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Because God created our immunity to help our bodies defeat the workings of satan that extend into the physical realm.
Our bodies, which are created for God to dwell in.
Make no mistake, the vaxx program was years in the making and they are targeting a number of things, starting with our immune system.
Not for 'Good' as Romans 13 clearly states.
Prophecy fulfilled = "the days will come when they call good evil and evil good".
Check this out.
A clue concerning natural immunity being downplayed.;
A clue concerning natural immunity being downplayed.;
It seems we are fortunate then, that from this Study done in ^ May, 2021, there was a Study that Furthered into September, 2021 and we [SEEN] a change in what we once Assumed!
COVID-19 natural immunity versus vaccination - Nebraska ...
https://www.nebraskamed.com › COVID › covid-19-stu...
Sep 20, 2021 — If you've had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?
From the Article ^
COVID-19 natural immunity versus vaccination
Home Coronavirus (COVID-19) COVID-19 natural immunity versus vaccination
Published September 20, 2021
If you've had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?
The data is clear: Natural immunity is not better. The COVID-19 vaccines create more effective and longer-lasting immunity than natural immunity from infection.
"Natural immunity can be spotty. Some people can react vigorously and get a great antibody response. Other people don't get such a great response," says infectious diseases expert Mark Rupp, MD. "Clearly, vaccine-induced immunity is more standardized and can be longer-lasting."
A third of infections don't get any protective antibodies
Some people who get COVID-19 receive no protection from reinfection – their natural immunity is nonexistent. A recent study found that 36% of COVID-19 cases didn't result in development of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies. The people had different levels of illness – most had moderate disease, but some were asymptomatic and some experienced severe COVID-19.
"Vaccine-induced immunity is more predictable than natural immunity," says Dr. Rupp. The COVID-19 vaccines provide great protection from severe disease, hospitalization and death.
Natural immunity fades more quickly than vaccine immunity
Natural immunity can decay within about 90 days. Immunity from COVID-19 vaccines has been shown to last longer. Both Pfizer and Moderna reported strong vaccine protection for at least six months.
Studies are ongoing to evaluate the full duration of protective immunity, including the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
Real-world studies also indicate natural immunity's short life. For example, 65% of people with a lower baseline antibody from infection to begin with completely lost their COVID-19 antibodies by 60 days.
What about that Israeli study suggesting natural immunity is stronger? Infectious diseases expert James Lawler, MD, MPH, FIDSA, carefully evaluates the study design of the retrospective Maccabi Health System study in his Aug. 31 briefing. In the briefing, he identifies two concerning sources of error that were not corrected for: survivorship bias and selection bias.
Natural immunity alone is weak
One study compared natural immunity alone to natural immunity plus vaccination. They found that, after infection, unvaccinated people are 2.34 times likelier to get COVID-19 again, compared to fully vaccinated people. So vaccinated people (after infection) have half the risk of reinfection than people relying on natural immunity alone.
"Studies show that the vaccine gives a very good booster response if you've had COVID-19 before," says Dr. Rupp.
Furthermore, there is no country on the globe in which natural infection and natural immunity has brought the pandemic under control. In countries like Iran or Brazil very high levels of natural infection have not prevented recurrent waves of infection.
COVID-19 natural immunity versus vaccination - Nebraska ...
https://www.nebraskamed.com › COVID › covid-19-stu...
Sep 20, 2021 — If you've had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?
From the Article ^
COVID-19 natural immunity versus vaccination
Home Coronavirus (COVID-19) COVID-19 natural immunity versus vaccination
Published September 20, 2021
If you've had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?
The data is clear: Natural immunity is not better. The COVID-19 vaccines create more effective and longer-lasting immunity than natural immunity from infection.
- More than a third of COVID-19 infections result in zero protective antibodies
- Natural immunity fades faster than vaccine immunity
- Natural immunity alone is less than half as effective than natural immunity plus vaccination
"Natural immunity can be spotty. Some people can react vigorously and get a great antibody response. Other people don't get such a great response," says infectious diseases expert Mark Rupp, MD. "Clearly, vaccine-induced immunity is more standardized and can be longer-lasting."
A third of infections don't get any protective antibodies
Some people who get COVID-19 receive no protection from reinfection – their natural immunity is nonexistent. A recent study found that 36% of COVID-19 cases didn't result in development of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies. The people had different levels of illness – most had moderate disease, but some were asymptomatic and some experienced severe COVID-19.
"Vaccine-induced immunity is more predictable than natural immunity," says Dr. Rupp. The COVID-19 vaccines provide great protection from severe disease, hospitalization and death.
