What do you think about works?

[SophieT]

The christian world we living in today doesn’t seem to understand what type of works this is

well as long as you know

right?

then again, you can't be wrong if you are the only one who knows about it

 

[eternally-gratefull]

All these people are not really slandering Blik, they are slandering God. They speak against truth, not Blik. It usually it centers on that God changes with the new covenant, or that we must not mention working for the Lord. That is slandering God. Then their great refrain is that they are lily white, perfect humans, and Blik just misunderstands them. Or they, with their perfect understanding and their perfection are only training Blik in the truth. The idea that humans are discussing scripture is beyond their ability to comprehend.

You right we are not slandering you, we have you pegged and judge you fairly

your the one slandering there, then refuse to repent when your called out

 

[SophieT]

All these people are not really slandering Blik, they are slandering God. They speak against truth, not Blik. It usually it centers on that God changes with the new covenant, or that we must not mention working for the Lord. That is slandering God. Then their great refrain is that they are lily white, perfect humans, and Blik just misunderstands them. Or they, with their perfect understanding and their perfection are only training Blik in the truth. The idea that humans are discussing scripture is beyond their ability to comprehend.

such hot air. surprised you actually wrote it, but not surprised this is how you think

 

[SophieT]

You right we are not slandering you, we have you pegged and judge you fairly

your the one slandering there, then refuse to repent when your called out

I don't think it's actually slander.

I think it's more like a personal fantasy...and I'm not joking

I mean she equates what she says with God speaking. that is not healthy...but very revealing and not surprising

All these people are not really slandering Blik, they are slandering God.

plus referring to herself in the 3rd person? this is a persona

 

[SophieT]

I live life openly, I'm the same person where ever I go, with whoever I meet, I have no hidden agendas, Im slow to anger, fast to forgive, I give my Love, patients, physicality, knowledge and time, I'm honest & truthful (to my detriment) where ever and to whom ever I encounter, and it's all thanks and glory to GOD, his embrace, led me to get closer to Christ, to seek understanding of the scriptures, to make sacrifices and end vices, that hinder my walk to righteousness,... far from the finished product, but continue to walk to him, life in him gets easier

we don't really know that though

have you seen this?

Let another praise you, and not your own mouth—a stranger, and not your own lips. Proverbs 27:2

 

[SophieT]

because of ignorance. if they knew what they did, not only if they were to learn with their mind, but with their hearts, they would 'see'. and seeing.... begin to repent.

4 fingers pointing back at you

there is a reason it works that way

a believer is not saved because they follow the law and judge those who understand the law does nothing but condemn

righteousness is a process, but it must be believed in ... faith - in - Christ (right- eous -ness). as we believe -- we can begin to do. overcoming is in the mind of the one who believes he should (has faith). there are greater faiths and lessers.

this explains your inability to grasp the gospel

RIGHTEOUSNESS is INSTANT. we are made righteous in Christ the moment we believe. we can NEVER EVER attain our own righteousness even if we lived 1000 years. what is actually ongoing is SANCTIFICATION

holy holy holy is the LORD. we, are not. He is righteous. we are righteous only IN him. we cannot work out our own righteousness

 

[Blik]

You right we are not slandering you, we have you pegged and judge you fairly

your the one slandering there, then refuse to repent when your called out

If you acted as a Christian and not as a heathen judge you would point out any scripture that you interpret differently than I do. You do not do that, you refuse to listen to what the Lord tells you about righteous judgment and judge the person. You act in heathen ways, not walking in the kingdom of God. I am speaking of your acts, not of you as a person.

 

[SophieT]

"walknlight, post: 4653506

I disagree with most of this, not that I am any authority but the neither are you.

Don't take my word for any of this, go to scripture.

definitely a conflict going on

 

[rayzor]

I think it's always been grace and both of you need to know the difference between the bible and god...it's god book but the book is not god,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If you acted as a Christian and not as a heathen judge you would point out any scripture that you interpret differently than I do. You do not do that, you refuse to listen to what the Lord tells you about righteous judgment and judge the person. You act in heathen ways, not walking in the kingdom of God. I am speaking of your acts, not of you as a person.

Maam, You push the law like its the best thing ever, yet break it by continuing to bear false witness against other.

like most lawyers. You push law yet prove you yourself can keep it.

I have pointed out scripture that tell you what the law is and its purpose.

your the one who keeps ignoring it. Then have to back track when it’s printed out to you.

confess your sins maam. Repent

 

[SophieT]

My friend I think you are.

Look at post 207.

@Blik did not post what @walknlight posted.

Now go back to post 225 your post.
You responded with a post from @Blik

are you crazy?

you want to incur the wrath of that which is perfect?

I would sleep with one eye open if I was you

 

[SophieT]

I see you're slandering Blik yet again. Pack of Jackals. You're a shame. All of you are.
Every last person here who has ever insisted the law of God is done away. And slippery nonsense doesn't revoke that fact either.
When the opponents of God's law, even the law of Christ, as Christians know it, insist the law is done away they're not saying it is in our hearts. Obviously. When they insist the law is done away, that's finality. They don't say, the law is done away with but.....That would make no sense.

