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Lanolin

Lanolin

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it must be boring to be a security guard having to watch people all the time...I guess thats why we have CCTV

the interesting thing is to rewind things so everyone does things backwards.

my mum does watch CCTV but its the chinese channel...although closed circuit tv and chinese tv are pretty much the same thing. One thing though...there are far more ads for real estate agents in chinese than ones on english channels. English channels tend to have more ads on SUVS and other useless things like....insurance.
 
Magenta

Magenta

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I am watching a mini/docu-series called The Keepers. Opening scenes concern events surrounding the disappearance and murder of a Catholic nun in Baltimore in 1969. As the story unfolds we learn that the case had gone cold, though 20 some odd years later a woman came forward to reveal memories she had suppressed since that time of systematic sexual abuse which had been perpetrated against female students by two of the priests at her prestigious Catholic high school, priests who also brought in police, politicians, local business men, and other priests to abuse the girls. The priest had shown her the decomposing corpse of the nun (before it was officially discovered around three months after she disappeared) to underscore to her what happened to anyone who said "bad things" about the sexual abusers.

When the case first went to trial at that time (1994), it was thrown out on the technicality of statute of limitations (which had expired), and the priest was simply shuffled around to different parishes by the Catholic powers that be. However, once again about twenty years later, two former students of the murdered nun started their own investigation, and eventually received confirmation of inappropriate behavior by the priests from many other girls who had attended the same Catholic school in the late sixties and early seventies.

These two women also set up a face book page seeking to get justice for the murdered nun who lost her life because she was going to expose the sexual abuse that was going on in the school where she taught. I am in episode 5/6; with accumulated information they have received through facebook, the independent investigators are closing in on the murderers.

These are real life events that are being disclosed :cry:
 
Magenta

Magenta

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Correction: it was the early nineties when many other former students came forward to corroborate the testimony of the original woman, who was named as Jane Doe. Her large Catholic family had sent out about a thousand post cards to former female students who had attended the same school at the same time as Jane Doe, but all the testimony against the abusers was not enough to convict the perverted pedophile priest due to the technicality of expired statute of limitations :cry::censored::cry:
 
Socreta93

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Magenta said:
I watched that last weekend :) The six-part mini series really helped me come to a better understanding of what happened all those years ago, which was not what the media portrayed at all, because, oh dear, they spun their story based on government lies and cover-ups, surprise surprise! ;) Yes, David Koresh was a bit of a religious kook, but according to the sect survivor who wrote a book on his experiences in the compound, and a sympathetic FBI negotiator who did the same (sympathetic in that he knew the way the FBI was handling it was all wrong, but they did not care for his approach either and sent him home just before the carnage started)... according to their telling of the siege, what happened was quite different from what we were told at the time. Of course I remember hearing about it way back when (early nineties), but I am far more interested in historical phenomena now than I was then, and enjoy watching depictions from the times of my youth, even though the details and events are often disturbing since they really bring to light the fallen nature of humanity :cry:
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While watching all I kept thinking was "wait am I supposed to feel sorry for this guy? Because I legit feel sorry for him and everyone in that compound. They were at peace until they got raided for no reason.
 
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TabinRivCA said:
This series on YT is outstanding. It pulls you into the scenario when Christ shows up in the middle of the hopelessness of the day.

Great family program and I think 6 episodes.
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I LOVE this series! I can't wait for season 2 to come out!
 
Magenta

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Socreta93 said:
While watching all I kept thinking was "wait am I supposed to feel sorry for this guy? Because I legit feel sorry for him and everyone in that compound. They were at peace until they got raided for no reason.
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I get it... the media (which were portrayed as really trying to understand what was going on) was duped by the government and the government wanted to dupe the public. If it had not been for the fact that the series was based on solid research including TWO books, one by an FBI negotiator (Gary Noesner) who spent about half of the 51 day siege on site, I would have been tempted to believe we were being manipulated to hate the government. The show was criticized for its sympathetic approach to Branch Davidians, BUT, the fact that the victims were humanized is not a bad thing, and the FBI blatantly lied quite a few times, and also broke the law.
 
Magenta

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I finished watching The Keepers. It is a little maddening to see how private citizens who take it upon themselves to investigate something (even many years later with a "cold" case) can learn much more about what motivated the crimes and who perpetrated them than the police who were supposed to be investigating the crimes in the first place. Learning about the fabrication, mishandling and loss of evidence by the police and other agencies who had a vested interest in burying the case -since the police wanted to deflect interest elsewhere because they were involved in some of the criminal activity- is likewise troublesome. And sad, so sad, that the murder victims and their families have not received justice in any way shape, or form.

