Vaccination?

[TheIndianGirl]

They haven't released it to the public but the history of the technology they have hasn't been sterling.

I have not been following too closely but all I read was that Novavax uses "traditional" technology which is supposed to be more safe. The clinical trial participants appeared to have less severe side effects.

 

[JohnDB]

This should end all discussion that the vaccine works:

https://citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/covid-vaccine-death-cahart.jpg

Ummm......the percentage line needs work. And the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine wasn't approved in the US for a reason... ineffective formula and too many side effects to begin with for this class of virus.

 

[JohnDB]

I have not been following too closely but all I read was that Novavax uses "traditional" technology which is supposed to be more safe. The clinical trial participants appeared to have less severe side effects.

Not really traditional...the moth matrix is new technology.

 

[JohnDB]

for one CDC said that masks were a requirement until the Teachers union complained then they reversed themselves literally in a day LOL. IF you are not up on the changes as I am in my state of Ca then you too must not be living under these regulations. IF you do not know that the WHO reversed themselves after China complained about the origin of this virus, that is your own fault. Not everything is conspiracy nor is everything the Government does Good for us. Your comment is your opinion and not based on reality either

and it is spelled, Theorist.

Nothing like sideways moving targets...

 

[JTB]

SO, I am asking the people who VOTED for Trump and Pence, IF THE VACCINE IS A FRAUD THEN YOUR PRESIDENT HAS DECEIVED YOU BECAUSE HE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO GET IT. AND FROM TRUMP WAS PENCE!


Do YOU really believe TRUMP and PENCE would INJECT themselves with a Scientific Mixture related to SATAN?


Or could it be, The Vaccine is SAFE and in [rare occasions fatal like less than .001 of 1%] and YOU should follow the EXAMPLE of President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence and get VACCINATED?

The problem is, people will seal their lips to Trump's backside AS LONG AS HE SPEAKS WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR. As soon as Trump says something they don't want to hear, they close their ears. It's not about who's right and who's wrong. It's all about who confirms what they already believe.

 

[joaniemarie]

In 1802, Massachusetts became the first state to encourage smallpox vaccinations. Forty-eight years later, it was home to the first school to require vaccination.

By 1900, nearly half of the states required children to be vaccinated before beginning school. By 1963, 20 states, Washington D.C. and Puerto Rico mandated a variety of vaccines for children.

In the late 1960s, efforts were underway to eradicate measles in the U.S. In the ’70s, states requiring the measles vaccine had incidence rates 40% to 51% lower than the states not requiring it.

Alaska and Los Angeles found themselves among the poorer-performing areas in that regard — forcing health officials to strictly enforce the existing requirements. source

I have always liked and respected you Magenta but we are on opposite sides on this covid issue. This vaccine has NOT had time to be monitored for safety NOR has it been tested like former vaccines that SAVED LIVES. NO not at all. THIS covid issue is strictly political and strictly about controlling the masses IMO.


I'm not sure if you are an American citizen Magenta but if you are not., let me share that I am. And again., I've NEVER been FORCED to inject my body (as an adult) with ANYTHING in all my adult years. This covid vaccine is totally different than the above vaccines you posted above.

I say again. if you feel this vaccine is a good thing.... by all means go for it Magenta. You are a grown up woman and have the ability to make your own choices. AND if you want the UPCOMING booster shots they are beginning to push upon the masses you have the right to TAKE those too. But I will NOT take them based on MY OWN investigation and viewpoints on this vaccine as A FREE AMERICAN CITIZEN ..... I am convinced in my own heart these vaccines are NOT for me. I would NOT even TRY to mandate OR VIRTUE SIGNAL MY opinion on ANYONE especially in this volatile POLITICAL atmosphere in our country.

 

[AandW]

Yes, Trump, Pence, and many other people such as Abbot and DeSantes support the vaccine and believe it is life-saving.

But some how, the Followers of Trump/Pence believe Trump/Pence boycotted the Vaccine.
If they were [true] Followers of Trump, as they proudly display, they would be Vaccinated like Trump himself and Pence are.

