What is the point in being a prophet?

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I don't need to watch it.
Well, don't say you weren't given the chance to know. That's all. I personally find it quite foolish to dismiss the weight of Scripture based upon my own feelings and thoughts. That sermon carries the weight of Scripture.
 

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Well, don't say you weren't given the chance to know. That's all. I personally find it quite foolish to dismiss the weight of Scripture based upon my own feelings and thoughts. That sermon carries the weight of Scripture.
I've know for a long time you're simply trying to make a name for yourself; and are clearly trying to get a following. Unfortunately for you, I'm not in the market for a guru, and apparently neither are most of the people in this chat. If I ever met you in person I might like you. You must have a sense of humor; I mean, a guy who dresses up in a shepherd's outfit and parades down NYC streets with a sign has to have a sense of humor.
 

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I've know for a long time you're simply trying to make a name for yourself; and are clearly trying to get a following. Unfortunately for you, I'm not in the market for a guru, and apparently neither are most of the people in this chat. If I ever met you in person I might like you. You must have a sense of humor; I mean, a guy who dresses up in a shepherd's outfit and parades down NYC streets with a sign has to have a sense of humor.

It's not really a sense of humor. i haven't really seen anything funny in his posts. He's exhibiting delusions of grandeur.

A delusion is a false belief held by a person. It contradicts reality or what is commonly considered true. The strength of a delusion is based on how much the person believes it.

Specifically, a delusion of grandeur is a person’s belief that they are someone other than who they are, such as a supernatural figure or a celebrity. A delusion of grandeur may also be a belief that they have special abilities, possessions, or powers.

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Any delusion has four main characteristics:
  1. The person having the belief believes it to be true, even when the existing norm and other people know it to be untrue.
  2. The person having the delusion will not listen to any other viewpoints about the belief and will not consider change when evidence challenges the delusion.
  3. The content of the delusion is impossible or implausible.
  4. The delusion impacts the person’s daily life.
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Delusions of grandeur can take many forms, such as beliefs of: ....

Religious grandeur
A person with a religious-themed delusion of grandeur may believe that they are a religious leader.

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We can pray for him that he gets the psychiatric help he needs.


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I've spent a great deal of my adult life ministering to the developmentally disabled, physically disabled, poor, marginalized, homeless, addicts, atheists, orphans, suicidal and psychotic patients, and prisoners. I'm very well-versed and educated in the Bible. Do you think the weight of all my knowledge or the compassion of our Lord Jesus Christ is more helpful to those people?
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That's how you want us to treat you since you do not qualify as a genuine prophet.

I have had lots of dreams that came true.
And, I am no prophet.
Dreams from God.
Dreams about places that did not exist at the time I was shown, but found them existing at a later date..
That takes God to know what will be...

Before I entered into Christianity I had contact with a psychic. One whom I did not seek out.
But, I was introduced to by another person..
There is a reason why I perceive you like I do. You do the same things.

And, you still fail to comprehend what the Bible says of the purpose of a NT prophet. I have shown you Scripture.

You are a psychic, sir. Which may be from God. But, a prophet you are not.

If you were a prophet? You would hold the next highest position of authority in the Church hierarchy, one just below apostle.
Where are the apostles today? Are we still adding Scripture to the Bible? Apostles did that.


So, Christ himself gave the 1)apostles, the 2)prophets, the 3)evangelists, the 4)pastors and teachers."

Eph 4:11​
Wishing you peace ...........................
 

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There were only 12 Apostles of the Lamb. Together, they were a irrefutable witness of the baptism, ministry, death, and ascension of Jesus Christ.

“Therefore, of these men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, 22 beginning from the baptism of John to that day when He was taken up from us, one of these must become a witness with us of His resurrection.”

“You, O Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which of these two You have chosen 25 to take part in this ministry and apostleship..."

It should be noted: another apostle listed in scripture did not meet these requirements. Therefore, he could not be numbered among the 12. No matter his contribution to the scriptural testimony (God does not esteem men like men esteem themselves) he could not have given eye-witness testimony of the ministry, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus.

Of course I'm talking about Barnabas.

"But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard this, they tore their clothes and ran in among the multitude, crying out..."

Paul was another apostle who was not among the 12 Apostles of the Lamb. Paul even wrote as much:

In Acts 6 this is recorded: "Then the twelve summoned the multitude of the disciples and said, “It is not desirable that we should leave the word of God and serve tables."

The twelve now included Matthias.

Then Paul wrote this: "For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve..."

