Watching and Preparing

[randyk]

From another Discussion...
Randy said:
In my view, Jesus was using "watching" as a synonym for "being ready." If we "watch" we are in fact getting "ready" as Jesus used the term.

But as you say, these concepts are not necessarily the same unless used in a context that joins them. In this case, "watching" is "being ready."

But outside of how Jesus is using "watching," it can fall woefully short of "being ready." For example, I could be engaged in all kinds of eschatological preparation by drawing up prophetic maps, interpreting current events, and even selling some of my material belongings. But if we are not walking in step with the Lord spiritually we are not really "being ready." We are just engaging in a "prophetic watch."

Sentry duty is not necessarily "getting ready." To get ready properly we have to be walking with the Lord, and not just engaging our minds in developing prophetic calendars and schemes. To try to anticipate the signs and times in this way goes against what Jesus specifically said regarding anticipating his Return.

We are *not* to know times and seasons as our main focus in order to get ready for his Coming. Rather, we are to be engaged in the ministry we are called to presently in specific preparation for that event. We bring the message of warning to the world first, and then comes the end.

What Jesus told his Disciples of in the Olivet Discourse was a different context from his Coming, though Jesus compared these events. But in the case of the fall of the Temple, Jesus warned his Disciples that the time for that to happen had already come, that it would happen in *their generation."

But by contrast Jesus' Return is going to follow a long Jewish Exile and Diaspora that necessarily precedes his Coming. He will not Come until after they have been sent into Exile for the longest punishment in the history of the Jews. Only then will he Return.

In the meantime it is our duty to continue with this job of testifying to the Gospel and warning the world of coming Judgment. He will not come until God sees fit to do so.

To be ready for that event we are now given opportunity to relay the message that we can be converted spiritually in order to repent and be spared God's hostility towards Sin. To be "ready" therefore is to be *converted* and to remain true to this conversion spiritually and morally.
There is a difference between "knowing" by intellectual assent (ginosko) and "knowing" through an experience of the senses (eido). Both of them are used in the discourse. And both words are used in Matthew 24:33.
Mar 13:29 ISV In the same way, when you SEE (eido) these things taking place, you will know that the Son of Man is near, right at the door.

Mat 24:33 KJV So likewise ye, when ye shall SEE all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

Someone said:
There is a difference between "knowing" by intellectual assent (ginosko) and "knowing" through an experience of the senses (eido). Both of them are used in the discourse. And both words are used in Matthew 24:33.
Mar 13:29 ISV In the same way, when you SEE (eido) these things taking place, you will know that the Son of Man is near, right at the door.
Mat 24:33 KJV So likewise ye, when ye shall SEE all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

Randy said:
I agree that there is a difference between knowing by senses, and thus preparing, and knowing intellectually. But they can also be the same thing. This would be a distinction without a difference.

That is, I can intellectually assent to Jesus' Coming and at the same time recognize with my eyes physical evidence that his Coming is near, though that is not yet possible--we see nothing that suggests he is coming in the immediate moment.

What we must recognize is the difference between the need to physically prepare for and physically see things that are happening now, and things that are distant and in the future. The things that are happening now are our priority, and not the distant things.

I suggest that in the Olivet Discourse Jesus was comparing the relatively imminent judgment against the Jews in 70 AD and the 2nd Coming Jesus' Disciples were asking him about. The one event was already up on the calendar and had to be physically prepared for. The other event was distant and not important to try to physically prepare for or anticipate. Distant things are subject to "times and seasons" that are under the Father's care, and not our present concern (Acts 1.7).

We prepare for that distant event, ie Christ's Coming strictly by remaining ready spiritually, as always, continuing to walk in our converted lifestyle, remaining true to Christ. If we remain true to him today we are ready today, even if the event remains a long ways off.

We cannot prepare for that event physically but it is not yet of curremt concern. It belongs to the "times and seasons" category that we are not to try to anticipate and physically see or prepare for.

The lesson is, I think, to be engaged in things that are happening now, or about to happen imminently, just as Jesus' Disciples had to prepare for the relatively imminent event of 70 AD. The things that are far off we don't need to speculate on because our higher priority is in doing things now that must precede Christ's Coming.

We must preach the Gospel of conversion and we must warn the world of God's judgment against their Sin. This is our priority and must precede the actual time of Christ's Return.

 

[homwardbound]

From another Discussion...
Randy said:
In my view, Jesus was using "watching" as a synonym for "being ready." If we "watch" we are in fact getting "ready" as Jesus used the term.

But as you say, these concepts are not necessarily the same unless used in a context that joins them. In this case, "watching" is "being ready."

