yet
we see verse - - :13 FROM HENCEFORTH EXPECTING UNTIL HIS ENEMIES BE MADE HIS FOOTSTOOL.
and
Mar 12:36 Sit ON my right hand, UNTIL I make thy enemies thy footstool.
Luk 20:42 Sit thou ON my right hand, - UNTIL I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Act 2:34 Sit thou ON my right hand, UNTIL I make thy foes thy footstool.
Heb 1:13 Sit ON my right hand, UNTIL I make thine enemies thy footstool?
the translators later translating the Protestant K.J.V. correctly fix and repair this Catholic contradiction by moving and shuffling the punctuation to move the - " comma > - NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE
Protestant K.J.V. - - After he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever ,,,,, - sat down ON the right hand of God;
vs the Catholic
Catholic Douay Rheims and the Latin Vulgate - - Offering one sacrifice for sins,,,,, - for ever sitteth ON the right hand of God,
My humble question about the Trinity is about the “ PRE EXISTENCE ” of Jesus as human, the physical existence of Jesus in bodily form - as a human being / a man, Son of God - as CO - Equal, CO - Eternal, CO - Omnipresent - human body, - man, - Son of man, or Son of God
This very first human / Man / Son existing before Adam and Eve.
- when does Jesus be removed and taken away and loose his seat and position of being GLORIFIED to sit at the right hand of God ?
when is the seating arrangement in heaven changed for the Trinitarian Jesus concerning his new glory, new power, new authority, ?
his - rank, position, power, reputation, status, level, evaluation - his newly altered seating arrangement in the heavens is being changed and he is commanded - sit here - - until - this time comes,, - until such and such a time,, - Jesus will be seated - on my right hand,
Why is God asking Jesus to change his position and move himself to re position himself to receive something that he did not possess previously to be promoted to receiving authority and power.
Receiving equality with the Father ?
Receiving Eternal Status of Godhead with the Father ?
Receiving the same power with the Father ?
Receiving glory, worship from the angels and all of heaven -
Receiving the power to forgive and judgment - committing all judgment unto the Son:
Receiving a new seat in heaven at the very right hand side of the Father - that angels and authorities will now be subject unto Jesus
Receiving - the right hand of the Father making him - eternal mediator - that he never possesses in the Old Testament - as any man receiving
Receiving a new seat at the right hand of God, maketh intercession for us
Receiving exaltation at his right hand as Leader and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins.
All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me
I simply ask - he was to be there ‘ until ‘ such a such and such a time, this means, he was not always there - -
Trinitarian father is saying to Trinitarian son --- Jesus - commanding Jesus - - “” move your seating arrangement, “” commanding Jesus - - Jesus - - you are commanded to bring your throne over here and - move from where you currently are seated and come over here to the right hand side of me and sit down here on my right hand side - sit here on my right hand side…
and also, Jesus ……….. you, sit here - ‘ until ‘ such a such a time,
and Jesus - - - you are to sit here, until / until your enemies be made a footstool.
this means that Trinitarian Jesus was not always seated on the right hand of the father and that after such and such a time, he will no longer be remaining _ seated / existing - - - on the right hand of the Trinitarian father.
1Pe 3:22 Jesus is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of god; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
but
- :13 FROM HENCEFORTH EXPECTING “ { this position } “ UNTIL HIS ENEMIES BE MADE HIS FOOTSTOOL.
to add to my personal confusion - if any Trinitarian Friends Can Please Help me To Understand ?
Trinitarian Jesus is expecting that he will maintain his seat and position of being GLORIFIED to sit ON the right hand of God - until his enemies be made a footstool ..
Ok
but why would Jesus have to lower himself and take on the role or morph or form of a man or lower himself to be a servant of God - and come down to earth and manifest himself in the form of a human being - a man
if that was what or who he already always was and always will be ?
why would Jesus have to lower himself and take on the role or morph or form of a man or lower himself to be changed and altered, changing his status, changing onto someone existing as a servant of God – he is changed, altered - LOWERING HIMSELF and becoming found to be fashioned as a servant / man in flesh - as a man
Changed, becoming suddenly obedient to the Father - Changed, becoming suddenly made into a lower human form / man
- Changed, becoming suddenly Co Equal - moving his position, status, rank, authority sitting on the right of the Father
1. why - is he suddenly being promoted, re - positioned, re - located and moving upward in rank and power
The Father is changing and elevating the status of his position from one LOWER position to be ELEVATED and re located and placed and moved to another higher position, a higher status - rank / authority. Jesus us being GIVEN an equality with the father -
HE IS BEING GIVEN AUTHORITY OVER - all of the hosts of heaven, all of creation, the angels are subject to him.
We notice that when Jesus was
Heb 1:4 Being made - so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
:5 THIS DAY - THIS DAY - have I begotten thee? I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son
:6 let all the angels of God worship him.
but why does the Trinity faith say that all of this is as something that he already possesses and exists as ?
or someone whom he already was, and always will be in the Trinitarian doctrine ?
as pre – existing as human, before Adam and Eve.
we see verse - - :13 FROM HENCEFORTH EXPECTING UNTIL HIS ENEMIES BE MADE HIS FOOTSTOOL.
and
Mar 12:36 Sit ON my right hand, UNTIL I make thy enemies thy footstool.
