What is considered false doctrine?

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Being overweight comes down to simply eating too much of something, whether it be too much sugar or too much fat. Eating too much is gluttony. It’s not the volume of all the food you eat. Just as someone that drinks 24 beers a day vs one who drinks a bottle of vodka. One drinks more in volume but both intake the same amount of alcohol.

No it doesn't. that's the simplistic view. What you eat can have a big effect on weight gain or loss. If you eat a lot of typical American food then the body becomes starved for nutrients and sends signals to eat. Viscious cycle.
 
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1 Timothy 4:1,2 - Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron

These people certainly where born again and then fell away

2 Peter 2:20 - For if after they have escaped the pollution of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

These people certainly where born again and then fell away

Whatever ya do, don't let what God says in His Word get in the way of what you believe :rolleyes:





Anyone who chooses to turn away from the Lord to go engage in sinful behavior is an anti-christ.

They become an anti-christ right when they decide to turn away





It's all over our society as they present being gay or some other sexual perversion as a legitimate lifestyle choice

It's in the schools, on social media, in movies and TV, in music, even in many churches that falsely claim to be Christian




I see so you are here to advocate for the perverts, got it.
I’m an advocate for everyone turning to Christ to be saved. And I definitely get tired of seeing it which is why I don’t watch tv and very selective on what social media I use. But your child is your responsibility until he or she is an adult. My opinion is children should either be homeschooled or attend a Christian school. They should not have social media and the music and tv they watch should be monitored. Point is if you are parenting your children as you should then they won’t be exposed to it. The reason we have all the gay stuff going on has a lot to do with parents not doing their jobs.
 
No it doesn't. that's the simplistic view. What you eat can have a big effect on weight gain or loss. If you eat a lot of typical American food then the body becomes starved for nutrients and sends signals to eat. Viscious cycle.
Exactly. If you eat too much OF THE WRONG THING then it causes weight gain. If you eat a normal amount of the correct food(aka the food that God provides, not food that humans try to make better)then weight gain does not occur.
 
I’m an advocate for everyone turning to Christ to be saved.

I am as well, but sadly most will not and some that do will turn away and in the end go to hell.




But your child is your responsibility until he or she is an adult.

Up to a point.

That does not give the gay people and those supporting the gay people the right to recruit children.

Christians should be against that.


The reason we have all the gay stuff going on has a lot to do with parents not doing their jobs.

Yeah, lots of folks are scared to speak out against the recruitment activities of the perverts. Sad.

That was a surprising thing about Trump that he has not cooperated with the gay agenda. That was a plus.
 
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@DallasMan, completely agree. OSAS blurs the line between a real Christian and a non-Christian. They cannot consistently distinguish the two, because their system forces them to deny the possibility of a believer departing. So every time someone does, they just shove them into the “never saved” category—even if that person had lived faithfully to the Lord, been walking in the light for decades. OSAS claims to offer security, but in reality it erases any clear distinction between a true believer and someone who only appeared to be one. That’s why the doctrine destroys its own credibility. It leaves you with no way to: Tell who is genuinely saved, take New Testament warnings about apostasy seriously. It’s a doctrine that promises certainty but cannot deliver it. If the truly elect cannot fall away, but if they do they are considered to be “never the elect”, then when would anyone know for certain that they are, because the whole time they and everyone else believed and thought they were the elect they were not.
 
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I am as well, but sadly most will not and some that do will turn away and in the end go to hell.






Up to a point.

That does not give the gay people and those supporting the gay people the right to recruit children.

Christians should be against that.




Yeah, lots of folks are scared to speak out against the recruitment activities of the perverts. Sad.

That was a surprising thing about Trump that he has not cooperated with the gay agenda. That was a plus.
Maybe it because I don’t watch tv or maybe it only happens in big cities. Am I against the actions of gay people, definitely. But I still have to put the responsibility on the parent. They should not have their children at a gay pride march. I think we as a society have gotten lazy and distracted with politics and social media that we let an iPhone and government raise our children instead of us. That is setting them up for failure and a likelihood to reject God.
 
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1 Timothy 4:1,2 - Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron

These people certainly where born again and then fell away
It does not say that those who departed were born again. You read it in.
 