But outside of how Jesus is using "watching," it can fall woefully short of "being ready." For example, I could be engaged in all kinds of eschatological preparation by drawing up prophetic maps, interpreting current events, and even selling some of my material belongings. But if we are not walking in step with the Lord spiritually we are not really "being ready." We are just engaging in a "prophetic watch."

Sentry duty is not necessarily "getting ready." To get ready properly we have to be walking with the Lord, and not just engaging our minds in developing prophetic calendars and schemes. To try to anticipate the signs and times in this way goes against what Jesus specifically said regarding anticipating his Return.

We are *not* to know times and seasons as our main focus in order to get ready for his Coming. Rather, we are to be engaged in the ministry we are called to presently in specific preparation for that event. We bring the message of warning to the world first, and then comes the end.

What Jesus told his Disciples of in the Olivet Discourse was a different context from his Coming, though Jesus compared these events. But in the case of the fall of the Temple, Jesus warned his Disciples that the time for that to happen had already come, that it would happen in *their generation."

But by contrast Jesus' Return is going to follow a long Jewish Exile and Diaspora that necessarily precedes his Coming. He will not Come until after they have been sent into Exile for the longest punishment in the history of the Jews. Only then will he Return.

In the meantime it is our duty to continue with this job of testifying to the Gospel and warning the world of coming Judgment. He will not come until God sees fit to do so.

To be ready for that event we are now given opportunity to relay the message that we can be converted spiritually in order to repent and be spared God's hostility towards Sin. To be "ready" therefore is to be *converted* and to remain true to this conversion spiritually and morally.
There is a difference between "knowing" by intellectual assent (ginosko) and "knowing" through an experience of the senses (eido). Both of them are used in the discourse. And both words are used in Matthew 24:33.
Mar 13:29 ISV In the same way, when you SEE (eido) these things taking place, you will know that the Son of Man is near, right at the door.

Mat 24:33 KJV So likewise ye, when ye shall SEE all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

Someone said:
There is a difference between "knowing" by intellectual assent (ginosko) and "knowing" through an experience of the senses (eido). Both of them are used in the discourse. And both words are used in Matthew 24:33.
Mar 13:29 ISV In the same way, when you SEE (eido) these things taking place, you will know that the Son of Man is near, right at the door.
Mat 24:33 KJV So likewise ye, when ye shall SEE all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

Randy said:
I agree that there is a difference between knowing by senses, and thus preparing, and knowing intellectually. But they can also be the same thing. This would be a distinction without a difference.

That is, I can intellectually assent to Jesus' Coming and at the same time recognize with my eyes physical evidence that his Coming is near, though that is not yet possible--we see nothing that suggests he is coming in the immediate moment.

What we must recognize is the difference between the need to physically prepare for and physically see things that are happening now, and things that are distant and in the future. The things that are happening now are our priority, and not the distant things.

I suggest that in the Olivet Discourse Jesus was comparing the relatively imminent judgment against the Jews in 70 AD and the 2nd Coming Jesus' Disciples were asking him about. The one event was already up on the calendar and had to be physically prepared for. The other event was distant and not important to try to physically prepare for or anticipate. Distant things are subject to "times and seasons" that are under the Father's care, and not our present concern (Acts 1.7).

We prepare for that distant event, ie Christ's Coming strictly by remaining ready spiritually, as always, continuing to walk in our converted lifestyle, remaining true to Christ. If we remain true to him today we are ready today, even if the event remains a long ways off.

We cannot prepare for that event physically but it is not yet of curremt concern. It belongs to the "times and seasons" category that we are not to try to anticipate and physically see or prepare for.

The lesson is, I think, to be engaged in things that are happening now, or about to happen imminently, just as Jesus' Disciples had to prepare for the relatively imminent event of 70 AD. The things that are far off we don't need to speculate on because our higher priority is in doing things now that must precede Christ's Coming.

We must preach the Gospel of conversion and we must warn the world of God's judgment against their Sin. This is our priority and must precede the actual time of Christ's Return.

Now, in short order
Be inner-dependent on God Father and Son as won for you to be new in love and mercy to all also. It is love from God through Son that won, and then one in belief, becomes new in being inner-dependent on God Father and Son to to teach them new first 1 John 2:27
Thank you for your post, and am elated you believe God too

 

[Blain]

Watching and being ready for the rapture I am guessing? To be honest I want to believe it is soon but I have become numb to the idea sadly

 

[lrs68]

Watching and being ready for the rapture I am guessing? To be honest I want to believe it is soon but I have become numb to the idea sadly

That's actually pretty interesting because 20 years ago I was kinda lost between my family, work, activities for my children, and my own interests that I had God in mind but always was too busy for the most important things like God and drawing closer to Him. Then I woke up one morning and realized that the years passed by, things in life happened, and next I am sitting beside my Dad understanding it was too late to do the things we did because he was going Home to be with God. That last week was horrible and each night made us wonder about tomorrow or if there would be a tomorrow for my Dad. But as he was slipping away he grabbed my hand and made me promise to meet him in Heaven.

