What Is Happening in Canada??

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That is why America needs Socialized health care, you pay for it with your taxes, ( a percentage based on income) but every one gets treated equally regardless of income and you don't have to pay out of pocket when you need to use it.
Worst idea ever. The government is always the least efficient of all of the options. Most people don't want their healthcare run like the DMV.
 
There's a huge divide between what people in one nation thinks something means verses the others. It's sort of like translating English in Merica about ending the war in Ukraine into Russian. In Merica it means a cease fire with security assurances but in Russian it means Merica and Ukraine are pestering the Kremlin and trying to get better terms for their surrender.

Agreed.
This is the game of the broken telephone throughout cultures and time.
A few days ago a nurse was asking about my mother's faith and religion and i said "We're East Orthodox". And she said, "Oh you're Jewish?". I said "No - we're Christians!".
And that's how the world goes round.
 
Agreed.
This is the game of the broken telephone throughout cultures and time.
A few days ago a nurse was asking about my mother's faith and religion and i said "We're East Orthodox". And she said, "Oh you're Jewish?". I said "No - we're Christians!".
And that's how the world goes round.

I wish my Russian was better so I could listen to the speech Putin gave yesterday. Seems Putin has the impression that Trumps calling him over and over trying his best to surrender and get the US off the hook.
 
I wish my Russian was better so I could listen to the speech Putin gave yesterday. Seems Putin has the impression that Trumps calling him over and over trying his best to surrender and get the US off the hook.

Even if you and i understood Russian, it's pointless to hear what Putin says anyway.
To me he lost all legitimacy when he said that "people dying in Ukraine are actors" when the war started. That's when i knew he had lost his mind.
 
Even if you and i understood Russian, it's pointless to hear what Putin says anyway.
To me he lost all legitimacy when he said that "people dying in Ukraine are actors" when the war started. That's when i knew he had lost his mind.

Looks like the peace talks are at a stand still and Russia's saying Ukraine tried to take out Putin last night but they shot down the drones. Z. denies it all saying it never happened but Trump backed Putin at first then said he was checking into it to see if it happened. Looks like Putin's not going to settle for just a little piece of Ukraine unless it includes Warsaw and Yugoslavia gets glued back together.
 
Looks like the peace talks are at a stand still and Russia's saying Ukraine tried to take out Putin last night but they shot down the drones. Z. denies it all saying it never happened but Trump backed Putin at first then said he was checking into it to see if it happened. Looks like Putin's not going to settle for just a little piece of Ukraine unless it includes Warsaw and Yugoslavia gets glued back together.

The Yugoslavia comment made me laugh and that's exactly his mentality.
But i don't know if he remembers Tito who was a wildcard himself! :ROFL:
 
The Yugoslavia comment made me laugh and that's exactly his mentality.
But i don't know if he remembers Tito who was a wildcard himself! :ROFL:

Putin thinks while he was all tied up with Georgia and Chechnya the West sneaked the blue helmet peacekeepers in there and claimed it for themselves.
 
I'm not being rude.... I'm correcting you.... if you don't like it.... too bad. You say "...Americans coming to Canada for healtcare but NEVER the other way around unless the individual had plenty of $ to toss."

that implies Americans are coming to Canada to either get free healthcare or cheaper healthcare and that's not true... And me telling you it's not true.... and pointing that out is not being rude of arrogant... it's telling the truth... you get offended by truth... that's your problem.


So,

Maybe you should stop lying

is just you practicing your faith? You misunderstood what I wrote and I pointed out that I never said Americans were getting free healthcare. In fact, I never actually even said Americans were coming to Canada. I said I HEARD that has happened. What I don't like is your arrogant attitude. I will be corrected when I see where I was wrong as perhaps some here have found, but in this case, it is you who is wrong.

I said heard. I did not say what you continue to go on about. I never even used the word free.

I have heard of Americans coming to Canada for healtcare but NEVER the other way around unless the individual had plenty of $ to toss.

