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Jesus said those who see Him have seen the Father... and there are those who have seen Him
Also, in relation to us as human beings, holy also simply means "set apart."
Gotquestions puts it this way: At its most basic meaning, holy simply means “set apart” or even “different.”
God is holy because He is absolutely different, completely set apart from everything else.
Reminds me of a song
post #42If not Him, then who else could it possibly be
~Deut
No, Adam was created and was given the breath of life. He did not pre-exist that creation as a man without a soul.
The Book of Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven. 5 And no plant of the field was yet in the earth, and no herb of the field had yet sprung up; for Jehovah God had not caused it to rain upon the earth: and there was not a man to till the ground; 6 but there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7 And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8 And Jehovah God planted a garden eastward, in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
NIV Footnote:
Footnotes
Verse 7 (c)The Hebrew for man (adam) sounds like and may be related to the Hebrew for ground (adamah); it is also the name Adam (see verse 20).
Well i posted what scripture says about the man who became a living soul. A breath isn’t something that can normally be seen I don’t think it was air that God breathed into him for I believe he was already breathing. IMO it’s a explanation of when God breathed a living soul why do I think that because all souls belong to God.
Are you inept? Look up the Hebrew word.....if I tell you, you will just reject it because it came from me!!
Do what that is not true at all I wouldn’t reject it because it came from you why on earth would you think that? if it plausible I would certainly except, sorry I have a inquiry mind
Adam did not exist before God made him from the dust of the ground. And it was after Adam was formed that he became a living soul due to God breathing into him the breath of life.
7 And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
God gave unto Adam the breath of life.
Cross Reference:
1 Corinthians 15:45
So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being;" the last Adam a life-giving spirit.
The last Adam was Jesus. Through the first Adam sin entered the world. Through the blood sacrifice of the last Adam, Jesus, death through sin was overcome. Jesus took the sins of the world upon Himself on the cross. The last blood sacrifice for sin.
See also this scripture.
"The body shall return to the dust from whence God took it. And the breath that He put into the body to turn man into a living soul, returns to Him. Its the breath that returns to God and NOT a soul. Soul is the combination of God 's breath and the dust he took from the earth." The Book of Ecclesiastes chapter 12 (King James Version)
Our physical death is what is known as the first death. The second death is what happens when someone dies in their sins, they are not saved, and are then cast into outer darkness. Or, into Hell, as some teach also.
I never said adam existed before God created him but I do believe he existed before he received the living soul
Ezekiel 18:4
Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
including the one breathed into Adam.
Adam and Eve were created knowing God so they were without sin so they were holy, which is also testified that they were made in the image of God, and the only way that can happen after Adam and Eve sinned is to have the Holy Spirit, for the image of God is an innocent nature in flesh, which Adam and Eve was an innocent nature in flesh.
Adam and Eve were created having a relationship with God, and it would of never entered their mind to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil unless an outside source tempted them, and there was no sin yet for them to be tempted by it, so if Satan did not tempt Eve they would of never sinned.
But God gave them a choice so He allowed Satan to tempt Eve which she said they could not eat of the tree for that is all she could know and think, which then Satan tempted her giving her an alternate reality that God did not tell them by saying she will be greater than her current position and be as gods knowing good and evil, and Eve sinned then she was the outside source that tempted Adam by showing him that she did not die and nothing bad happened to her and he sinned.
In the New Testament God said be ye holy for I am holy so it is possible to those that have a relationship with God that are in the flesh by the Spirit, so Adam and Eve that were in the flesh were created holy that were created having a relationship with God.
Adam and Eve did not have to work at being holy when they were created having a relationship with God like a saint in the New Testament has to work at being holy for God said be ye holy for I am holy which means there is involvement there on the part of the saint.
Adam and Eve would of never sinned if an outside source did not tempt them for they could not think of sin on their own, but once they sinned then they knew good and evil so then they could sin if they wanted for sin came about.
Adam and Eve were created having a relationship with God, and it would of never entered their mind to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil unless an outside source tempted them, and there was no sin yet for them to be tempted by it, so if Satan did not tempt Eve they would of never sinned.
But God gave them a choice so He allowed Satan to tempt Eve which she said they could not eat of the tree for that is all she could know and think, which then Satan tempted her giving her an alternate reality that God did not tell them by saying she will be greater than her current position and be as gods knowing good and evil, and Eve sinned then she was the outside source that tempted Adam by showing him that she did not die and nothing bad happened to her and he sinned.
In the New Testament God said be ye holy for I am holy so it is possible to those that have a relationship with God that are in the flesh by the Spirit, so Adam and Eve that were in the flesh were created holy that were created having a relationship with God.
Adam and Eve did not have to work at being holy when they were created having a relationship with God like a saint in the New Testament has to work at being holy for God said be ye holy for I am holy which means there is involvement there on the part of the saint.
Adam and Eve would of never sinned if an outside source did not tempt them for they could not think of sin on their own, but once they sinned then they knew good and evil so then they could sin if they wanted for sin came about.
It carried the idea if usable for the purpose it was designed or made and if one does a complete study the word is not applied to when the heavens are made and or the day man is made, but generically used over all for all that was made.....and there is a reason for this.....the prince of the power of the air was already here and MAN would ultimately be inherantly evil...NONE GOOD no not one.....!
Let me ask you something do you think the prince of the air was created good or bad?
I think Ezekiel speaks of when, referring to king of tyre as satan himself though was created blameless the seal of perfection full of wisdom and perfect in beauty
Ezekiel 28
11Again the word of the LORD came to me, saying, 12“Son of man, take up a lament for the king of Tyre and tell him that this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13You were in Eden, the garden of God. Every kind of precious stone adorned you:
ruby, topaz, and diamond, beryl, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, turquoise, and emerald.
Your mountings and settings were crafted in gold, prepared on the day of your creation.
14You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for I had ordained you. You were on the holy mountain of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.
15From the day you were created you were blameless in your ways until wickedness was found in you.
On the day he was created IMO was on one of the days of creation he was created
Ezekiel 28
11Again the word of the LORD came to me, saying, 12“Son of man, take up a lament for the king of Tyre and tell him that this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13You were in Eden, the garden of God. Every kind of precious stone adorned you:
ruby, topaz, and diamond, beryl, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, turquoise, and emerald.
Your mountings and settings were crafted in gold, prepared on the day of your creation.
14You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for I had ordained you. You were on the holy mountain of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.
15From the day you were created you were blameless in your ways until wickedness was found in you.
On the day he was created IMO was on one of the days of creation he was created
I think the prince of the air was found wicked when he had tempted Eve for he as well was punished for his doing. I think he was the cherub of the garden yet was replaced with a flaming sword
God said he was perfect in the day he was created until iniquity was found in him...
The
Sons of God sang with the morning stars when God cast down creation