You know this. Don't challenge what you know the answer to.

loves God but hates her neighbor

can't make this stuff up

 

[rayzor]

loves God but hates her neighbor

can't make this stuff up

Luk 14:26
If any go to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

 

[Blik]

I think it's always been grace and both of you need to know the difference between the bible and god...it's god book but the book is not god,

I look to scripture to tell me about God, and I am careful to include all scripture about any aspect pf God. You say the bible is not God, and of course it isn't, but how does that relate to scripture telling us about God?

 

[Blik]

Maam, You push the law like its the best thing ever, yet break it by continuing to bear false witness against other.

like most lawyers. You push law yet prove you yourself can keep it.

I have pointed out scripture that tell you what the law is and its purpose.

your the one who keeps ignoring it. Then have to back track when it’s printed out to you.

confess your sins maam. Repent

I push scripture, and scripture speaks a lot about the law. I ignore nothing of scripture. I read posts that push one aspect, one use of the law and say that is the one use. That amounts to ignoring other uses of the law. I accept all uses of the law, posts tell people to listen to only one use. THAT is ignoring scripture. It is best you look to your own ways before you judge others and use common sense, reason, and the holy spirit, not false slander.

 

[Dino246]

It is best you look to your own ways before you judge others and use common sense, reason, and the holy spirit, not false slander.

Please show us how to do this, by your example.

 

[Icedaisey]

All these people are not really slandering Blik, they are slandering God. They speak against truth, not Blik. It usually it centers on that God changes with the new covenant, or that we must not mention working for the Lord. That is slandering God. Then their great refrain is that they are lily white, perfect humans, and Blik just misunderstands them. Or they, with their perfect understanding and their perfection are only training Blik in the truth. The idea that humans are discussing scripture is beyond their ability to comprehend.

I genuinely believe the reasons for all that you rightly observe is because the truth of God, the Bible, and the Covenant, are anathema to such ones as that.

They come for you, for me, for others in Christ because they are enemies of the truth. The hounds of Hell travel in packs.

It would explain the limited rhetoric, the condemnation of God's will, word, law, covenant, using the disguise of false doctrine, so that it appears they're not purposefully intending to disrespect the faith but rather are just misled and can be put right with gentle correction.

But that's not true. I checked. This pack, some, have been on the anti-gospel track for years. The same rut. The same rediculous false rhetoric.
They clearly dislike you with a passion. They gang up in your threads and assail you over and over.

It's a test.
Remember Satan in the Desert? He tested Jesus during his fast, over and over. Just once he wanted Jesus to concede to Satans perspective and leading.

Truth doesn't concede to the lie.

They want to assail every thread you make, every thread any Christian makes, when seeking to discuss Apologetics, Soteriology, etc.... So to bring chaos and discord into the thread and discourage new members in particular from participating due to the conflict and hate filled atmosphere they purposefully conjure.

Imagine.
Imagine if we turned them off. Removed them from having any chance again of gaining our attention.

Oh, they'd still labor to deceive. They'd escalate their fallen behaviors because their tired false rhetoric was no longer getting our attention.
Then for those that still read them, would witness how dark they are.

Imagine Christian communication without the destraction of demons opposed to the light.

We can't counter their lies with truth. You know this has been tried for overlong and has failed to alter their behaviors. In fact continuing to try to reach them just encourages them to continue.

It's like thinking if we just pray hard enough one day Satan will repent, and ask to be Baptized.
Ain't happening, ever.

They gain pleasure thinking they're hurting our feelings. The truth from God in Christ is to recognize dedicated depravity and accept they aren't good people.

If you keep trying to reach them, they'll only feel encouraged to keep going because they think Christians holding faith are pathetic.
And when we're public about our faith, as in gathering in forums and discussing the Bible publicly, we invite attack,contempt,mockery, personal insults, upon ourselves.

And they like to see how low they can go and how long we'll remain responding with a Christ like demeanor.
Because as soon as we reply in language they understand they'll feel satisfied their tactics have worked, and we're deluding ourselves.

 

[Icedaisey]

I push scripture, and scripture speaks a lot about the law. I ignore nothing of scripture. I read posts that push one aspect, one use of the law and say that is the one use. That amounts to ignoring other uses of the law. I accept all uses of the law, posts tell people to listen to only one use. THAT is ignoring scripture. It is best you look to your own ways before you judge others and use common sense, reason, and the holy spirit, not false slander.

And if you doubt what I said in my post just before this reply to you, all you need do is re-read that one you were talking to.
The Bible is anathema to those who are lost. It's why they can't actually debate Christians.

 

[Icedaisey]

I didn't judge you to be anything

I asked you a QUESTION

we must safeguard ourselves from making assumptions or to be condescending of others

Unless it's you making assumptions and being condescending to others.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I push scripture, and scripture speaks a lot about the law. I ignore nothing of scripture. I read posts that push one aspect, one use of the law and say that is the one use. That amounts to ignoring other uses of the law. I accept all uses of the law, posts tell people to listen to only one use. THAT is ignoring scripture. It is best you look to your own ways before you judge others and use common sense, reason, and the holy spirit, not false slander.

You ignore The purpose of the law

there are no one other uses. Except your manmade uses