Vaccination

[Godsgirl83]

Your beliefs do not alter reality in the slightest.

neither do yours .......

 

[Moses_Young]

Interesting article on how the World Health Organization (WHO) has been caught out being less than honest on its position on the (lack of) safety of vaccines.

https://thehighwire.com/ignored-warnings-an-unauthorized-history-of-the-who/

 

[planitsoon]

Sorry but this post is longer than I anticipated. There are two approaches to health from what I see. One is to give the body the natural building blocks it needs to repair itself by using what God provided for us in creation, and as close in it's original wholesome form; the other approach is simply to suppress the symptoms of the illness with patented pharmaceuticals in the hope that the body will strong enough to kick in by itself but with often added bad side effects that are damaging for the organs as people cannot always properly detox from the chemicals. In the case of vaccines; adjuvents like aluminium (to create a stronger immune response), mercury (to preserve the substance), polysorbate 80 (to emulsify it all and penetrate the blood brain barrier) and of course human tissue, from aborted baby lung tissue and all sorts of animals DNA are not always to get rid off. While they know that for example sun light gives two thirds of our energy levels (food only 1/3) for the mitochondria and sets at sun rise our cardian rhythm; builds all our hormones between until 10am via the melanopsin (UV receptor) in our eyes and skin and that our lungs after the lungs is our second most important breathing organ, I don't believe for a second that God intended the skin to be penetrated with a needle (going straight through our biggest organ the interstitium). I do believe that our mouth is the entrance to put things into the body. (btw - see brain surgeon dr. Jack Kruse who teaches on the physics that is the foundation for biology, in his talk "Vermont 2017") When substances are injected straight into the blood stream, there is a higher risk for things to go wrong, especially because when it's an unnatural sustance like mercury ( the second most toxic metal in existence after uranium). It will mostly bypass the liver and kidneys, Gods filtering organs. While we get methyl mercury through the eating of fish, the form that is injected is ethyl mercury and studies have shown that it reacts much faster to get to the brain especially when the bbb is opened up by polysorbate 80. In this polluted world where heavy metals have been the biggest health threat since 1974 and are present not only in vaccines but also in our air, water and food supplies, it is no wonder that people are getting sicker and sicker. As we age the mitochondria slows down and with that the elimination of things in tissue and bones. Tumors are often also full of heavy metal and mental illness is often contributed by these metals. In 1986 Reagan signed the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act as pharmaceutcal companies were sued over and over but could now be immune from any litigation. The "Vaccine Court" as they call it in laymen's terms, which now has paid out 4 billion USD for vaccine injury and death (of which Hannah Poling was a famous one as she received 1.5 millon for becoming autistic) to the meager 1% of all reported cases. All illness goes hand in hand with inflammation as as this is the bodies first reaction to injury, including brain injury, so the name encephalitis or brain inflammation is probably more appropriate than the term autism I believe. Why do they allow to have only 2 part per billion of mercury in drinking water; when it's 200 pbb they consider it a toxic hazard and we need hasmats but they think it is perfectly safe to ad 25.000 ppb in flue shot? When our second child was vaccinated, my wife was asked to wait in the waiting for 15 minutes for any possible reactions, and yes, within 2 minutes our sons eyes glared overoff and we never got him back they way he was. She immediatly ran in the doctors office and they just had dropped a flask and was told, stay away, this is dangereous. My wife saw it was the same they used for our son so she said:" I have to stay away and you just injected my son with that!!?. He has a massive reaction!!. "He will be fine she was told". !!! Right. It took him many years to detox and recover from this damage. Then because we were just ignorant and you do what everybody seems to do, we then took our third son for his shot who had an even bigger reaction and ended up on the spectrum. He is still not healed, now 16 years old. I learned that many people