What is the proof Jesus is eternally begotten son?

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DeanM said:
Not doubting God just man and his desires. Tishendorf (sc) is far beyond questionable. As for Westcott and Hort their letters and other writings that came to light after their deaths are nothing short of heretical. Not to mention their ties to the RCC. No friend I dont doubt God just those who commit fraud for money. 🙂
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Thank you, as I see in Isaiah 7:1-9, were God states, if you doubt, do not believe God, then God is not or will not establish anyone that may say they believe God, and second-guess God, I see it is much harder to get established in the done work given us at least me, Along walk here on earth off a short pier daily, trying to be new, when God has done it all for us each to choose and be new, (Born new Born again.
Thanks you, for not doubting as evil loves to get into our psyche's and bring on second guessing over listening directly to God in God's Spirit and Truth, at least me. I now here from within
 
There isn't any biblical proof that Jesus is the eternally begotten son. Because he isn't. He was Yeshua originally and our name for him is from the Greek form made for his name, Iēsous (Ἰησοῦς). He was the Word with God, who is God, and he came in the incarnation that in Luke chapter one has the angel shown appearing to Mary who would be his mother saying of him "He shall be called the Son of God." So that is how the incarnation as a human, from the Word (Logos), is known. Being the Son does not mean God reproduces biologically.
 
FredVB said:
There isn't any biblical proof that Jesus is the eternally begotten son. Because he isn't. He was Yeshua originally and our name for him is from the Greek form made for his name, Iēsous (Ἰησοῦς). He was the Word with God, who is God, and he came in the incarnation that in Luke chapter one has the angel shown appearing to Mary who would be his mother saying of him "He shall be called the Son of God." So that is how the incarnation as a human, from the Word (Logos), is known. Being the Son does not mean God reproduces biologically.
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2 Corinthians 4:4
in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Colossians 1:15
who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Jesus Christ, Yashuah Ha'Masiach
For us the people all of us, To give us Love, God Father's love all the same. /What?
Accept, not reject, trust God to lead you into the eternity God freely gives all to not argue, accuse or abuse, even excuse anyone anymore, at least this I now see, thank you Daddy
God loves us all y'all. Otherwise Christ would not have gone to that cross and willingly die for us all
To give, freely new life in his resurrected life, a new life of Love and mercy for us all to automatically do now, not have to think it over, Love is written on our new Hearts given us by God in risen Son for us all
To me that is who God Father is, no matter what anyone else's interpretations are!
God has free will too. I say this, quit pissing God off from harming others without care, ask God personally and care for all, not a few as you choose accordingly: seeing, seen others works you see and judge them over it Luke 18:9-14. Forgive since you are forgiven by God through Son first, please see. God willing thank you
The Mercy, Reconciliation, forgiveness given is not an excuse to be God myself at least thanks for the reconciliation first Father. 2 Cor 5:16-20, now the risen Life to get given if not gotten it yet, given by Father, no other in truth. I trust you to do that to each person in your love and mercy for us all by Son, thank you. Not to be taken for granted, never meant for that to be, thanks I see and repented never harming anyone on purpose, as Father knows all truth not me
 
FredVB said:
There isn't any biblical proof that Jesus is the eternally begotten son. Because he isn't. He was Yeshua originally and our name for him is from the Greek form made for his name, Iēsous (Ἰησοῦς). He was the Word with God, who is God, and he came in the incarnation that in Luke chapter one has the angel shown appearing to Mary who would be his mother saying of him "He shall be called the Son of God." So that is how the incarnation as a human, from the Word (Logos), is known. Being the Son does not mean God reproduces biologically.
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John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

That be in the risen Christ now. Where the new life is offered for us all to choose to beleive God or not consciously so, thanks
 
FredVB said:
There isn't any biblical proof that Jesus is the eternally begotten son. Because he isn't. He was Yeshua originally and our name for him is from the Greek form made for his name, Iēsous (Ἰησοῦς). He was the Word with God, who is God, and he came in the incarnation that in Luke chapter one has the angel shown appearing to Mary who would be his mother saying of him "He shall be called the Son of God." So that is how the incarnation as a human, from the Word (Logos), is known. Being the Son does not mean God reproduces biologically.
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You sort of disagreed with your own objection,
You objected to Jesus being the son, but then said the son is the incarnate Word, which is eternal.
"Begotten" does not have to refer to physical procreation.

And criticism should be constructive, so perhaps the following could be suggested as a better question:

What is the Scriptural evidence that Jesus was God incarnate?
 
GWH said:
You sort of disagreed with your own objection,
You objected to Jesus being the son, but then said the son is the incarnate Word, which is eternal.
"Begotten" does not have to refer to physical procreation.

And criticism should be constructive, so perhaps the following could be suggested as a better question:

What is the Scriptural evidence that Jesus was God incarnate?
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Cool,
Scriptures supporting the concept of Jesus as God incarnate include
John 1:14, which states that the "Word became flesh," and Matthew 1:23, which foretells the birth of Jesus as "Immanuel," meaning "God with us". Other key passages are Philippians 2:6-7, which notes that Christ, though "in the form of God," took on the "likeness of men," and Colossians 1:15, which describes Jesus as the "image of the invisible God".
 
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Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. -- Philippians 2:5-8 ESV
 
In the beginning was God. The Word was with God and was God. Paraphrase. I sometimes wonder what bible some use and if they use them.
 
One guy says Jesus is all three and there is no trinity and another says Jesus wasnt God until His physical birth. This site would not be good for a new believer.
 
DeanM said:
One guy says Jesus is all three and there is no trinity and another says Jesus wasnt God until His physical birth. This site would not be good for a new believer.
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Those who are born again have a new spirit and the indwelling Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit's work to lead us into all truth. My advice to the confused is to study the Word for themselves, seeking the help of the Holy Spirit. We should be doing that anyway. We all need the truth that sets us free.
 
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Gideon300 said:
Those who are born again have a new spirit and the indwelling Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit's work to lead us into all truth. My advice to the confused is to study the Word for themselves, seeking the help of the Holy Spirit. We should be doing that anyway. We all need the truth that sets us free.
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Agreed. But with the wacky theories here and on the internet in general I would add that new or intetested folks get grounded before googling anything.
 
DeanM said:
Agreed. But with the wacky theories here and on the internet in general I would add that new or intetested folks get grounded before googling anything.
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I agree, which is why I offer our website as a resource or commentary regarding GW <truthseekersfellowship.com>
 
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