Natural immunity fades more quickly than vaccine immunity
Natural immunity can decay within about 90 days. Immunity from COVID-19 vaccines has been shown to last longer. Both Pfizer and Moderna reported strong vaccine protection for at least six months.
Studies are ongoing to evaluate the full duration of protective immunity, including the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
Real-world studies also indicate natural immunity's short life. For example, 65% of people with a lower baseline antibody from infection to begin with completely lost their COVID-19 antibodies by 60 days.
What about that Israeli study suggesting natural immunity is stronger? Infectious diseases expert James Lawler, MD, MPH, FIDSA, carefully evaluates the study design of the retrospective Maccabi Health System study in his Aug. 31 briefing. In the briefing, he identifies two concerning sources of error that were not corrected for: survivorship bias and selection bias.
Natural immunity alone is weak
One study compared natural immunity alone to natural immunity plus vaccination. They found that, after infection, unvaccinated people are 2.34 times likelier to get COVID-19 again, compared to fully vaccinated people. So vaccinated people (after infection) have half the risk of reinfection than people relying on natural immunity alone.
"Studies show that the vaccine gives a very good booster response if you've had COVID-19 before," says Dr. Rupp.
Furthermore, there is no country on the globe in which natural infection and natural immunity has brought the pandemic under control. In countries like Iran or Brazil very high levels of natural infection have not prevented recurrent waves of infection.
From your article;It seems we are fortunate then, that from this Study done in ^ May, 2021, there was a Study that Furthered into September, 2021 and we [SEEN] a change in what we once Assumed!
COVID-19 natural immunity versus vaccination - Nebraska ...
https://www.nebraskamed.com › COVID › covid-19-stu...
Sep 20, 2021 — If you've had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?
From the Article ^
COVID-19 natural immunity versus vaccination
Home Coronavirus (COVID-19) COVID-19 natural immunity versus vaccination
Published September 20, 2021
If you've had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?
The data is clear: Natural immunity is not better. The COVID-19 vaccines create more effective and longer-lasting immunity than natural immunity from infection.
The takeaway: Get vaccinated, even if you've had COVID-19. Vaccine immunity is stronger than natural immunity.
- More than a third of COVID-19 infections result in zero protective antibodies
- Natural immunity fades faster than vaccine immunity
- Natural immunity alone is less than half as effective than natural immunity plus vaccination
"Natural immunity can be spotty. Some people can react vigorously and get a great antibody response. Other people don't get such a great response," says infectious diseases expert Mark Rupp, MD. "Clearly, vaccine-induced immunity is more standardized and can be longer-lasting."
A third of infections don't get any protective antibodies
Some people who get COVID-19 receive no protection from reinfection – their natural immunity is nonexistent. A recent study found that 36% of COVID-19 cases didn't result in development of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies. The people had different levels of illness – most had moderate disease, but some were asymptomatic and some experienced severe COVID-19.
"Vaccine-induced immunity is more predictable than natural immunity," says Dr. Rupp. The COVID-19 vaccines provide great protection from severe disease, hospitalization and death.
Natural immunity fades more quickly than vaccine immunity
Natural immunity can decay within about 90 days. Immunity from COVID-19 vaccines has been shown to last longer. Both Pfizer and Moderna reported strong vaccine protection for at least six months.
Studies are ongoing to evaluate the full duration of protective immunity, including the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
Real-world studies also indicate natural immunity's short life. For example, 65% of people with a lower baseline antibody from infection to begin with completely lost their COVID-19 antibodies by 60 days.
What about that Israeli study suggesting natural immunity is stronger? Infectious diseases expert James Lawler, MD, MPH, FIDSA, carefully evaluates the study design of the retrospective Maccabi Health System study in his Aug. 31 briefing. In the briefing, he identifies two concerning sources of error that were not corrected for: survivorship bias and selection bias.
Natural immunity alone is weak
One study compared natural immunity alone to natural immunity plus vaccination. They found that, after infection, unvaccinated people are 2.34 times likelier to get COVID-19 again, compared to fully vaccinated people. So vaccinated people (after infection) have half the risk of reinfection than people relying on natural immunity alone.
"Studies show that the vaccine gives a very good booster response if you've had COVID-19 before," says Dr. Rupp.
Furthermore, there is no country on the globe in which natural infection and natural immunity has brought the pandemic under control. In countries like Iran or Brazil very high levels of natural infection have not prevented recurrent waves of infection.
"""Summary
What is already known about this topic?
Reinfection with human coronaviruses, including SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, has been documented. Currently, limited evidence concerning the protection afforded by vaccination against reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 is available."""
Huh?
Folks we are being duped
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Godsgirl83
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My husband battled this nearly a year ago (last Thanksgiving).