have a DNA defect called the MTHFR gene which causes them to have chelation problems so their bodies react worse than others who have a fast redox and good working mitochondria. The name anto-vaxxers is more a smear name than anything else! Most of us were pro but due to injury we became ex-vaxxers. I think that Jon Pollings, the father of Hannah Pollings father, who is also a neurologist, will think twice to vaccinate his child again. Anyone studied Edward Jennings, the father of vaccines and how he lost his own son and the boy of the neighbours? Vaccination also doesn't equal immunisation. These two are not the same. They add the aluminium to create a stronger immune response and then look at the extra white blood cells the body makes in the process to proof it is working but, the same would happen if one injects a cancer patient with say, the HIV virus. The body will create extra white blood cells to start fighting the assault. In the end this all comes down to Pasteur's germ theory which is a half truth. Pasteur claimed that bacteria are our enemy but if that was true then everyone should get sick when exposed to it. If a sick person walks into a room of 12 you often find out that not everybody gets it. The difference is the immune system and internal gut-biome. hich is full of bacteria. Bechamp was correct at the time by pointing out that it is the health status of ones internal bacteria household that determins if a bacteria can make us sick or not. Big Pharma unfortunately is because of this germ theory mostly focussed on getting rid of whatever is deemed dangerous and disregards the fact that our bodies are made from the earth and that the closer a substance is ito it's original form, the easier it is for the body to absorb and use it. (bio-available) God didn't forget the immune system nor is illness a deficiency of pharmaceutical drugs. Nothing has changed since Medieval times. The witches back then are still the naturopathc and herbalists of today and those that prescribed urine, arsenic, and mercury are our modern so called physicians and haven't changed much at all. In 1685 Charles II what they today would call a stroke. They recorded the treatment here. http://www.aintnowaytogo.com/charlesII.htm Though things have sort off improved between 250.000-440.000 Americans still die every year unnecessary of modern health care https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html In regards to vaccines..I have read several good books on this topic including: "Desolving Illusions" from Suzanna Humphries MD who as a kidney specialist started asing questions and lost her career after patients of her often came down with kidney failure three weeks after a certain vaccinehttps://www.amazon.com/Dissolving-Illusions-Suzanne-Humphries-ebook/dp/B00E7FOA0U/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=400+vaccine+studies&qid=1586598348&s=books&sr=1-2 Then I read "Millers' review of critical vaccine studies (400 studies in total) https://www.amazon.com/Millers-Revi...vaccine+studies&qid=1586598248&s=books&sr=1-1. Lastly "Thimerosal, let the science speak" from Robert F Kennedy. All three were a great eye opener for my wife and I (especially Desolving Illusions and to learn about how filfthy and unhygenic (like India) eighteenhundreds actually were and then the ten studies that showed that many doctors and nurses don't follow to the schedule and 21 studies that show that most high educated class people are the anti vaxxers). It was interesting to find that at the time of the polio virus there were six other simular viruses going around like polio, for example the Coxsackie virus, that all could give paralisation but, because there was no proper diagnoses in place everything was just called polio just like the say for most people with cancer that they died of cancer while in truth, most of time the majority dies of the toxic side effects of chemo and radiation before the cancer takes them. My uncle who got laung cancer from asbestos decided against any treatent and lived aamazingly 4.5 years with it but died in agony as this fungus has frown in all parts of his body :-( I tried to reach him but because I emigrated 20 years ago I didnt get a chance. We reversed my wife's cancer all naturally now five years ago with black salve and the use of natural supplements as well but it took radiation protection in the bedroom so the body could repair itself at night and implementing what I learned in my training (taking out the WiFi and isolating the ELF's from the bedroom) to beat it completely. Anyway, that's off the topic of vaccines lol God bless

