Have you received the Holy Ghost/Spirit SINCE you believed?
Have you received the Holy Ghost/Spirit SINCE you believed?
Have you received the Holy Ghost/Spirit SINCE you believed?
Have you received the Holy Ghost/Spirit SINCE you believed?
The question reveals something in and of itself.it reveals you haven't paid attention to the context.![]()
The account has no bearing on what the actual question reveals.Put the context around this quote first.
Who is being asked this question?
What is the setting?
What is the subject?
What is the occasion for speaking?
What does the question actually reveal in and of itself?The baptism in the Spirit is a blessing for sure. Every Christian needs the Spirit to pray for them. That's the power of God with dynamite. The holy spirit intercedes for the individual.
This question was limited to a very specific situation. It is not for general application. So we need to keep the context in mind.Have you received the Holy Ghost/Spirit SINCE you believed?
What does the question actually reveal in and of itself?
Have you received the Holy Ghost/Spirit SINCE you believed?
We need to distinguish between (a) the gift of the Spirit, (b) the indwelling Spirit, and (c) the filling of the Spirit. These are all different. The gift of the Spirit is given only to those who repent and believe.being filled with the Spirit isn't prerequisite to being saved through faith.
Does the Spirit not indwell a believer after receiving the gift of the Spirit (following repentance and belief)?We need to distinguish between (a) the gift of the Spirit, (b) the indwelling Spirit, and (c) the filling of
the Spirit. These are all different. The gift of the Spirit is given only to those who repent and believe.
No so. The truth is revealed in the Samaritan conversion account as well.This question was limited to a very specific situation. It is not for general application. So we need to keep the context in mind.
being filled with the Spirit isn't prerequisite to being saved through faith.[/QUOTE
"But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, IF SO be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his." Rom 8:9
That is a popular belief. However, Paul asked that question. The question makes a clear distinction. And the account actually confirms that distinction as well.They are one and the same.
If you have "believed" then you have "received."
Most fail to see the obvious. Paul presented the question, "Have you received the Holy Ghost SINCE you believed? to 12 individuals he thought were believers. As such, Paul's question reveals what he understood; believers don't always receive the indwelling of the Holy Ghost at the moment they believe.It reveals the laziness of UPCI preaching.
Context.
"Paul... came to Ephesus. There he found some disciples and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you became believers?”
“No,” they answered, “we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.”
“Into what, then, were you baptized?” Paul asked.
“The baptism of John,” they replied.
These men Paul has encountered are clearly disciples of John the Baptist.
Paul explained: “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the One coming after him, that is, in Jesus.”
By the looks of things, they were early disciples of John who probably lived in Ephesus, and went back home before the events of the Gospels unfolded: they were proto-Christians ripe for harvest.
On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.
Now these men have become proper disciples- These are actually the verses you would want to point out if you wanted to demonstrate that being a believer does not automatically mean you have received the Holy Ghost... along with acts 8:16.
And when Paul laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied. There were about twelve men in all.
"But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, IF SO be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his." Rom 8:9being filled with the Spirit isn't prerequisite to being saved through faith.