We have not shared some of the more personal attacks in the Spirit with many people,
but what you are describing is VERY similar to how he has described it- and what I witnessed.
He could not smell ANYTHING, but at one point he came out of our room trying to rush down stairs with as much strength as he could put out...(which wasn't very much- he was slumped over, holding the hand rail and leaning on the wall, I had to rush up to him because I thought he was going to fall and stumble down the stairs. )
He was yelling (with as much strength as he had-you could hear how weak in the flesh his voice was, and yet some how still sounded strong and authoritative) He was yelling to get the kids and get out because there was a bad a fire (he insisted he was smelling a strong smoke)
I kept telling him that there was no fire... he kept insisting that there was, and when he finally made it down stairs and saw that all was fine he asked if I had lit a candle or something (still insisting he smelled smoke), no candle- he asked who was playing with matches because he smelled a strong smoke (something our kids know NOT to do, and would not ever attempt to).
To a natural eye, he appeared to be delirious.
It wasn't to long after I got him back up to bed that a friend (who is a minister) called to check in, we had some powerful prayer time over the phone, got hubs settled and back to sleep. A few hours later when he woke up he was (somewhat) back to normal, but somehow confused by the whole event, but realized that it was indeed a BIG spiritual attack.
He also at one point described smelling scents WORSE than the nasty incense often smelled in (especially in the real bad ran down) gas stations.
I can not tell you how many times he stated (before the smoke incident) that he no longer wanted to be here, and that maybe the Lord would just take him home
It was indeed an attack from the very depths of hell!!!!!!
Absolutely,
I can relate and understand what your wife must have went through during that time, and I pray that this trial is a testimony to her of how great and powerful our God is!!! I pray this strengthens her faith and that she realizes that the fear it produced in her is also an attack in the spirit, and that she goes forward from here on with out fear.
Praising Jesus for your healing and praying for you & your wife moving forward.
WowMy husband battled this nearly a year ago (last Thanksgiving).
We have not shared some of the more personal attacks in the Spirit with many people,
but what you are describing is VERY similar to how he has described it- and what I witnessed.
He could not smell ANYTHING, but at one point he came out of our room trying to rush down stairs with as much strength as he could put out...(which wasn't very much- he was slumped over, holding the hand rail and leaning on the wall, I had to rush up to him because I thought he was going to fall and stumble down the stairs. )
He was yelling (with as much strength as he had-you could hear how weak in the flesh his voice was, and yet some how still sounded strong and authoritative) He was yelling to get the kids and get out because there was a bad a fire (he insisted he was smelling a strong smoke)
I kept telling him that there was no fire... he kept insisting that there was, and when he finally made it down stairs and saw that all was fine he asked if I had lit a candle or something (still insisting he smelled smoke), no candle- he asked who was playing with matches because he smelled a strong smoke (something our kids know NOT to do, and would not ever attempt to).
To a natural eye, he appeared to be delirious.
It wasn't to long after I got him back up to bed that a friend (who is a minister) called to check in, we had some powerful prayer time over the phone, got hubs settled and back to sleep. A few hours later when he woke up he was (somewhat) back to normal, but somehow confused by the whole event, but realized that it was indeed a BIG spiritual attack.
He also at one point described smelling scents WORSE than the nasty incense often smelled in (especially in the real bad ran down) gas stations.
I can not tell you how many times he stated (before the smoke incident) that he no longer wanted to be here, and that maybe the Lord would just take him home
It was indeed an attack from the very depths of hell!!!!!!
Absolutely,
I can relate and understand what your wife must have went through during that time, and I pray that this trial is a testimony to her of how great and powerful our God is!!! I pray this strengthens her faith and that she realizes that the fear it produced in her is also an attack in the spirit, and that she goes forward from here on with out fear.
Praising Jesus for your healing and praying for you & your wife moving forward.
I did not share this, but that night after the infusion , roll eyes., i went to turn the ac down the ac and my wife asked me something. I had no idea i was delerious. When i answered i screamed something at her. Then i think i started grabbing at the air above me. I remember everything going black with tons of white dots. It was a minute or so later( could have been longer) my focus came back and she was holding me up.
But i went coo coo for that moment.
My husband battled this nearly a year ago (last Thanksgiving).
We have not shared some of the more personal attacks in the Spirit with many people,
but what you are describing is VERY similar to how he has described it- and what I witnessed.