Some of the people who were sexually abused as children and adolescents eventually received a pittance amount from the Catholic church in proceedings that were conducted behind closed doors. When the statute of limitations was looked at to see if it could and should be changed in cases like these (sexual abuse of minors), the Catholic church, though not in any way being on trial throughout that particular proceeding, stepped in to block any changes as if their doing so was to protect innocent people, and the bill was killed before going to vote.

I sincerely hope that pedophiles and other sexual deviants and abusers are no longer being allowed to use the power afforded them in the positions they attain in such institutions to cover their abuses. That it has been allowed to go on for so long and in so many ways and times and places is not only a tragedy but a crime worthy of them having large millstones hung around their necks and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
 
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TabinRivCA said:
This series on YT is outstanding. It pulls you into the scenario when Christ shows up in the middle of the hopelessness of the day.

Great family program and I think 6 episodes.
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There are 8 and more seasons to come. It is the best Jesus production I ever saw.
 
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Magenta said:
I finished watching The Keepers. It is a little maddening to see how private citizens who take it upon themselves to investigate something (even many years later with a "cold" case) can learn much more about what motivated the crimes and who perpetrated them than the police who were supposed to be investigating the crimes in the first place. Learning about the fabrication, mishandling and loss of evidence by the police and other agencies who had a vested interest in burying the case -since the police wanted to deflect interest elsewhere because they were involved in some of the criminal activity- is likewise troublesome. And sad, so sad, that the murder victims and their families have not received justice in any way shape, or form.

Some of the people who were sexually abused as children and adolescents eventually received a pittance amount from the Catholic church in proceedings that were conducted behind closed doors. When the statute of limitations was looked at to see if it could and should be changed in cases like these (sexual abuse of minors), the Catholic church, though not in any way being on trial throughout that particular proceeding, stepped in to block any changes as if their doing so was to protect innocent people, and the bill was killed before going to vote.

I sincerely hope that pedophiles and other sexual deviants and abusers are no longer being allowed to use the power afforded them in the positions they attain in such institutions to cover their abuses. That it has been allowed to go on for so long and in so many ways and times and places is not only a tragedy but a crime worthy of them having large millstones hung around their necks and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
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The difficulty with the sexual activity in the catholic church is it has been going on for centuries within the priest/nun facilties. I don't want to detrail the thread so I won't say more but this goes way back.
 
Magenta

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DorothyMae said:
The difficulty with the sexual activity in the catholic church is it has been going on for centuries within the priest/nun facilties. I don't want to detrail the thread so I won't say more but this goes way back.
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That is why I said "that it has been allowed to go on for so long and in so many ways and times and places is not only a tragedy but a crime worthy of them having large millstones hung around their necks and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." I know we have a good God, and that those who hunger and thirst for righteousness shall be filled :)
 
Lanolin

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thats terrible..yes it wasnt only just the Boston cases that were brough to light by investigative jorunalists, and people speaking out, it was happening worldwide, and when people spoke out, for centuries nobody bothered to hear them, cos children were not seen as people or legitmate eye witnesses. And they were easily manipulated and silenced.

On a different topic...mum and dad showed all their overseas trip photos to the family...I fell asleep. Dad put it on the tv and most of them were hundreds of pics of trains and buses and city sights and big historic buildings. I can only handle so much sight-seeing. lol
 
Magenta

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Love those movies. Ant man is my fave at the moment 😁
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Is that the one with the wasp also? Ant-Man and the Wasp? I did not mind it :D Many of the avengers' type movies put me to sleep :giggle: Although I did also very much enjoy Iron man, it seems when a whole slew of them get involved to save the world it loses a lot of focus for me and fails to hold my interest. Paul Rudd is hilarious in Living With Yourself... and how can you go wrong with Michael Douglas? :unsure::geek::giggle:
 
Magenta

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Susanna said:
The Blacklist. I sometimes think I would make a decent criminal mastermind😁.

James Spader is the best!
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His character role in Boston Legal was pretty cool :) I really liked him in the original Stargate (1994 movie) also :)

Boston Legal was probably the first show I ever binge watched :giggle:
 
Lanolin

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I didnt know Michelles book was on TV. Is it much different to the autobiography?

I did watch some of Johnny English strikes again but was ruined by ads interrupting it every ten minutes.
I think it was the third movie of it. Anyway if you like British spoofs, (of James Bond) or Mr Bean its entertaining. But I think theres only so much of Rowan Atkinson I can handle at a time.
 
TabinRivCA

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It's more about her book touring, interviews and the ups and downs of her experience as the First Lady. She is a dynamic and wonderful person and it's an excellent film.:)(y)




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Mak33

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Currently binge watching "Better Call Saul" I'm now on season 5... I will be continuing with El Camino afterwards. I like the story line, unpredictable.
 
Billyd

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American Pickers. Some people pay alot of money for junk.
 
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