What Are The Events Leading Up To The End?

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iTheophilus

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The four horsemen of the Apocalypse, in my opinion, lead to the church's falling away—the Great Apostasy. So will the "New World Order" be formed out of these four horsemen? I believe this is the first beast of Revelation 13, by the way. First and foremost, we need to understand that Satan (the antichrist) rides each of the four horses of the Apocalypse.

The Apocalypse's Four Horsemen:

Is the first seal, which depicts a man on a white horse, a reference to religion, satanic-controlled churches, and false teaching?

Is the second seal, the guy on a red horse, referring to political and satanic-controlled government systems?

Is the third seal, which depicts a man riding a black horse, a satanic-controlled economic system?

Is our educational institution, satanic-controlled schools and media, the fourth seal, the man on a Pale horse?

Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, "Come and see." And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer. When He opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come and see." Another horse, fiery red, went out. And it was granted to the one who sat on it to take peace from the earth, and that people should kill one another; and there was given to him a great sword. When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come and see." So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, "A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine." When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, "Come and see." So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.

- Revelation 6:1-8 (NKJV)

—T
 
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Omegatime

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1st Seal. First appearance of the antichrist, makes a covenant with many including Israel which allows temple to be rebuilt.

2nd Seal. The start of nation against nation (gentile against gentile) Israel escapes violence

3rd Seal. A day's work for a loaf of bread, great famines

4TH Seal. They will call it WW3, 2 billion people will die of war, famine, plagues, wild beasts. Again, Israel escapes violence.
 

Jackson123

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I have a question
Why first seal represent false religion? It may right, but I need to know what make you think first seal is false religion?
 

iTheophilus

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I have a question
Why first seal represent false religion? It may right, but I need to know what make you think first seal is false religion?
Greetings, Jackson. . .

Well, first of all, the seals represent knowledge of what happens in the trumps. The first seal is showing us that a fake rider on a white horse (Antichrist) was given a crown and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. This deceiving fake rider is imitating Jesus Christ. In these latter days, deception is the name of the game.

And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. - Revelation 12:17 (NKJV

And Jesus answered and said to them: "Take heed that no one deceives you. "For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. - Matthew 24:4-5 (NKJV)

The first seal is deception. We can’t be deceived by the first dude who claims to be Christ. Talking about false religion…and many will be deceived!

—T
 

Jackson123

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Greetings, Jackson. . .

Well, first of all, the seals represent knowledge of what happens in the trumps. The first seal is showing us that a fake rider on a white horse (Antichrist) was given a crown and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. This deceiving fake rider is imitating Jesus Christ. In these latter days, deception is the name of the game.

And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. - Revelation 12:17 (NKJV

And Jesus answered and said to them: "Take heed that no one deceives you. "For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. - Matthew 24:4-5 (NKJV)

The first seal is deception. We can’t be deceived by the first dude who claims to be Christ. Talking about false religion…and many will be deceived!

—T
In other word, look like Christian but not.
And follow by 3 more horse, war famine and pandemic.

False religion attack the mind, to convince people to follow false Leader,
Than secretly the leader direct bastions war against each other/ world war 3, and war will make famine and pandemy

That is Satan strategy to destroy the world
 

Dino246

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This may seem to be a silly question, but it isn’t at all…

The end of what, exactly?

The answer to this question determines the answer to the title question. I would encourage interested readers of Scripture to consider the matter carefully, rather than to assume that all apparently unfulfilled prophecy refers to a particular time frame.
 

shittim

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I always took the white horse to be islame, who believe the "mahdi" will ride a white horse.
 

Jackson123

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ResidentAlien

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I have a question
Why first seal represent false religion? It may right, but I need to know what make you think first seal is false religion?
The Horsemen represent situations, not people. For example the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th represent War, Famine, and Death respectively. It would be inconsistent for the 1st horse to represent a person: the Antichrist for example.

The White Horse is an imitation of Christ on the white horse in Revelation 19: false Christianity in other words. He goes out conquering and to conquer by eradicating, as much as he can, true Christianity—if possible the very elect.

The Four Horsemen are described by Jesus in the Olivet discourse:

"Take heed that no one deceives you. [First horse] For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. [Second horse] See that you are not disturbed; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise up against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines, [Third horse] pestilences, and earthquakes in various places."—Matthew 24:4-7

We can assume there will be widespread death [Fourth horse] as a result of war and famine. Notice Revelation 6:8:

"And behold, a pale horse, and he who sat on it was named Death, and Hades was following him. And authority was given to him over a fourth of the earth, to kill with the sword, and with famine, and with death, and by the wild beasts of the earth."