If there is something worse that refusing to admit you were wrong, it is doubling down and saying I am lying and you are correcting me. I don't know who you are, you are basically new here, but I it seems you swing wide and low and no matter how much a person tries to point out to you they did not say what you are saying, you just continue and apparently do not have the common sense to see that so you just continue because, after all, you cannot be wrong.

I can only think of one personality type that acts that way. Call me a liar again and we'll see about it. OK Ron?
 
So,



is just you practicing your faith? You misunderstood what I wrote and I pointed out that I never said Americans were getting free healthcare. In fact, I never actually even said Americans were coming to Canada. I said I HEARD that has happened. What I don't like is your arrogant attitude. I will be corrected when I see where I was wrong as perhaps some here have found, but in this case, it is you who is wrong.

I said heard. I did not say what you continue to go on about. I never even used the word free.



If there is something worse that refusing to admit you were wrong, it is doubling down and saying I am lying and you are correcting me. I don't know who you are, you are basically new here, but I it seems you swing wide and low and no matter how much a person tries to point out to you they did not say what you are saying, you just continue and apparently do not have the common sense to see that so you just continue because, after all, you cannot be wrong.

I can only think of one personality type that acts that way. Call me a liar again and we'll see about it. OK Ron?
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Yes.... when you said "I have heard of Americans coming to Canada for healtcare but NEVER the other way around...." I did not believe you then and I still don't believe you now.
And the only reason to say Americans would come to Canada for healthcare and "NEVER the other way around unless the individual had plenty of $ to toss" would be because we have free socialized healthcare.
 
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Yes.... when you said "I have heard of Americans coming to Canada for healtcare but NEVER the other way around...." I did not believe you then and I still don't believe you now.
And the only reason to say Americans would come to Canada for healthcare and "NEVER the other way around unless the individual had plenty of $ to toss" would be because we have free socialized healthcare.
In short: I'm calling you a liar, again. OK Pine? So, what are we supposed to see about it?
 
I'm not being rude.... I'm correcting you.... if you don't like it.... too bad. You say "...Americans coming to Canada for healtcare but NEVER the other way around unless the individual had plenty of $ to toss."

that implies Americans are coming to Canada to either get free healthcare or cheaper healthcare and that's not true... And me telling you it's not true.... and pointing that out is not being rude of arrogant... it's telling the truth... you get offended by truth... that's your problem.

I tend to think she has not received health care in Canada for number of years so there is that.


I am not going to read over every post but Canadians do go to the USA for treatment if they have the insurance/money and receive approval.
Both systems have major problems and arguing and using the outliers to make a point is not productive. imo.
 
I tend to think she has not received health care in Canada for number of years so there is that.


I am not going to read over every post but Canadians do go to the USA for treatment if they have the insurance/money and receive approval.
Both systems have major problems and arguing and using the outliers to make a point is not productive. imo.

So let's see what you are doing here. First off, we both know you go out of your way to either 'laugh' or 'disagree' with posts I make, not because you actually disagree necessairly, but because we are in disagreement with regards to our political views. So, as all good democrats do, you confuse personal disagreement with the validity of someone's post, me in this case but you have done it many times in the news forum to others, and create emotional responses with whatever is available for you to use. You do this to me and have certainly done it to anyone who calls you out on your political discharges.

Secondly, in what world do you suppose you are privy to what kind of healthcare I do or do not have? Well, the truth is, I have made that information public in my posts. Therefore, and not surprisingly, you do not actually read my posts, preferring instead to put your emoticons on what I write. Proving, that what I said regarding emotional responses coming from you, and that you often reference because I do not agree with your left wing stance, are your best effort at trying to influence others.

Thirdly, the sad exchange between myself and the person who most likely has some kind of internal conflict in progress, was really none of your business.

Contrary to popular belief, healthcare in Canada is not, I repeat not, treating everyone equally. Laughing at people's posts that are actually no concern of yours, or laughing when someone points out your political bias and so on, reflects, in my opinion, an unhealthy state of mind. You appear to be someone who will not dialogue but have no problem mocking.

