Jackrosie, without hearing the word you are not going to be born again.
Hi Jackrosie, the quickening is the work of the Holy Spirit to those who believe in Christ...Any problem with that?
Jackrosie, additionally, we are also quicken by the word of God.
Hebrews 4:12
King James Version
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Jackrosie, without hearing the word you are not going to be born again.
The bible says it.@fredoheaven ,Did you say.....”you” believe before you were quickened?
What else does quickening mean?
Our spirit quikeneth by the words of Christ for they are spirit and they are life.
John 6:63
King James Version
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
The bible says it.
The problem is when people try to argue that "OF" implies that it's Jesus' faith and NOT OUR faith, as if we don't exercise faith "IN" Christ.Galatians 2:16
King James Version
16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
I believe the KJV got it correct and there's no problem with this. We are save by the 'faith of' if 'we believed in Jesus Christ".
Our spirit quikeneth by the words of Christ for they are spirit and they are life.
John 6:63
King James Version
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
What do you think? Me think the Spirit of God works the regeneration to our spirit (small s not to confuse) if we believe in Christ (Gala. 2:16). Hope you can also provide scripture so we can match and compare spiritual things with spiritual (1 Cor. 2:13). Will that be okay as FG say we need to harmonize. Thanks@fredoheaven ,Spirit gives birth to Spirit?.....flesh gives birth to flesh?.......what does that mean?
How do i know this is true? Are you doubting God's word? I believe I have already pointed this out. Just one word believe.@fredoheaven ,Also,how do you know this to be true.....yes,it’s Gods word...and it is TRUTH....but how do you know God has quickened you?
Surely you know this as a born again?
What do you think? Me think the Spirit of God works the regeneration to our spirit (small s not to confuse) if we believe in Christ (Gala. 2:16). Hope you can also provide scripture so we can match and compare spiritual things with spiritual (1 Cor. 2:13). Will that be okay as FG say we need to harmonize. Thanks
How do i know this is true? Are you doubting God's word? I believe I have already pointed this out. Just one word believe.
Obviously flesh give birth to flesh...@fredoheaven Spirit gives birth to Spirit......we have been made alive in Christ..quickened by God....
Flesh gives birth to flesh........human birth....alienated from the spirit of God.
How can one work his salvation by believing what Christ said@fredoheaven ,I am not doubting God’s word.....no way......so you say ,”you believe “
So you worked for your salvation?.....
How can you believe first,without being quickened?....God saves not yourself.
How can one work his salvation by believing what Christ said
John 5:24
King James Version
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life