What mistake do most Christian make that widens the road to damnation?

[decipher]

The road to salvation is narrow and few are those that find it. There are so many Christian churches and denominations in the USA which tells me that because the road to damnation is wide they must have a common error in their thinking. John 6: 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that yebelieve on him whom he hath sent. John 3:27 John answered, and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. John 1: 12-13 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the children of God, even (that is) to them that believe on his name; Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, not of the will of man, but of God. The mistake that most Christians make is that instead of giving God the glory for their salvation, they give it to themselves because it is they that made the decision to believe and trust in Jesus. 1 Cor 1: 29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

If people don't make the decision to believe then they are just sock puppets with no agency. God enables people to believe; he doesn't do it for them

 

[tourist]

How do you know what most Christians make that widens the road to damnation?

 

[Dino246]

Many Christians misinterpret this verse. Jesus Himself is the narrow road leading to life, while the broad road to destruction is every other belief system, including “non-religious”.

Sadly, the temptation to self-righteousness is common, and many Christians look at fellow believers through a veil of judgment, presuming only themselves to be on the narrow road.

 

[Jimbone]

If people don't make the decision to believe then they are just sock puppets with no agency. God enables people to believe; he doesn't do it for them

This is not true at all, and the same thing that is always made. This is a strawman and only serves in making yourself feel right. No one is making the argument you're tearing down here, who says we are just puppets or that God makes all the decisions for everyone? Only those with CDS (Calvin Derangement Syndrome) make this argument, and only make it to an invisible objector. I've never even seen anyone make the argument you people say they do and accuse them of nonstop. Never once. Where do you people see this argument being made outside of your own heads, and what is their names? Because I'm having trouble seeing who the heck you're talkin about anymore.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

This is not true at all, and the same thing that is always made. This is a strawman and only serves in making yourself feel right. No one is making the argument you're tearing down here, who says we are just puppets or that God makes all the decisions for everyone? Only those with CDS (Calvin Derangement Syndrome) make this argument, and only make it to an invisible objector. I've never even seen anyone make the argument you people say they do and accuse them of nonstop. Never once. Where do you people see this argument being made outside of your own heads, and what is their names? Because I'm having trouble seeing who the heck you're talkin about anymore.

the answer to your question is the post immediately prior to mine in which was said "The mistake that most Christians make is that instead of giving God the glory for their salvation, they give it to themselves because it is they that made the decision to believe and trust in Jesus. "

 

[Melach]

Many Christians misinterpret this verse. Jesus Himself is the narrow road leading to life, while the broad road to destruction is every other belief system, including “non-religious”.

Sadly, the temptation to self-righteousness is common, and many Christians look at fellow believers through a veil of judgment, presuming only themselves to be on the narrow road.

nah Jesus says the road is hard that leads to eternal life and many will seek to enter but are not able.

there are plenty of people who are believers in Jesus on their way to hell. plenty of unrighteous people in the pews with no life in them. just like judas, they were there for the ride but were never true believers

 

[lrs68]

I can think of 2 possibilities here.

1. Not forgiving others [like we're instructed to or we won't be forgiven]

2. Unrepented Sins [believing one can sin because Jesus died for all sins]


Looking at the 2nd possibility presents several issues such as (license to sin) and the doctrine Jesus only died for the chosen [but dying for all sins would have to mean all sins period as in every human being saved or never will be saved sins].

If I walk around and expect God to forgive me but I never forgive those who do me wrong then I am nowhere like God (we are to be imitators of God and do as He did).

If I sin today and don't repent then that is still a sin that God remembers because it hasn't been applied to the shed blood that takes place when I ask for forgiveness.

There's other issues that can be mentioned but these 2 seem to be the most debated about.

 

[studier]

This is a strawman

And this isn't?:

The mistake that most Christians make is that instead of giving God the glory for their salvation, they give it to themselves because it is they that made the decision to believe and trust in Jesus.

It's not even close to being correct. It's fallacious argumentation to the core and it doesn't require your CDS assertion - more fallacy - to see it.