Paul did not number himself among the twelve. He, like Barnabas, Timothy, Silvanus, were other apostles mentioned in the Bible, not Apostles of the Lamb as seen in Revelation:

"Now the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb."

Of course the apostolic gift is foundational as is the prophetic gift. God intended that those gifts work together. Why? Because it is given to the prophets to hear God directly (vital to the life of a believer) and to teach others to hear God. And it is given to the apostles to know and establish the administration and organization of the church and to correct any weakness thereof. God did not remove the need for people skilled with these gifts. Indeed, as the world rushes to the end, knowing what God is doing and how He is doing it will become more and more important to those who are spiritual.

If you were a prophet? You would hold the next highest position of authority in the Church hierarchy, one just below apostle.
Where are the apostles today? Are we still adding Scripture to the Bible? Apostles did that.
That’s not how it works. 1/2 of the Apostles of the Lamb wrote nothing of the NT.

Last note: although demonstrations of power may be necessary, the life of an apostle will primarily be identified as one who builds up the Body of Christ, loves and supports the saints, and devotion to the Lord in all things. Humility and reverence for the Lord will follow him. Many would testify of his kindness and grace.

However, like the Lord, apostles may often create conflict: primarily strife between the spiritually minded and the worldly. A faithful apostle will be lied about, ridiculed, and slandered. Assured of his place in Christ, he will likely remain silent as others disparage him.
 

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Its almost like dealing with Woke people who insist upon others addressing them by the gender of their choice.

Yes, that is also a psychiatric disorder. It's just shameful that the American Psychiatric Association (APA) is allowing it to be used to corrupt children, instead of treating it like they're suppose to.


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I've know for a long time you're simply trying to make a name for yourself; and are clearly trying to get a following. Unfortunately for you, I'm not in the market for a guru, and apparently neither are most of the people in this chat. If I ever met you in person I might like you. You must have a sense of humor; I mean, a guy who dresses up in a shepherd's outfit and parades down NYC streets with a sign has to have a sense of humor.
LOL! Now you get it!

I let my friend read some of these comments and she was taken aback by how people perceived me on here. I told her, "I wish I could explain to them I have a sense of humor."

As for a following, NO. Don't follow me. I'll let you down. Follow Jesus, like a disciple. MATTHEW 23:10. I just want people to be informed what His plan is for this country and prepare accordingly.
 

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LOL! Now you get it!

I let my friend read some of these comments and she was taken aback by how people perceived me on here. I told her, "I wish I could explain to them I have a sense of humor."

As for a following, NO. Don't follow me. I'll let you down. Follow Jesus, like a disciple. MATTHEW 23:10. I just want people to be informed what His plan is for this country and prepare accordingly.

You've showed enough of your personality here to show that you don't really have a good sense of humor though. And I feel bad for your friend if she's following you around like you're a prophet of God. That's lack of discernment right there.


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It's not really a sense of humor. i haven't really seen anything funny in his posts. He's exhibiting delusions of grandeur.

A delusion is a false belief held by a person. It contradicts reality or what is commonly considered true. The strength of a delusion is based on how much the person believes it.

Specifically, a delusion of grandeur is a person’s belief that they are someone other than who they are, such as a supernatural figure or a celebrity. A delusion of grandeur may also be a belief that they have special abilities, possessions, or powers.

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Any delusion has four main characteristics:
  1. The person having the belief believes it to be true, even when the existing norm and other people know it to be untrue.
  2. The person having the delusion will not listen to any other viewpoints about the belief and will not consider change when evidence challenges the delusion.
  3. The content of the delusion is impossible or implausible.
  4. The delusion impacts the person’s daily life.
....

Delusions of grandeur can take many forms, such as beliefs of: ....

Religious grandeur
A person with a religious-themed delusion of grandeur may believe that they are a religious leader.

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We can pray for him that he gets the psychiatric help he needs.


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Yes, I'm well aware of what delusions of grandeur are. I did tell you I was a mental health practitioner.

Glad you're still here though. You must find me very interesting to stay and indulge in my delusions.

You want to know what I never did as an MH practitioner? Try to reason with insane or psychotic people.
 
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You've showed enough of your personality here to show that you don't really have a good sense of humor though. And I feel bad for your friend if she's following you around like you're a prophet of God. That's lack of discernment right there.
Lol! No one is following me around like a prophet of God.

Hosea 9:7 "The days of punishment are coming; the days of reckoning are at hand. Let Israel know this. Because your sins are so many and your hostility so great, the prophet is considered a fool, the inspired person a maniac."