 

[JosephsDreams]

I don't know who you are, I've been on this site since late 2015, and for many reasons I don't come on here much anymore. I got an email earlier today saying someone commented in this thread, so I decided to see what they had to say. Not really expecting much, as most of the comments in the health forum threads are not provoked by information, facts or research, much less Gods truth.

Yours may be the most insightful and truthful I've ever read in the 4 and a half years I've been on this site.
Bravo and kudos to you sir for knowing your facts and sharing your experiences and telling v it the way it truly is.

God help us all in this post CV, mandatory vaccination world that is coming.

BTW, you probably already know this, but in case you don't, there are ways to detox most of the chemicals from vaccinations as long as it is done days before and shortly afterwards. Some things we can do on our own, others we need the help of a knowledgable sympathetic doctor who can prescribe certain nutraceuticals.

Of course its better to just not get them at all.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Joseph, did you get married? Because someone here announced it awhile back..

 

[Magenta]

Formatted and re-posted for @planitsoon

Sorry but this post is longer than I anticipated.

There are two approaches to health from what I see. One is to give the body the natural building blocks it needs to repair itself by using what God provided for us in creation, and as close in it's original wholesome form; the other approach is simply to suppress the symptoms of the illness with patented pharmaceuticals in the hope that the body will strong enough to kick in by itself but with often added bad side effects that are damaging for the organs as people cannot always properly detox from the chemicals.

In the case of vaccines; adjuvents like aluminium (to create a stronger immune response), mercury (to preserve the substance), polysorbate 80 (to emulsify it all and penetrate the blood brain barrier) and of course human tissue, from aborted baby lung tissue and all sorts of animals DNA are not always (easy) to get rid off. While they know that for example sun light gives two thirds of our energy levels (food only 1/3) for the mitochondria and sets at sun rise our cardian rhythm; builds all our hormones between until 10am via the melanopsin (UV receptor) in our eyes and skin and that our lungs after the lungs is our second most important breathing organ, I don't believe for a second that God intended the skin to be penetrated with a needle (going straight through our biggest organ the interstitium).

I do believe that our mouth is the entrance to put things into the body. (btw - see brain surgeon dr. Jack Kruse who teaches on the physics that is the foundation for biology, in his talk "Vermont 2017") When substances are injected straight into the blood stream, there is a higher risk for things to go wrong, especially because when it's an unnatural substance like mercury (the second most toxic metal in existence after uranium). It will mostly bypass the liver and kidneys, Gods filtering organs. While we get methyl mercury through the eating of fish, the form that is injected is ethyl mercury and studies have shown that it reacts much faster to get to the brain especially when the bbb is opened up by polysorbate 80.

In this polluted world where heavy metals have been the biggest health threat since 1974 and are present not only in vaccines but also in our air, water and food supplies, it is no wonder that people are getting sicker and sicker. As we age the mitochondria slows down and with that the elimination of things in tissue and bones. Tumors are often also full of heavy metal and mental illness is often contributed by these metals.

In 1986 Reagan signed the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act as pharmaceutical companies were sued over and over but could now be immune from any litigation. The "Vaccine Court" as they call it in laymen's terms, which now has paid out 4 billion USD for vaccine injury and death (of which Hannah Poling was a famous one as she received 1.5 million for becoming autistic) to the meager 1% of all reported cases. All illness goes hand in hand with inflammation as as this is the bodies first reaction to injury, including brain injury, so the name encephalitis or brain inflammation is probably more appropriate than the term autism I believe.

Why do they allow to have only 2 part per billion of mercury in drinking water; when it's 200 pbb they consider it a toxic hazard and we need hasmats but they think it is perfectly safe to ad 25.000 ppb in flue shot? When our second child was vaccinated, my wife was asked to wait in the waiting (area/room) for 15 minutes for any possible reactions, and yes, within 2 minutes our sons eyes glazed overoff and we never got him back they way he was. She immediately ran in the doctors office and they just had dropped a flask and was told, stay away, this is dangerous. My wife saw it was the same they used for our son so she said:" I have to stay away and you just injected my son with that!!?. He has a massive reaction!!. "He will be fine she was told". !!! Right. It took him many years to detox and recover from this damage.

Then because we were just ignorant and you do what everybody seems to do, we then took our third son for his shot who had an even bigger reaction and ended up on the spectrum. He is still not healed, now 16 years old. I learned that many people have a DNA defect called the MTHFR gene which causes them to have chelation problems so their bodies react worse than others who have a fast redox and good working mitochondria.