Now I began changing my life and setting my direction towards God and all hell broke loose for several years that seemed like a continuation of one massive trial after another. Then a couple years ago I suddenly got this hunger to be closer and learn like I once did about the Tanakh and New Testament. It was like a crash course because knowledge was jumping out of the pages and imbedding into my heart and mind. I couldn't get enough and everything I was reading seemed to open up a new revelation.

And here I am now writing this in response to your post because I am convinced without a shadow of a doubt that Tribulation could begin any moment now. I am convinced that the Spirit of God could spark that final end times Revival they preached about for years. I am convinced that Yeshua will be coming relatively soon. And I am convinced that tomorrow could be the day that kicks it all off. It's like a feeling of awareness and atmosphere. I just believe.

 

[Blain]

That's actually pretty interesting because 20 years ago I was kinda lost between my family, work, activities for my children, and my own interests that I had God in mind but always was too busy for the most important things like God and drawing closer to Him. Then I woke up one morning and realized that the years passed by, things in life happened, and next I am sitting beside my Dad understanding it was too late to do the things we did because he was going Home to be with God. That last week was horrible and each night made us wonder about tomorrow or if there would be a tomorrow for my Dad. But as he was slipping away he grabbed my hand and made me promise to meet him in Heaven.

Now I began changing my life and setting my direction towards God and all hell broke loose for several years that seemed like a continuation of one massive trial after another. Then a couple years ago I suddenly got this hunger to be closer and learn like I once did about the Tanakh and New Testament. It was like a crash course because knowledge was jumping out of the pages and imbedding into my heart and mind. I couldn't get enough and everything I was reading seemed to open up a new revelation.

And here I am now writing this in response to your post because I am convinced without a shadow of a doubt that Tribulation could begin any moment now. I am convinced that the Spirit of God could spark that final end times Revival they preached about for years. I am convinced that Yeshua will be coming relatively soon. And I am convinced that tomorrow could be the day that kicks it all off. It's like a feeling of awareness and atmosphere. I just believe.

I have been wondering if we are entering into a transition of the tribulation revival and the rapture. after I posted my last post here I felt a tug inside to go to youtube and I came upon a video that was very short but interesting. basically it showed me something about a calculation of the rapture or rather harpazo
watch this video it is very short but I was astonished by it

 

[homwardbound]

Watching and being ready for the rapture I am guessing? To be honest I want to believe it is soon but I have become numb to the idea sadly

When people come to the end of their expectations, the new begins
I see my unrealistic expectations, sets me up for failure(s) Like Lord I won't do that, I love you, I get reminded of Peter, saying oh, Lord no I won't. Then, the death, burial and resurrection. Then seeing not remembering where at in scripture.
Jesus on the shore after risen and Peter and others on a boat fishing, they see Jesus on shore, he is cooking a fish
Peter swims to him, and Jesus says three times to him, Peter do you love me three times as Peter responds you know I do Lord
Then he says to Peter "Feed my Sheep" Is Jesus talking food? Spiritual food yes. What did Jesus say to them the disciples when were eating and they wanted him to sit down and eat right before taken away to be killed first?
I have food that you do jot know of yet. Now in the risen Son we have this food to eat and be content in all things happening whether it seems good for now or not, you think?
Love to you Brother to last through the coldest day or hottest one or even in between
Look up acceptance in Bible gateway and see all the scriptures that come up, amazing this is to see and read them all,
The battlefield of the Angelic conflict, still raging forward, love to all

 

[randyk]

That's actually pretty interesting because 20 years ago I was kinda lost between my family, work, activities for my children, and my own interests that I had God in mind but always was too busy for the most important things like God and drawing closer to Him. Then I woke up one morning and realized that the years passed by, things in life happened, and next I am sitting beside my Dad understanding it was too late to do the things we did because he was going Home to be with God. That last week was horrible and each night made us wonder about tomorrow or if there would be a tomorrow for my Dad. But as he was slipping away he grabbed my hand and made me promise to meet him in Heaven.