I'm here to be rejected - until He determines otherwise.
 

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Lol! No one is following me around like a prophet of God.

Hosea 9:7 "The days of punishment are coming; the days of reckoning are at hand. Let Israel know this. Because your sins are so many and your hostility so great, the prophet is considered a fool, the inspired person a maniac."

I'm here to be rejected - until He determines otherwise.

One does not need to be a prophet to know our nation has been heading in a wrong direction and right into the hands of God's discipline. We are not rejecting what you said there. We are simply rejecting what you claim to be.
 

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Lol! No one is following me around like a prophet of God.

Hosea 9:7 "The days of punishment are coming; the days of reckoning are at hand. Let Israel know this. Because your sins are so many and your hostility so great, the prophet is considered a fool, the inspired person a maniac."

I'm here to be rejected - until He determines otherwise.

*Shrug* Except you're not a prophet. So nothing special is going to happen to you and none of us are going to be punished as you're hoping.


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One does not need to be a prophet to know our nation has been heading in a wrong direction and right into the hands of God's discipline. We are not rejecting what you said there. We are simply rejecting what you claim to be.

One of the globalists' work is to try to convince people of the US to think they are the worst people in the entire world an shame us. Why? Because that is the only way to break the spirit of the people. These are social warfare tactics and should be recognized in order to resist believing it.

One of the clearest indication of this is that NONE of the globalists here are moving out of the US. No, they want to hand control of this nation over to the antichrist who will reward them, so that they can stay here and enjoy such rewards - money and power (the antichrist will give them some governing power over the US where they answer only to the antichrist, not the will of the people like right now).

So maybe there will be some actual terrorizing and wrecking some areas, but I don't believe we'll be entirely destroyed like this false prophet and so many other fakes claim. I really do think the globalists in our government want to just hand this nation over the the antichrist for him to take control. It can actually be quite anti-climatic.


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Yes, I'm well aware of what delusions of grandeur are. I did tell you I was a mental health practitioner.

Glad you're still here though. You must find me very interesting to stay and indulge in my delusions.

You want to know what I never did as an MH practitioner? Try to reason with insane or psychotic people.

Oh right. Yes. SURE you were a mental health practitioner. Uh huh... :sneaky: :) :giggle: :LOL: :ROFL:


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Lol! No one is following me around like a prophet of God.

Hosea 9:7 "The days of punishment are coming; the days of reckoning are at hand. Let Israel know this. Because your sins are so many and your hostility so great, the prophet is considered a fool, the inspired person a maniac."

I'm here to be rejected - until He determines otherwise.
Hosea was speaking about the OT type prophet facing the Jewish people.
Jews that heard prophets did not themselves have the indwelling Holy Spirit.
In the Church, where believers are a new creation in Christ, it's now different.


But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening,
encouraging and comfort. " 1 Corinthians 14:3​
Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said.
And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop.
For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged.
The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets. 1 Corinthians 14:29-32​


Being a prophet was not about standing before the church and telling them about some dream he had.
Prophets predicted the future before the people while awake in the power of the Spirit.
 
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Are you implying that I'm lying?

This was my NPI profile when I was active: JON CHRISTIAN MINOR MHP, NPI 1063072098 - Counselor in Mount Vernon, IL (npiprofile.com)

Yes, my last name is Minor. Like Minor Prophet. Just another insignificant coincidence to you.
And Elizabeth Warren is a Cherokee and Kamala Harris worked at McDonald's.

Your "credentials" are not impressive. Did you get it by mail order or online?

Be honest, remember you are a minor prophet.
 
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And Elizabeth Warren is a Cherokee and Kamala Harris worked at McDonald's.

Your "credentials" are not impressive. Did you get it by mail order or online?

Be honest, remember you are a minor prophet.
Minor Prophets is actually capitalized. And so would my last name be capitalized.

It's strange that you would doubt my credentials when I gave you my NPI number and name (you think I hacked the federal government's Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services NPI reporting system just to trick you?) or that you would equate me with two liberal politicians who are career liars.
 

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I've know for a long time you're simply trying to make a name for yourself; and are clearly trying to get a following. Unfortunately for you, I'm not in the market for a guru, and apparently neither are most of the people in this chat. If I ever met you in person I might like you. You must have a sense of humor; I mean, a guy who dresses up in a shepherd's outfit and parades down NYC streets with a sign has to have a sense of humor.


"20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;

21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some."
 
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