 

[ResidentAlien]

The mistake that most Christians make is that instead of giving God the glory for their salvation, they give it to themselves because it is they that made the decision to believe and trust in Jesus.

I assume then you have personally interviewed "most" Christians throughout the world and base your conclusion on your findings?

 

[Dino246]

nah Jesus says the road is hard that leads to eternal life and many will seek to enter but are not able.

there are plenty of people who are believers in Jesus on their way to hell. plenty of unrighteous people in the pews with no life in them. just like judas, they were there for the ride but were never true believers

One cannot be a genuine Christian and at the same time “never a true believer”. Don’t think that by “Christian” I mean “churchgoer”.

The Christian life is hard… impossible, in fact, without God’s help; however, He is generous to those who seek Him.

 

[lrs68]

I assume then you have personally interviewed "most" Christians throughout the world and base your conclusion on your findings?

Not to be argumentative but most Christians can be defined by the few Doctrines Creeded by the Councils. So it might not be as difficult as it clearly appears it should be.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Not to be argumentative but most Christians can be defined by the few Doctrines Creeded by the Councils. So it might not be as difficult as it clearly appears it should be.

I'm not arguing either, but let me ask: Have you also interviewed most Christians in the world and concluded they are defined by their creeds?

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The road to salvation is narrow and few are those that find it. There are so many Christian churches and denominations in the USA which tells me that because the road to damnation is wide they must have a common error in their thinking.

The mistake that most Christians make is that instead of giving God the glory for their salvation, they give it to themselves because it is they that made the decision to believe and trust in Jesus. 1 Cor 1: 29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

uh no. The wide path is works of the flesh.

For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. Romans 8:13​

 

[lrs68]

I'm not arguing either, but let me ask: Have you also interviewed most Christians in the world and concluded they are defined by their creeds?

That is a probability that is impossible to achieve. But I can say that by observation through platforms such as this site, other sites, and the multitude of different outlets available to Christians to join and participate one can easily see and understand patterns. And knowing those patterns are consistent throughout the multiple realms of options because they allow [(worldwide participation)] it's not impossible to get many truths. And those truths declare beliefs. And beliefs can fall into category or doctrine. So even though you're not talking to everyone you are talking to enough from a worldwide viewpoint to understand the majority of beliefs that exist.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

If people don't make the decision to believe then they are just sock puppets with no agency. God enables people to believe; he doesn't do it for them

Don’t you know that believing what god said and obeying him is self glorification ?

 

[Magenta]

If people don't make the decision to believe then they are just sock puppets with no agency.

I think there is a wider range of possibility, much more subtlety and complexity than what you present, which is actually a logical fallacy. For instance, many enter into a process of self examination with or without a paid professional to assist them in discovering what it is they actually do believe, because it is not always evident, even as our beliefs shape our lives via attitudes and behaviours, and options we give ourselves. This also touches on whether or not man has a will that is free. Gosh. So many have decided not to believe what the Bible actually says on this topic and prefer to substitute instead things it does not say, and/or outright contradict and deny what is explicitly stated in order to cling to their man-exalting tradition and vain philosophy.

John 3 verse 6, Romans 8 verse 7, Galatians 5 verse 17, 2 Timothy 3 verse 13, Romans 3 verse 18 ~ Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. The mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. The flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are opposed to each other. Evil men and imposters go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. There is no fear of God before their eyes.

 

[studier]

Don’t you know that believing what god said and obeying him is self glorification ?

Crazy argument isn't it. It's just undeveloped reasoning and it's tragic to watch Christians partake of it, especially against other Christians.

 

[studier]

The Christian life is hard… impossible, in fact, without God’s help; however, He is generous to those who seek Him.

So refreshing to read pieces of truth like this.

 

[Magenta]

Crazy argument isn't it. It's just undeveloped reasoning and it's tragic to watch Christians partake of it, especially against other Christians.

Yes, it is crazy and sad how often people misrepresent what others believe. Dishonest, too.

Like the many saying the natural man has everything he needs to choose to believe what he can neither
receive nor comprehend. That everyone hears. When did they decide not to believe what Jesus said?