Now I began changing my life and setting my direction towards God and all hell broke loose for several years that seemed like a continuation of one massive trial after another. Then a couple years ago I suddenly got this hunger to be closer and learn like I once did about the Tanakh and New Testament. It was like a crash course because knowledge was jumping out of the pages and imbedding into my heart and mind. I couldn't get enough and everything I was reading seemed to open up a new revelation.

And here I am now writing this in response to your post because I am convinced without a shadow of a doubt that Tribulation could begin any moment now. I am convinced that the Spirit of God could spark that final end times Revival they preached about for years. I am convinced that Yeshua will be coming relatively soon. And I am convinced that tomorrow could be the day that kicks it all off. It's like a feeling of awareness and atmosphere. I just believe.

Yea, it's terrible that we can live in sort of an artificial dream, going on inertia without any recognition whatsoever of the importance of our relationship with God. And what is our relationship with Him but a conscious sense that we should be trying to please Him in all we do, in the mundane things, in the ministry things, in our poltical and social concerns.

But that's where the cost and the trial comes in. When we begin to actually live by the word of God, the test begins, and we feel all kinds of opposition and reasons for discouragement. This is where we really begin to make a difference with God and in our lives, because it is when God's word becomes our mission that we make a difference in lives around us and in our own lives.

Good luck to you. I hope your aspirations succeed, and that you pass the test. I don't really define the "Tribulation" as the Reign of Antichrist as if it is about to begin. I define the Tribulation the way Jesus did, when he was speaking primarily to the Jews.

He told them that in view of their nation's condition there would be a curse on the nation that lasts until his return. In the meantime a remnant of believers would emerge and hold the fort for Israel until her time of redemptioni draws near.

That tribulation has been in place for Israel throughout the Jewish Diaspora, and is in place for former Christian nations that are "losing it." But the remnant of godly people in all these nations are "holding the fort" until Christ returns.

Be encouraged. You're the one(s) who keep hope alive and who make a difference. Even when you don't see it or feel it--working with God's word is something that lasts. "The flowers fade, but the word of our God lasts forever."

 

[lrs68]

Yea, it's terrible that we can live in sort of an artificial dream, going on inertia without any recognition whatsoever of the importance of our relationship with God. And what is our relationship with Him but a conscious sense that we should be trying to please Him in all we do, in the mundane things, in the ministry things, in our poltical and social concerns.

But that's where the cost and the trial comes in. When we begin to actually live by the word of God, the test begins, and we feel all kinds of opposition and reasons for discouragement. This is where we really begin to make a difference with God and in our lives, because it is when God's word becomes our mission that we make a difference in lives around us and in our own lives.

Good luck to you. I hope your aspirations succeed, and that you pass the test. I don't really define the "Tribulation" as the Reign of Antichrist as if it is about to begin. I define the Tribulation the way Jesus did, when he was speaking primarily to the Jews.

He told them that in view of their nation's condition there would be a curse on the nation that lasts until his return. In the meantime a remnant of believers would emerge and hold the fort for Israel until her time of redemptioni draws near.

That tribulation has been in place for Israel throughout the Jewish Diaspora, and is in place for former Christian nations that are "losing it." But the remnant of godly people in all these nations are "holding the fort" until Christ returns.

Be encouraged. You're the one(s) who keep hope alive and who make a difference. Even when you don't see it or feel it--working with God's word is something that lasts. "The flowers fade, but the word of our God lasts forever."

This is an excellent explanation and descriptive account on what seems to take place whenever someone truly makes it a purpose to draw themselves closer to God. Aside from the trials that our enemy attempts to impose upon us to give up or separate ourselves from God, or the trials we unknowingly bring upon ourselves, God allows them all to strengthen our Faith in Him. It's the evidence of the reward we obtain once we exit the season we just passed through.

It even strengthens our dependacy and focus to God. It's interesting because Romans 1 reveals that God manifests Himself through Creation, the Universe, Nature, People in order for people to see and believe in God. Which is very much the same way as God is doing through trials so we look to Him, seek after Him, believe in Him, keep focused on Him. Clearly in everything both good and bad there's a purpose happening to reveal God so we draw ourselves towards Him.