That's my take on it anyway.
 
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Omegatime

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Total deaths from world war 2 was about 3% of the world's population, the death count at the fourth seal is going to be 25%, more than 8 times the deaths from WW2
 

GRACE_ambassador

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op: "Events leading up to the end"?
Precious friends, depends Which End you are referring to:

1) The END Of God's PURE GRACE for the Current Body Of CHRIST, According
To "The Revelation Of The MYSTERY"? =
NO events, as God's Great GRACE
Departure Is Imminent (could Occur At Any Moment!) (Romans - Philemon KJB)


2) The END of The future Time Of JACOB's (ISRAEL's) Trouble? = Yes, Several
events, as per Daniel, Matthew, And Revelation...

(2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 3:9 =
Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans – Philemon}, For ALL “to SEE,” today?)


Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!
God’s Simple Will!
 

Nehemiah6

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I have a question
Why first seal represent false religion? It may right, but I need to know what make you think first seal is false religion?
The Four Horsemen should be connected to all the events described in Matthew 24 (as well as Mark 13 and Luke 21). This is called "The Olivet Discourse" since Christ gave these revelations on the Mount of Olives (outside Jerusalem).

So the first horseman is connected to false Christs (or Messiahs): 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. (Mt 24:4,5) Have there been many false Christs since 30 AD? Absolutely. Perhaps at least two dozen.

Many people believe that the first five seals will be opened in the future. But in fact, they were opened in the 1st century and those events have continued. For example earthquakes have intensified in recent years. Only the events of the 6th and 7th seals are in the future, and will correspond to Daniel's 70th week.
 

Rondonmon

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The four horsemen of the Apocalypse, in my opinion, lead to the church's falling away—the Great Apostasy. So will the "New World Order" be formed out of these four horsemen? I believe this is the first beast of Revelation 13, by the way. First and foremost, we need to understand that Satan (the antichrist) rides each of the four horses of the Apocalypse.
First off, the Falling Away is a MISNOMER, it means a Departure, NOT from the Faith, but from this earth sans the Rapture of the Church. So the Seals thus can not have anything to do with the Church losing faith at all.

The Apocalypse's Four Horsemen:

Is the first seal, which depicts a man on a white horse, a reference to religion, satanic-controlled churches, and false teaching?

Is the second seal, the guy on a red horse, referring to political and satanic-controlled government systems?

Is the third seal, which depicts a man riding a black horse, a satanic-controlled economic system?

Is our educational institution, satanic-controlled schools and media, the fourth seal, the man on a Pale horse?
The Four Horses all represent ONE MAN, the coming Anti-Christ, who becomes the Beast when he CONQUERS and a White Horse throughout history is represented by a White Horse, thus Jesus is shown on a white horse also in Revelation 19. Its just this simple:
  1. White Horse = the Anti-Christ Conquering in order to become THE BEAST as the 1260 Middle of the week.
  2. Red Horse = the Anti-Christ TAKING AWAY his fake peace of the first 3.5 years, thus it also stands for War.
  3. Black Horse = the Anti-Christ's edicts and wars causing worldwide famine over his 42 month rule.
  4. Pale Green Horse = the Anti-Christs rule causing Death/Sickness and the Grave (hades) over 42 month's.
All these above are Prophesies by Jesus, who opens these Seals in Heaven just before God's Wrath (Rev. 8 Trumps) fall onto mankind. The 5th Seal is also the Beast, who murders those who come to Christ after the Rapture. The 6th Seal is Jesus foretelling of the coming Judgments/wrath of God over the coming 42 months as seen in Rev. 8.

Nothing seen here can be seen in Matt. 24:4-14, it can only be seen in Matt. 24:15-31.
 

Blik

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God has a pattern in all God does, God has a pattern He uses to give us prophecy and he has't changed that pattern. If we look at every prophecy in scripture that has come about, especially the prophecy of His first coming to earth, we see God gave it in symbols rather than literal. Man has never known the literal way God brought those symbols to life, Man can only look back on them and know those symbols related.

The most literal and fleshly prophecy of the end of our world is given in the three fall feasts. They give us step by step how it will happen.