You are well known in this forum for your negative behavior towards those who are right of your leftist bias.

Your final comment, is your agreement with Ron, that I am a liar. How do you suppose that plays out in the long run? You seem to be of little substance and basically just doing things in the forum that almost amount to trolling.
 
So let's see what you are doing here. First off, we both know you go out of your way to either 'laugh' or 'disagree' with posts I make, not because you actually disagree necessairly, but because we are in disagreement with regards to our political views. So, as all good democrats do, you confuse personal disagreement with the validity of someone's post, me in this case but you have done it many times in the news forum to others, and create emotional responses with whatever is available for you to use. You do this to me and have certainly done it to anyone who calls you out on your political discharges.

Secondly, in what world do you suppose you are privy to what kind of healthcare I do or do not have? Well, the truth is, I have made that information public in my posts. Therefore, and not surprisingly, you do not actually read my posts, preferring instead to put your emoticons on what I write. Proving, that what I said regarding emotional responses coming from you, and that you often reference because I do not agree with your left wing stance, are your best effort at trying to influence others.

Thirdly, the sad exchange between myself and the person who most likely has some kind of internal conflict in progress, was really none of your business.

Contrary to popular belief, healthcare in Canada is not, I repeat not, treating everyone equally. Laughing at people's posts that are actually no concern of yours, or laughing when someone points out your political bias and so on, reflects, in my opinion, an unhealthy state of mind. You appear to be someone who will not dialogue but have no problem mocking.

You are well known in this forum for your negative behavior towards those who are right of your leftist bias.

Your final comment, is your agreement with Ron, that I am a liar. How do you suppose that plays out in the long run? You seem to be of little substance and basically just doing things in the forum that almost amount to trolling.

That you assume I am on the left negates all else you have to say.
I have freedom to react to posts as I wish.
 
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Yes.... when you said "I have heard of Americans coming to Canada for healtcare but NEVER the other way around...." I did not believe you then and I still don't believe you now.
And the only reason to say Americans would come to Canada for healthcare and "NEVER the other way around unless the individual had plenty of $ to toss" would be because we have free socialized healthcare.

Agree ...a set up for plausible deniability.

Canadians have been seeking treatment across the border since the early 1990' for certain, there are more advanced treatments in the USA because the system is funded differently.

There was a time when one could get approval from the provincial healthcare system for emergency healthcare treatment in the USA but this has proved to costly and I do not think it happens any longer.
 
That you assume I am on the left negates all else you have to say.
I have freedom to react to posts as I wish.

No one is assuming. You have voiced it many times. You have freedom to post whatever, possibly be reported if it goes too far or, the wiser choice, be respondent instead of avoidant.

But you be you. :rolleyes:
 
So you're equating the dumping of one mentally confused American patient who shows up at an ER and gets redirected to an outreach center with 500 thousand Canadian patients, (that's equivalent to 4.2 million American patients) leaving emergency rooms before seeing a doctor because the ERs are over-crowded with wait times exceeding 24 hrs?

You're equating a mentally confused patient that shows up to an ER and gets redirected to an outreach centre with a patient having a heart attack that shows up to an ER and is forced to wait over eight hours in pain before he drops dead on the spot?

One of the side effects of socialism is the distortion of common sense.
No what I am saying is, that even though the Canadian Health Care system has it's flaws, it still far better than the American System.
 
Worst idea ever. The government is always the least efficient of all of the options. Most people don't want their healthcare run like the DMV.
Than you need to stop voting Democrat or Republican and find a different party that you would support.

https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

https://aascu.org/wp-content/uploads/documents/US-Political-Parties-Organizations.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States
 
No what I am saying is, that even though the Canadian Health Care system has it's flaws, it still far better than the American System.


Not according to my family. Lots of history with bad Canadian healthcare. Sitting in emergence for 12+ hrs. Can't get a specialist or primary care doctor for years. This is across the country.