 

[homwardbound]

Watching and being ready for the rapture I am guessing? To be honest I want to believe it is soon but I have become numb to the idea sadly

Might trust God to have already won in you presently and forever while here still. I think that be the best way to think and stand in the midst of adversities
I see worry has never changed me out of things, not being well with me
Asked by Jesus per Matthew 6. Will worry add a cubit to your life?
I saw no way, yet still continued in worry thanks to doubt. Learned, learning g tp not doubt as God said if you doubt, you will not get established, Isaiah 7:9. I took that to heart and this expanded too believe God, and not doubt oe get worried over if I sin. again or not as religion teaches you better. Which in itself creates Sin. Sin takes occasion by the commandment of men. Tunney use the Commands misunderstanding
Behold, the Lamb pf God that takes away sin and did it on the cross once for us all. Now, going new life in his risen Life to love all snd be content in all. How can one, anyone be content in all things good or bad happening to them? God knows and tells each child what each child needs to know, always at the proper timing
Never fails anyone in belief to his love and mercy for them. These become content in all things good or bad happening, knowing, not how, yet know, God has got them safe in God by risen Son as God the two married as One. The mystery of marriage

 

[randyk]

Might trust God to have already won in you presently and forever while here still. I think that be the best way to think and stand in the midst of adversities
I see worry has never changed me out of things, not being well with me
Asked by Jesus per Matthew 6. Will worry add a cubit to your life?
I saw no way, yet still continued in worry thanks to doubt. Learned, learning g tp not doubt as God said if you doubt, you will not get established, Isaiah 7:9. I took that to heart and this expanded too believe God, and not doubt oe get worried over if I sin. again or not as religion teaches you better. Which in itself creates Sin. Sin takes occasion by the commandment of men. Tunney use the Commands misunderstanding
Behold, the Lamb pf God that takes away sin and did it on the cross once for us all. Now, going new life in his risen Life to love all snd be content in all. How can one, anyone be content in all things good or bad happening to them? God knows and tells each child what each child needs to know, always at the proper timing
Never fails anyone in belief to his love and mercy for them. These become content in all things good or bad happening, knowing, not how, yet know, God has got them safe in God by risen Son as God the two married as One. The mystery of marriage

What a great attitude! Hold on to that thought!

 

[Blain]

Might trust God to have already won in you presently and forever while here still. I think that be the best way to think and stand in the midst of adversities
I see worry has never changed me out of things, not being well with me
Asked by Jesus per Matthew 6. Will worry add a cubit to your life?
I saw no way, yet still continued in worry thanks to doubt. Learned, learning g tp not doubt as God said if you doubt, you will not get established, Isaiah 7:9. I took that to heart and this expanded too believe God, and not doubt oe get worried over if I sin. again or not as religion teaches you better. Which in itself creates Sin. Sin takes occasion by the commandment of men. Tunney use the Commands misunderstanding
Behold, the Lamb pf God that takes away sin and did it on the cross once for us all. Now, going new life in his risen Life to love all snd be content in all. How can one, anyone be content in all things good or bad happening to them? God knows and tells each child what each child needs to know, always at the proper timing
Never fails anyone in belief to his love and mercy for them. These become content in all things good or bad happening, knowing, not how, yet know, God has got them safe in God by risen Son as God the two married as One. The mystery of marriage

I hope I can adapt that kind of attitude because to be honest I am struggling hard in life and in my faith, just wondering and asking God when will things finally work out for me? my living situation leaves me with no hope no blessings in sight on the horizon no way out of this circumstance that I have been in prisoned in. I just am at my lowest and most hopeless point in my life and I am trying to trust God in this but to be honest all I feel inside is sadness and empty of any hope.

 

[homwardbound]

What a great attitude! Hold on to that thought!

I have for years and stand in trust, depending on God even through adversities too. As well have never been perfect as God is perfect, not me.
You, too Brother you too as we all in belief, continue to stand in trust to God for us all, at least me, I see I need God, I am dependent on God not independent as this world teaches to be, not seeing when one does go for independency, they are in truth denying God as their leader into the truth and not getting set free, and develop their own interpretations, and make doctrines and not the deception going on around them of this world we are in. Col 2, reveals set free
Set free to truthfully Love beyond understanding as in 1 Cor 13:4-7 tells me. I read that and see "I" can't do that. Only God can and did that through Son for us to see and be new in Daddy's Love and mercy for us all, God imputes, I respond, thank you

 

[homwardbound]

I hope I can adapt that kind of attitude because to be honest I am struggling hard in life and in my faith, just wondering and asking God when will things finally work out for me? my living situation leaves me with no hope no blessings in sight on the horizon no way out of this circumstance that I have been in prisoned in. I just am at my lowest and most hopeless point in my life and I am trying to trust God in this but to be honest all I feel inside is sadness and empty of any hope.

