I know Peter cussed & denied Jesus. mark ran away naked.Yet they became a hope to all nations.Maybe some of us will do better.
Why don't you show us you can be one of those ...doing better.
I know Peter cussed & denied Jesus. mark ran away naked.Yet they became a hope to all nations.Maybe some of us will do better.
I whole heartedly disagree with you, Jesus himself tells us in Mark 13:32“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33Be on guard! Be alert e ! You do not know when that time will come. 34It’s like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with their assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch.
I don't disagree Jesus knew the plan from the beginning, but when Jesus said only the Father knows I take him at face value.
It is said that faith without works is Dead!!
James 2:14-16
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
I whole heartedly disagree with you, Jesus himself tells us in Mark 13:32
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33Be on guard! Be alert e ! You do not know when that time will come. 34It’s like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with their assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch.
I don't disagree Jesus knew the plan from the beginning, but when Jesus said only the Father knows I take him at face value.
The word "knows" (in these passages) is "PERFECT INDICATIVE"...
and the "PERFECT tense" means: "ACTION COMPLETED at a SPECIFIC POINT of TIME in PAST [.] with results CONTINUING into the PRESENT [.-->]. In certain contexts the results are PERMANENT."
However, not in ALL "contexts"... SOMETIMES that can CHANGE by the introduction of FURTHER INFORMATION which CHANGES that status!
And this is what I believe occurred FOLLOWING His "ascension," when Jesus AGAIN had perfect knowledge with the Father
(and God GAVE UNTO HIM TO SHOW UNTO His servants... this "further information" ...in the LATER writing of the Revelation [in 95ad setting, well after His ascension--which also agrees with the SEQUENCE issue being shown between Matt22:7's "70ad events" and Matt22:8's "THEN SAITH HE to his servants," which necessarily takes place FOLLOWING the 70ad events, and which fits the Rev1:1[7:3] text perfectly]).
In John 17:5 (just before He would go to the Cross), Jesus says,
Berean Study Bible
And now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with the glory I had with You before the world existed.
Berean Literal Bible
And now glorify Me, You Father, with Yourself, with the glory that I had with You before the world existed.
King James Bible
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Again, the text is not conveying that "no one WILL EVER know" nor "CAN EVER know"... (it pertained to "knows [perfect indicative]" [at the time spoken]... and the question then would become, is this a "PERMANENT" thing, or did LATER "further information" which was DISCLOSED in Scripture CHANGE that status? I say, yes, this is what Scripture indicates... per "[The] Revelation"... [which covers that very Subject])
Because i already cussed and ran away naked.Why don't you show us you can be one of those ...doing better.
Yes, works, good deeds, service to the kingdom, in related to our being Saved. Because those who are in the kingdom are called to serve the kingdom.I never quoted Works save us only the blood does this, but works does play into this. If we accept Jesus and the gift he gave and did nothing more, do you believe that is enough? Or does the parable about Hot, Cold, and Lukewarm apply? You also have Jesus saying in Matthew 7:19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Matthew 7:21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Jesus himself tells us that not all those who profess to be Saved are...
Because i already cussed and ran away naked.![]()
So tell me why does it matter about Pre, Mid, Post? The command to us was to be ready because he comes like a thief in the night! Not even Jesus knows when he is coming back! If Jesus doesn't know, I doubt any of us Earth bound mortals will figure it out either!! In my mind it is just talk from everyone, they are expressing their beliefs or understandings and nothing more.
I never quoted Works save us only the blood does this, but works does play into this. If we accept Jesus and the gift he gave and did nothing more, do you believe that is enough? Or does the parable about Hot, Cold, and Lukewarm apply? You also have Jesus saying in Matthew 7:19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Matthew 7:21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Jesus himself tells us that not all those who profess to be Saved are...
I never quoted Works save us only the blood does this, but works does play into this. If we accept Jesus and the gift he gave and did nothing more, do you believe that is enough? Or does the parable about Hot, Cold, and Lukewarm apply? You also have Jesus saying in Matthew 7:19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Matthew 7:21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did wonly the Bible illiterate would think/believe works will earn us a way to heave.e not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Jesus himself tells us that not all those who profess to be Saved are...
Of course if a person is genuinely saved, the salvation that is in them (the indwelling of the Holy Ghost) will motivate them to do good works.
However, in the case of a death-bed conversion; or as in the case of the thief on the Cross, salvation came to these people solely because of their faith in Jesus Christ, apart from works (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 4:1-8, Romans 11:5-6, Titus 3:4-7).
It has been said that we are saved by grace through faith alone, but that genuine faith is never alone.
This is where I stand on the subject.
In the case where no opportunity is presented to do any good works, a genuine faith alone will save; for man looks on the outward appearance but God looks on the heart. So, He knows whether or not someone's faith is genuine even if their faith is not accompanied by good works. Whereas Romans 4:2 tells us that we are justified before men by our works when compared to certain verses in James chapter 2.
I'm an ole time religion guy, my point to this was that since Jesus does not know the timing why do we concern ourselves with this? It does not change the story of Jesus or what he did. Just factional infighting...This is 2021 and ...the new age religion group is very active...study scripture.
If you do not have eternal life now, you are not spiritually alive. Adam died the moment that he disobeyed God. Yet he still walked and talked, chose and acted on his decisions. We would say that he was alive. But not to God.So I am not sure what you are trying to say? Obviously I do have life in this world but that does not guarantee me Eternal Life. I will point you to Jesus himself in John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
I understand that we are saved by the blood but I would not call this Heaven or maybe you/we don't Endure Happiness or Completeness. To me Endure implies pain. GOD blesses me daily and provides for me this is True, but this is still Earth.
We know of his background that he died on the cross for stealing in the Roman Empire.I would disagree...with thief on the cross. We know not what his background was. Christ did.
However, I find it difficult and so far evasive to find a condition which would prevent one from doing works as a ambassador for Christ. Don't forget scripture...faith without works is dead. God would not give us a requirement and then allow us to be prevented from complying.
We know of his background that he died on the cross for stealing in the Roman Empire.
So, he was there for a sin that he had committed.
Now the Bible says that a good tree cannot bear bad fruit and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
So, if the thief was a good tree, why did he steal?
I believe that before placing his faith in Christ while they were on the crosses, the thief was a bad tree.
He was regenerated and renewed when he placed his faith in Christ.
He was saved, "not by works of righteousness which he had done; but by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost" (Titus 3:5)
Yes;And yet thru faith the thief who believed unto Salvation, in fact, did a good work from God.
Do you know what it was?
However, technically, if that were a work, then he was saved by works; and such a thing is contrary to scripture (Ephesians 2:8-9).
For it is written that confessing the Lord Jesus with our mouth is something that we do for salvation.