Luk 20:42 Sit thou ON my right hand, - UNTIL I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Act 2:34 Sit thou ON my right hand, UNTIL I make thy foes thy footstool.
Heb 1:13 Sit ON my right hand, UNTIL I make thine enemies thy footstool?
the translators later translating the Protestant K.J.V. correctly fix and repair this Catholic contradiction by moving and shuffling the punctuation to move the - " comma > - NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE
Protestant K.J.V. - - After he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever ,,,,, - sat down ON the right hand of God;
vs the Catholic
Catholic Douay Rheims and the Latin Vulgate - - Offering one sacrifice for sins,,,,, - for ever sitteth ON the right hand of God,
My humble question about the Trinity is about the “ PRE EXISTENCE ” of Jesus as human, the physical existence of Jesus in bodily form - as a human being / a man, Son of God - as CO - Equal, CO - Eternal, CO - Omnipresent - human body, - man, - Son of man, or Son of God
This very first human / Man / Son existing before Adam and Eve.
- when does Jesus be removed and taken away and loose his seat and position of being GLORIFIED to sit at the right hand of God ?
when is the seating arrangement in heaven changed for the Trinitarian Jesus concerning his new glory, new power, new authority, ?
his - rank, position, power, reputation, status, level, evaluation - his newly altered seating arrangement in the heavens is being changed and he is commanded - sit here - - until - this time comes,, - until such and such a time,, - Jesus will be seated - on my right hand,
Why is God asking Jesus to change his position and move himself to re position himself to receive something that he did not possess previously to be promoted to receiving authority and power.
Receiving equality with the Father ?
Receiving Eternal Status of Godhead with the Father ?
Receiving the same power with the Father ?
Receiving glory, worship from the angels and all of heaven -
Receiving the power to forgive and judgment - committing all judgment unto the Son:
Receiving a new seat in heaven at the very right hand side of the Father - that angels and authorities will now be subject unto Jesus
Receiving - the right hand of the Father making him - eternal mediator - that he never possesses in the Old Testament - as any man receiving
Receiving a new seat at the right hand of God, maketh intercession for us
Receiving exaltation at his right hand as Leader and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins.
All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me
I simply ask - he was to be there ‘ until ‘ such a such and such a time, this means, he was not always there - -
Trinitarian father is saying to Trinitarian son --- Jesus - commanding Jesus - - “” move your seating arrangement, “” commanding Jesus - - Jesus - - you are commanded to bring your throne over here and - move from where you currently are seated and come over here to the right hand side of me and sit down here on my right hand side - sit here on my right hand side…
and also, Jesus ……….. you, sit here - ‘ until ‘ such a such a time,
and Jesus - - - you are to sit here, until / until your enemies be made a footstool.
this means that Trinitarian Jesus was not always seated on the right hand of the father and that after such and such a time, he will no longer be remaining _ seated / existing - - - on the right hand of the Trinitarian father.
1Pe 3:22 Jesus is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of god; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
but
- :13 FROM HENCEFORTH EXPECTING “ { this position } “ UNTIL HIS ENEMIES BE MADE HIS FOOTSTOOL.
to add to my personal confusion - if any Trinitarian Friends Can Please Help me To Understand ?
Trinitarian Jesus is expecting that he will maintain his seat and position of being GLORIFIED to sit ON the right hand of God - until his enemies be made a footstool ..
Ok
but why would Jesus have to lower himself and take on the role or morph or form of a man or lower himself to be a servant of God - and come down to earth and manifest himself in the form of a human being - a man
if that was what or who he already always was and always will be ?
why would Jesus have to lower himself and take on the role or morph or form of a man or lower himself to be changed and altered, changing his status, changing onto someone existing as a servant of God – he is changed, altered - LOWERING HIMSELF and becoming found to be fashioned as a servant / man in flesh - as a man
Changed, becoming suddenly obedient to the Father - Changed, becoming suddenly made into a lower human form / man
- Changed, becoming suddenly Co Equal - moving his position, status, rank, authority sitting on the right of the Father
1. why - is he suddenly being promoted, re - positioned, re - located and moving upward in rank and power
The Father is changing and elevating the status of his position from one LOWER position to be ELEVATED and re located and placed and moved to another higher position, a higher status - rank / authority. Jesus us being GIVEN an equality with the father -
HE IS BEING GIVEN AUTHORITY OVER - all of the hosts of heaven, all of creation, the angels are subject to him.
We notice that when Jesus was
Heb 1:4 Being made - so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
:5 THIS DAY - THIS DAY - have I begotten thee? I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son
:6 let all the angels of God worship him.
but why does the Trinity faith say that all of this is as something that he already possesses and exists as ?
or someone whom he already was, and always will be in the Trinitarian doctrine ?
as pre – existing as human, before Adam and Eve.