I see, and love you as God Father in risen Son Jesus loves us all. That got shown in Son willingly going through the troubles he went through for us all the people to give reconciliation to us all as forgiven first John 1:29. John 19:30, as you know and tell, shout out and have been doing so, forever it seems like and is frustrating you in your flesh nature. Waiting for redemption of the flesh, that you have not gotten yet, and are focused on that more and more, which brought you to drowning and wanting even more this to become true right now, as is true already true for you from. Father's view in risen Son to you. Yet not feeling that way, because of Blindness ( I Heard), not able to take care of self, in a nursing home. I see this in many people even myself. Which is no different than being in jail. You decide to see and have decided to think about this crippled state you are in. Which has taken a hold of you presently, And is natural for anyone to do and not like and want out of it too, that is the mindset gotten in of the first born flesh person. Which through belief to God becomes dead and yet held alive while still crippled.
Paul, himself was put in Jail and what a tragedy. People trying to stop his love and mercy working through him too all of God the risen one, for everyone to choose willingly too, and be willing to die, even as Jesus did that first fro us all to become content in.
What???????????????? How???
Easy, unexplainable to flesh answer by God's done work of Son for each one to choose to believe God and. be content in all things as Paul saw truth of God over it all, and continued glory in risen Son while in Jail. The Jail
As I know you do too, seen it in. your posts here on Christian Chat and your story. Amazing Grace you got. Now going through troubles, that you hate, I see that, I myself too gone going through troubles too I hate too.

 

[homwardbound]

Continuing forward pasting the whole edit that will not edit after 5 minutes here you Go friends in the risen Son too

I see, and love you as God Father in risen Son Jesus loves us all. That got shown in Son willingly going through the troubles he went through for us all the people to give reconciliation to us all as forgiven first John 1:29. John 19:30, 2 Cor 5:16-20, as you know and have told, shouted out and have been doing so, forever it seems like and is frustrating you presently in your flesh nature. Waiting for redemption of the flesh, that you have not gotten yet, and are focused on that more and more, which brought you to drowning and wanting even more this to become true right now, as is true already true for you from Father's view in risen Son for you. Yet not feeling that way, because of Blindness ( I Heard), not able to take care of self, in a nursing home. I see this in many people even myself. Which is no different than being in jail. You decide to see and have decided to think about this crippled state you are in. Which has taken a hold of you presently, And is natural for anyone to do and not like it and want out of it too, that is the mindset gotten in of the first born flesh person. Which through belief to God becomes dead and yet held alive while still crippled, standing in trust even when feeling bad over it. Acts 17:28
Paul, himself was put in Jail and what a tragedy. People trying to stop his love and mercy working through him to present all of God the risen one, for everyone to choose willingly too, and be willing to die to self, even as Jesus did that first, for us all to become content in, even though nothing is well in our flesh still.
What???????????????? How???
Easy, yet, unexplainable to flesh to fathom, this is by God's done work of Son for each one to choose to believe God and. be content in all things as Paul saw truth of God over it all, and continued glorying in risen Son while in Jail. The Jail help came to belief, how? by seeing Paul still being content in all things good or bad, you think, gets in the way, you think?
As I know you know truth over error(s) of our unredeemed flesh too, seen it in your posts here on Christian Chat and your story. Amazing Grace you got. Now going through troubles, that you hate, I see that, I myself have gone, going through troubles too I hate too.
How to reconcile "It is what it is" There not wanting things to be the way they are, are perplexing to accept, the way they are. Troubles put in our way in belief to God are put in our paths by evil to stop us from being content in all things happening good or bad

1. Philippians 1:16
   the one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
2. Philippians 4:11
   Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewithto be content.

You are in a boat drowning, you are sinking. Jesus comes to you walking on the water to you. And says to you, Blain, focus on me, Blain focus on me. Then says to you, what is happening to you is happening inside you, it is not real, what you are seeing, Blain: focus on me Jesus your Messiah. Then you will be freed while in adversities and others will see this and believe also. tell me who in the flesh does not complain? Paul was in Spirit and remained in Spirit and truth of God in risen Son, focused on Jesus, time for you too. As Evil has been trying to sift you like wheat over your troubles you are in. Yet Father and Son know you will learn from this trouble you are going through in your thoughts of flesh troubles. And sees as he told Peter, Satan wishes to sift you like wheat, now when you return from that sifting, you will strengthen the brethren. We are all in an angelic conflict. where evil tries to get anyone away from total dependency on God

When going through troubles, time to say to God, what can I learn from them?
Thank you, as I trust God for to heal you Spiritually over the flesh desires trying to control you. To accept is not easy, I know still working on my accepting too, even though I have gotten troubles too, as you know after telling my story in my troubles too
God will see you through this and show you, I do not know how, nor do you, yet God will, do you remain in trust to God, even if you remain where you are? The mysterious ways, of God I still do not understand and do not have to anymore, since I stand in belief to God above everything else, now you too thank you Father and Son as Won for you too.