He could not smell ANYTHING, but at one point he came out of our room trying to rush down stairs with as much strength as he could put out...(which wasn't very much- he was slumped over, holding the hand rail and leaning on the wall, I had to rush up to him because I thought he was going to fall and stumble down the stairs. )
He was yelling (with as much strength as he had-you could hear how weak in the flesh his voice was, and yet some how still sounded strong and authoritative) He was yelling to get the kids and get out because there was a bad a fire (he insisted he was smelling a strong smoke)
I kept telling him that there was no fire... he kept insisting that there was, and when he finally made it down stairs and saw that all was fine he asked if I had lit a candle or something (still insisting he smelled smoke), no candle- he asked who was playing with matches because he smelled a strong smoke (something our kids know NOT to do, and would not ever attempt to).
To a natural eye, he appeared to be delirious.
It wasn't to long after I got him back up to bed that a friend (who is a minister) called to check in, we had some powerful prayer time over the phone, got hubs settled and back to sleep. A few hours later when he woke up he was (somewhat) back to normal, but somehow confused by the whole event, but realized that it was indeed a BIG spiritual attack.
He also at one point described smelling scents WORSE than the nasty incense often smelled in (especially in the real bad ran down) gas stations.
I can not tell you how many times he stated (before the smoke incident) that he no longer wanted to be here, and that maybe the Lord would just take him home
It was indeed an attack from the very depths of hell!!!!!!
Absolutely,
I can relate and understand what your wife must have went through during that time, and I pray that this trial is a testimony to her of how great and powerful our God is!!! I pray this strengthens her faith and that she realizes that the fear it produced in her is also an attack in the spirit, and that she goes forward from here on with out fear.
Praising Jesus for your healing and praying for you & your wife moving forward.
Question: What are the frequencies in your house?
Covid-19 is designed where it can be manipulated by frequencies, which is the reason for 5G and cell towers.
Do you live in close proximatey to these?
There are other frequencies as well including 4G and more.
They are sending frequencies thru the HDTV
Question: What are the frequencies in your house?
Covid-19 is designed where it can be manipulated by frequencies, which is the reason for 5G and cell towers.
Do you live in close proximatey to these?
There are other frequencies as well including 4G and more.
They are sending frequencies thru the HDTV
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Godsgirl83
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That sounds like stuff we went through too.
It could have been very easy in the natural to take his "outburst" personally and retaliate, but it was in those moments I KNEW beyond a shadow of doubt that it wasn't him.
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Godsgirl83
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actually, we live country side with very little towers or lines around (almost bought a great house that was right under power lines and near towers, but the Lord said ABSOLUTELY NOT, and to ensure we didn't - things happened around that possible sale to block/stop it) and every time I drive by that street I have to smile and remember Gods goodness.
Don't have modern tv, what we do have is "old school" and currently not hooked up to anything but a dvd player and vcr.
And our wifi service is an older device, actually very slow and sometimes sucks (crashes and I have to reboot several times daily)
I don't have a modern computer "smart" phone, (those "out dated" flip phones work fantastic still, and yes they are still available- had to replace ours recently, but the companies keep them locked in the back because they don't want people to know about them- words straight out of the sales mans mouth) but within the last year- year and half the signal in my house has been weaker.
Very little frequencies in our home. We don't even use the microwave often.
No, it is not Connected to the CDC, or Other Network hospitals outside the State of Nebraska.
This is their Independent Study like you read colleges [Harvard/Yale/Johns Hopkins/etc] do.
I found it interesting for the State of Nebraska only, this is what they discovered.
They ARE claiming Natural Immunity does in Fact Work.
They just found 1 dose with Naturally Immunity did have more benefits and the Immunity Levels were higher.
I am just posting that someone, I mean who is Nebraska Medical, but this is what they discovered in their State Studies.
i too rejected the 'dumb phone' and only use my flip phone
i do not know if you watched the videos of Chinese people ropping in the streets when the 'outbreak' first occurred in China.
China is ahead of us with 5G and this was there test run with the 'outbreak'
God created the much of what we see through frequencies.
The satanists know this and thus the creation of 5G, Graphine Oxide, other elements and the vaxx but not for the purpose to control, manipulate and destroy.
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Godsgirl83
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Do you think Covid, from how You and Godsgirl83 are describing, is a virus or an airbourne weapon that invaded your cell structure and attacked your inner being from inside out?
I thought me and mine were the only ones using that phrase
love it.
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i too rejected the 'dumb phone' and only use my flip phone
i do not know if you watched the videos of Chinese people dropping in the streets when the 'outbreak' first occurred in China.
China is ahead of us with 5G and this was there test run with the 'outbreak'
God created the much of what we see through frequencies.
The satanists know this and thus the creation of 5G, Graphine Oxide, other elements and the vaxx but for the purpose to control, manipulate and destroy.
Well
I contracted it in alabama.
Could have been high 5 g. I dont kno
Just a demonic concoction from hell.
Frankenstien freaks engineering it from animal viruses.
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