 

[AandW]

The problem is, people will seal their lips to Trump's backside AS LONG AS HE SPEAKS WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR. As soon as Trump says something they don't want to hear, they close their ears. It's not about who's right and who's wrong. It's all about who confirms what they already believe.

AMEN!

When you believe in a [LIE] to the degree you would consider Divorce over, God can't help you then!

 

[Magenta]

I have always liked and respected you Magenta but we are on opposite sides on this covid issue. This vaccine has NOT had time to be monitored for safety NOR has it been tested like former vaccines that SAVED LIVES. NO not at all. THIS covid issue is strictly political and strictly about controlling the masses IMO.

I'm not sure if you are an American citizen Magenta but if you are not., let me share that I am. And again., I've NEVER been FORCED to inject my body (as an adult) with ANYTHING in all my adult years. This covid vaccine is totally different than the above vaccines you posted above.

I say again. if you feel this vaccine is a good thing.... by all means go for it Magenta. You are a grown up woman and have the ability to make your own choices. AND if you want the UPCOMING booster shots they are beginning to push upon the masses you have the right to TAKE those too. But I will NOT take them based on MY OWN investigation and viewpoints on this vaccine as A FREE AMERICAN CITIZEN ..... I am convinced in my own heart these vaccines are NOT for me. I would NOT even TRY to mandate OR VIRTUE SIGNAL MY opinion on ANYONE especially in this volatile POLITICAL atmosphere in our country.

I am not sure how you have com to the conclusion that we are on opposite sides of this issue.

I simply provided info that shows vaccines have been mandated before...

To counter the appearance to the contrary that your post gave.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

In 1802, Massachusetts became the first state to encourage smallpox vaccinations. Forty-eight years later, it was home to the first school to require vaccination.

By 1900, nearly half of the states required children to be vaccinated before beginning school. By 1963, 20 states, Washington D.C. and Puerto Rico mandated a variety of vaccines for children.

In the late 1960s, efforts were underway to eradicate measles in the U.S. In the ’70s, states requiring the measles vaccine had incidence rates 40% to 51% lower than the states not requiring it.

Alaska and Los Angeles found themselves among the poorer-performing areas in that regard — forcing health officials to strictly enforce the existing requirements. source

The BIG difference is between State and Federal Government. The Constitution allows the States much greater room to implement safety procedures. All the federal government has control over in this area is the federal branches and military.

Healthcare is also in the private sector even though they wish to federalize this as well.

The executive branch has gained unconstitutional departments for years where they were never given power in the Constitution.

These are the main agencies of the federal government. The heads of these 15 agencies are also members of the president's cabinet.

• • U.S. Department of Agriculture
  • U.S. Department of Commerce
  • U.S. Department of Defense
  • U.S. Department of Education
  • U.S. Department of Energy
  • U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
  • U.S. Department of Homeland Security
  • U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development
  • U.S. Department of Justice
  • U.S. Department of Labor
  • U.S. Department of State
  • U.S. Department of the Interior
  • U.S. Department of the Treasury
  • U.S. Department of Transportation
  • U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs

A fun study to research is which departments are allowed under the Constitution versus which ones have the States (the people) give power over to the government.

 

[Angela53510]

If your lungs are that weak any flu can put you at risk. I'm assuming you don't think this is a reason to have an entire population masked. Masks used for prolonged periods can be bad for normally functioning, healthy lungs.

(Sorry to hear of your prolonged health struggle BTW)

I don't assume everyone should wear a mask, unless that is the law where they live.

What I object to is the lies saying people are dying from mask bacteria, when a mask has made my life so much better. And if people are wearing a piece of junk for a mask, not washing after each use, they have no one to blame but themselves!

Not all mask are bad for you. I get tired of the false sweeping generalizations! And no references or studies to show they are following the science, but ad hominem attacks and ugly name calling.

I just want people to stay healthy, both people who must wear masks, and those who choose not to!