 

[Blain]

Continuing forward pasting the whole edit that will not edit after 5 minutes here you Go friends in the risen Son too

I see, and love you as God Father in risen Son Jesus loves us all. That got shown in Son willingly going through the troubles he went through for us all the people to give reconciliation to us all as forgiven first John 1:29. John 19:30, 2 Cor 5:16-20, as you know and have told, shouted out and have been doing so, forever it seems like and is frustrating you presently in your flesh nature. Waiting for redemption of the flesh, that you have not gotten yet, and are focused on that more and more, which brought you to drowning and wanting even more this to become true right now, as is true already true for you from Father's view in risen Son for you. Yet not feeling that way, because of Blindness ( I Heard), not able to take care of self, in a nursing home. I see this in many people even myself. Which is no different than being in jail. You decide to see and have decided to think about this crippled state you are in. Which has taken a hold of you presently, And is natural for anyone to do and not like it and want out of it too, that is the mindset gotten in of the first born flesh person. Which through belief to God becomes dead and yet held alive while still crippled, standing in trust even when feeling bad over it. Acts 17:28
Paul, himself was put in Jail and what a tragedy. People trying to stop his love and mercy working through him to present all of God the risen one, for everyone to choose willingly too, and be willing to die to self, even as Jesus did that first, for us all to become content in, even though nothing is well in our flesh still.
What???????????????? How???
Easy, yet, unexplainable to flesh to fathom, this is by God's done work of Son for each one to choose to believe God and. be content in all things as Paul saw truth of God over it all, and continued glorying in risen Son while in Jail. The Jail help came to belief, how? by seeing Paul still being content in all things good or bad, you think, gets in the way, you think?
As I know you know truth over error(s) of our unredeemed flesh too, seen it in your posts here on Christian Chat and your story. Amazing Grace you got. Now going through troubles, that you hate, I see that, I myself have gone, going through troubles too I hate too.
How to reconcile "It is what it is" There not wanting things to be the way they are, are perplexing to accept, the way they are. Troubles put in our way in belief to God are put in our paths by evil to stop us from being content in all things happening good or bad

1. Philippians 1:16
   the one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
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2. Philippians 4:11
   Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewithto be content.

You are in a boat drowning, you are sinking. Jesus comes to you walking on the water to you. And says to you, Blain, focus on me, Blain focus on me. Then says to you, what is happening to you is happening inside you, it is not real, what you are seeing, Blain: focus on me Jesus your Messiah. Then you will be freed while in adversities and others will see this and believe also. tell me who in the flesh does not complain? Paul was in Spirit and remained in Spirit and truth of God in risen Son, focused on Jesus, time for you too. As Evil has been trying to sift you like wheat over your troubles you are in. Yet Father and Son know you will learn from this trouble you are going through in your thoughts of flesh troubles. And sees as he told Peter, Satan wishes to sift you like wheat, now when you return from that sifting, you will strengthen the brethren. We are all in an angelic conflict. where evil tries to get anyone away from total dependency on God

When going through troubles, time to say to God, what can I learn from them?
Thank you, as I trust God for to heal you Spiritually over the flesh desires trying to control you. To accept is not easy, I know still working on my accepting too, even though I have gotten troubles too, as you know after telling my story in my troubles too
God will see you through this and show you, I do not know how, nor do you, yet God will, do you remain in trust to God, even if you remain where you are? The mysterious ways, of God I still do not understand and do not have to anymore, since I stand in belief to God above everything else, now you too thank you Father and Son as Won for you too.

Thank you for your encouraging and wise words, I have seen him use me in the place I am in and as for what I learned from my situation well don't take freedom for granted. being in this nursing home is just like a prison in every sense of the word but sadly I just have nowhere else I can go I would have been homeless if I didn't come here as my old roomate was stealing hundreds of dollars from me while I was starving to death she was eating all kinds of food with my money

I don't know why things had to work out the way they did but surely God knows what he is doing. one day I might write a testimony of how all this went and how God was with me even then but for now I just need to be able to weather this storm and hopefully the right person will come and help me out of here.