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Reckon if a child turns gay God is going to send the parents to hell for the sins of their children? :eek:

It's odd that you keep advocating for the gay people.

Did you come out of the closet yet, or is that still in the planning stages? :ROFL:
 
It does not say that those who departed were born again. You read it in.

What part of "some shall depart from the faith" were you have problems understanding???


Oh, you think you can tell who is genuinely saved?

Argue with Jesus about that.

He said we would know them by their fruit.

Did you not know Jesus said that, or Do you just claim He's a liar because Jesus isn't a calvinist?
 
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Reckon if a child turns gay God is going to send the parents to hell for the sins of their children? :eek:

It's odd that you keep advocating for the gay people.

Did you come out of the closet yet, or is that still in the planning stages? :ROFL:
I suppose it’s possible deuteronomy 6:7. It’s our responsibility as parents

And how old are you that you still entertain yourself with gay jokes?

I believe that we should love all of our neighbors whether they are gay, murderers, gluttons, thieves, lovers, or meth addicts. You should too if your faith is in Jesus. He didn’t say we could pick out certain groups to hate. He didn’t say that that if we followed Him we would be better than others.
 
And how old are you that you still entertain yourself with gay jokes?

None to worry, they only offend the gay peoples.

Is this why you are offended?

The Lord has a sense of humor. God's laughing at sinners...

Psalm 37:13
the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he sees that his day is coming

Psalm 2:4
He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Proverbs 1:22-33
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.




I suppose it’s possible deuteronomy 6:7. It’s our responsibility as parents

Ya gotta get out of the old covenant.

We are under the New Covenant now and no God is not sending parents to hell if their kids become sinners.
 
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None to worry, they only offend the gay peoples.

Is this why you are offended?

The Lord has a sense of humor. God's laughing at sinners...

Psalm 37:13
the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he sees that his day is coming

Psalm 2:4
He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Proverbs 1:22-33
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.






Ya gotta get out of the old covenant.

We are under the New Covenant now and no God is not sending parents to hell if their kids become sinners.
I try to not offend the people I love. You may want to give it a try and possibly try not to be self righteousness in thinking that you are better than a gay person.

And as I said if you expose your children to sin then you are responsible for their actions that come from that exposure. Once they’re adults then they then become responsible for their own actions.

And I can see that you are not mature enough to have a civil discussion so have a blessed day.
 
I try to not offend the people I love. You may want to give it a try and possibly try not to be self righteousness in thinking that you are better than a gay person.

Wow so once a person repents of their sin and becomes a born again believer abiding in Christ, they are still just a dirty ol ungodly satan serving sinner like the gay people?

You really need to study the new birth and find out what it's all about.


And as I said if you expose your children

Apparently you never had children because even if parents do all they can to shield their children from sin, they will still hear all about sin.

You must think parents should lock their child in the basement of their house and forbid all contact with the outside world. That's not only unrealistic, it's also criminal.



And I can see that you are not mature enough to have a civil discussion so have a blessed day.

I'm being civil.

I ain't said nothing about you momma or anything laughing.gif

Sorry, but I'm not going to agree with the point you made as they have no value and aren't biblical.

Hope you have a blessed day as well.
 
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Doesn't prove they were never born again.

Perhaps you would like to spin the wheel again?
Perhaps you should read the verse much more carefully. Here it is again...

ESV
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.

NASB
They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be evident that they all are not of us.

NIV
They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.

How much more clear do you need it?
 
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If someone wants to march in the street then that’s their right depending on the country they live in. If it’s a group of people following a false god then that’s on them. We can only share the gospel and pray for them. Them marching is no different than any other group of sinners marching. God loves them all no matter how much He hates their actions.
I don't disagree, but it appears that you missed the point. My statement is a response to your question, "why are so many Christians hung up on the gay people". The squeaky wheel gets the oil.

If people bent on adhering to other sins were making such a big deal about their sin being acceptable to God, Christians would be louder in addressing it.
 
False doctrine is man made doctrines that directly Goes against The Word of God( The Bible) false doctrines are usually inspired by traditions of men or mans interpretation of The Bible in which can only be Interpreted by The Holy Soirit