 

[shittim]

wash your face diaper, exhale once into it and it already has your bacteria and gunk in it that you then beath back in. We weren't designed to wear face diapers andymore than lick our socks or shorts after we remove them.
YMMV

 

[PennEd]

None of these people had to die. Even if they got the virus they almost certainly would have survived and went in to have full, meaningful lives. Now they are dead because of the evil propaganda fed to them:


Anecdotal Comments of Death After the Jab Flood WXYZ-TV’s FB Post


https://uncoverdc.com/2021/09/13/anecdotal-comments-of-death-after-the-jab-flood-wxyz-tvs-fb-post/

 

[John146]

But some how, the Followers of Trump/Pence believe Trump/Pence boycotted the Vaccine.
If they were [true] Followers of Trump, as they proudly display, they would be Vaccinated like Trump himself and Pence are.

Trump loves Diet Coke...I hate Diet Coke. I’m not a Trump lover, just agreed with most of his policies.

 

[PennEd]

Trump loves Diet Coke...I hate Diet Coke. I’m not a Trump lover, just agreed with most of his policies.

These people are all about a cult of personality. Like loving Obama, regardless of how awful he was.


They simply can’t fathom that it’s not about Trump at all, but about the Constitution, and what is best for the AMERICAN people!

 

[joaniemarie]

wash your face diaper, exhale once into it and it already has your bacteria and gunk in it that you then beath back in. We weren't designed to wear face diapers andymore than lick our socks or shorts after we remove them.
YMMV

Gross...but true

 

[joaniemarie]

The BIG difference is between State and Federal Government. The Constitution allows the States much greater room to implement safety procedures. All the federal government has control over in this area is the federal branches and military.

Healthcare is also in the private sector even though they wish to federalize this as well.

The executive branch has gained unconstitutional departments for years where they were never given power in the Constitution.

These are the main agencies of the federal government. The heads of these 15 agencies are also members of the president's cabinet.

• • U.S. Department of Agriculture
  • U.S. Department of Commerce
  • U.S. Department of Defense
  • U.S. Department of Education
  • U.S. Department of Energy
  • U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
  • U.S. Department of Homeland Security
  • U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development
  • U.S. Department of Justice
  • U.S. Department of Labor
  • U.S. Department of State
  • U.S. Department of the Interior
  • U.S. Department of the Treasury
  • U.S. Department of Transportation
  • U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs

A fun study to research is which departments are allowed under the Constitution versus which ones have the States (the people) give power over to the government.

The BIG difference is our ONCE great country is now forcing it's citizens to obey mandates that are NOT nor have ever been CONSTITUTIONAL. If anyone even admits to OR identifies with President Trump we are criminals and crooks AND that is UNAMERICAN and UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

In my 63 years living in this wonderful country called America I have NEVER been forced to keep my FAITH., my opinions., my beliefs or my political standing a secret.... until NOW. THAT is the major difference Magenta and THAT is why this situation with mandating vaccines and masks is so evil. It's all about taking OUR freedoms away and making America like every other country in the world.....

 

[joaniemarie]

These people are all about a cult of personality. Like loving Obama, regardless of how awful he was.


They simply can’t fathom that it’s not about Trump at all, but about the Constitution, and what is best for the AMERICAN people!

It's called TDS and millions of people all over the world suffer from it because they have absorbed MSM as their measurement for truth.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The BIG difference is our ONCE great country is now forcing it's citizens to obey mandates that are NOT nor have ever been CONSTITUTIONAL. If anyone even admits to OR identifies with President Trump we are criminals and crooks AND that is UNAMERICAN and UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

In my 63 years living in this wonderful country called America I have NEVER been forced to keep my FAITH., my opinions., my beliefs or my political standing a secret.... until NOW. THAT is the major difference Magenta and THAT is why this situation with mandating vaccines and masks is so evil. It's all about taking OUR freedoms away and making America like every other country in the world.....

While it is nothing new in our country. This mandate by the president is new and troubling

They need to let this Go.

The vaccine should not even be on the news. It never was. If people wanted it they took it. If they did not no one complained (Well I was forced to take the measles as a kid. Even though my doctors said I did not have to take it) so like I said, it has happened before)

We need to put down our masks. Go out. And live our lives and open this country up. If people get sick, they get sick.

 

[JTB]

It's called TDS and millions of people all over the world suffer from it because they have absorbed MSM as their measurement for truth.

Trump derangement syndrome ... that's what you call folks who believe Trump no matter how bald-faced his lies are - right?