I had a dream about that actually I don't know if it was prophetic or not but it was a dream that gave me hope. So I will try to be content in my situation while waiting for God to pluck me out of this prison

 

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Thank you for your encouraging and wise words, I have seen him use me in the place I am in and as for what I learned from my situation well don't take freedom for granted. being in this nursing home is just like a prison in every sense of the word but sadly I just have nowhere else I can go I would have been homeless if I didn't come here as my old roomate was stealing hundreds of dollars from me while I was starving to death she was eating all kinds of food with my money

I don't know why things had to work out the way they did but surely God knows what he is doing. one day I might write a testimony of how all this went and how God was with me even then but for now I just need to be able to weather this storm and hopefully the right person will come and help me out of here.

I had a dream about that actually I don't know if it was prophetic or not but it was a dream that gave me hope. So I will try to be content in my situation while waiting for God to pluck me out of this prison

God has and God will, me not knowing how, yet will someway, somehow and yes you will look back and be stronger over the troubles in for now.
Job went through this too. Accused of sinning and God was punishing him. Went truth is God was not and does not punish anyone. It is people that do that to one another
God loves us all. see that, not the broken wing of a bird
The bird was/is created to fly and can't do it with a broken wing. The same for us God loves, we are created to be loved by God, regardless of any circumstances we are in presently
Feel that, God does not punish, people do that. God disciplines and Brother you will get through it. God is in the mix that takes awhile to see it. Remembering the first chosen that got put in to slavery, and it took 430 years to deliver them out of it. 430 years and that was not in truth even a day to the Lord
No impatience in Heaven, were you are made a citizen of forever thanks to the love nd mercy of God first

 

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God has and God will, me not knowing how, yet will someway, somehow and yes you will look back and be stronger over the troubles in for now.
Job went through this too. Accused of sinning and God was punishing him. Went truth is God was not and does not punish anyone. It is people that do that to one another
God loves us all. see that, not the broken wing of a bird
The bird was/is created to fly and can't do it with a broken wing. The same for us God loves, we are created to be loved by God, regardless of any circumstances we are in presently
Feel that, God does not punish, people do that. God disciplines and Brother you will get through it. God is in the mix that takes awhile to see it. Remembering the first chosen that got put in to slavery, and it took 430 years to deliver them out of it. 430 years and that was not in truth even a day to the Lord
No impatience in Heaven, were you are made a citizen of forever thanks to the love nd mercy of God first

Yeah I suppose this is just like job's situation, it is easy to think I am being punished and I have thought this several times but if God provides a harpazo for me out of this situation then I would praise him a hundred times over for delivering me and maybe that is the point maybe I am inprisoned here so that when he does deliver me he would be glorified with a true heart of thankfulness after all it is all about him not us or our situations.

 

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Yeah I suppose this is just like job's situation, it is easy to think I am being punished and I have thought this several times but if God provides a harpazo for me out of this situation then I would praise him a hundred times over for delivering me and maybe that is the point maybe I am inprisoned here so that when he does deliver me he would be glorified with a true heart of thankfulness after all it is all about him not us or our situations.

the mysterious ways of God, ever since day one in Adam and Eve not believing God and ate from the tree God said to them would bring death
Well, they did eat, as got deceived to eat from that age old serpent that said if you eat, you will be like God and she saw that tree as good to eat and ate, Adam also
The ploy here from evil, was/is to become independent of God's lead through them
So, they got put out to see, they need God and to see to be dependent on God alone. This was and is the Angelic conflict, that happened then and there. Ever since this world teaches independence not inner dependance on God
I see whenever any baby is first born. The baby comes out of the womb 100% dependent on the mother that carried this baby to term. Then at age two Independence enters and confusion sets in
Seeing this truth, That baby ate, because mother ate, breathed because mother breathed. Lived, because mom lived
Then independence from God Father and Son started in to believe God and remain independent from God and not see it, yet think they are in and might not be yet. Then Father continues in mercy and truth to us all, to see Daddy, PaPa, Father is fair beyond understanding

Philippians 4:6-9

Authorized (King James) Version

6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. 7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. 8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things arelovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. 9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.
This truth above is beyond understanding to the first born flesh and blood
John 4:23-24 is in place with love of God that will not stop ever, only the Angels in unbelief to God are still out and about (Not anymore in the inner court) yet still fighting, trying to get people to be independent of God. Yet, by Son we now can by Son's done work for us all, can enter in Thanksgiving and praise since by Son all sin is now taken out of the way first Psalm 103:12 a new heart given in the risen Son from Father to us to reside in and trust through us to praise God anyways, even whenever troubles are happening
The hardest as no flesh but Son's can do this truth, love all, even those that have done us wrong or do wrong, I got told Romans 2:1-4 I stopped, ceded and began this new life, where I have had many troubles also. I stand in like Job did, and now deeper in Jesus's willing death too. which only Father gets the credit not me love to us all is the call