The name anti-vaxxers is more a smear name than anything else! Most of us were pro but due to injury we became ex-vaxxers. I think that Jon Pollings, the father of Hannah Pollings father, who is also a neurologist, will think twice to vaccinate his child again.

Anyone studied Edward Jennings, the father of vaccines and how he lost his own son and the boy of the neighbours? Vaccination also doesn't equal immunization. These two are not the same. They add the aluminium to create a stronger immune response and then look at the extra white blood cells the body makes in the process to proof it is working but, the same would happen if one injects a cancer patient with say, the HIV virus. The body will create extra white blood cells to start fighting the assault. In the end this all comes down to Pasteur's germ theory which is a half truth. Pasteur claimed that bacteria are our enemy but if that was true then everyone should get sick when exposed to it. If a sick person walks into a room of 12 you often find out that not everybody gets it.

The difference is the immune system and internal gut-biome, which is full of bacteria. Bechamp was correct at the time by pointing out that it is the health status of ones internal bacteria household that determines if a bacteria can make us sick or not. Big Pharma unfortunately is because of this germ theory mostly focused on getting rid of whatever is deemed dangerous and disregards the fact that our bodies are made from the earth and that the closer a substance is to it's original form, the easier it is for the body to absorb and use it. (bio-available)

God didn't forget the immune system nor is illness a deficiency of pharmaceutical drugs. Nothing has changed since Medieval times. The witches back then are still the naturopaths and herbalists of today and those that prescribed urine, arsenic, and mercury are our modern so called physicians and haven't changed much at all.

In 1685 Charles II what they today would call a stroke. They recorded the treatment here. http://www.aintnowaytogo.com/charlesII.htm

Though things have sort off improved between 250.000-440.000 Americans still die every year unnecessary of modern health care https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html

In regards to vaccines..I have read several good books on this topic including: "Dissolving Illusions" from Suzanna Humphries MD who as a kidney specialist started asking questions and lost her career after patients of her often came down with kidney failure three weeks after a certain vaccinehttps://www.amazon.com/Dissolving-Illusions-Suzanne-Humphries-ebook/dp/B00E7FOA0U/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=400+vaccine+studies&qid=1586598348&s=books&sr=1-2

Then I read "Millers' review of critical vaccine studies (400 studies in total) https://www.amazon.com/Millers-Revi...vaccine+studies&qid=1586598248&s=books&sr=1-1.

Lastly "Thimerosal, let the science speak" from Robert F Kennedy. All three were a great eye opener for my wife and I (especially Dissolving Illusions and to learn about how filthy and unhygienic (like India) eighteen hundreds actually were and then the ten studies that showed that many doctors and nurses don't follow to the schedule and 21 studies that show that most high educated class people are the anti vaxxers).

It was interesting to find that at the time of the polio virus there were six other similar viruses going around like polio, for example the Coxsackie virus, that all could give paralysation but, because there was no proper diagnoses in place everything was just called polio just like the say for most people with cancer that they died of cancer while in truth, most of time the majority dies of the toxic side effects of chemo and radiation before the cancer takes them.

My uncle who got lung cancer from asbestos decided against any treatment and lived amazingly 4.5 years with it but died in agony as this fungus has frown in all parts of his body :-( I tried to reach him but because I emigrated 20 years ago I didn't get a chance. We reversed my wife's cancer all naturally now five years ago with black salve and the use of natural supplements as well but it took radiation protection in the bedroom so the body could repair itself at night and implementing what I learned in my training (taking out the WiFi and isolating the ELF's from the bedroom) to beat it completely. Anyway, that's off the topic of vaccines lol God bless

 

[blue_ladybug]

What's sad about him getting married?

 

[Magenta]

What's sad about him getting married?

Who said it was sad? You assume too much, and are way off base. What is sad is that you do not take your own advice, by posing an inappropriate question in a thread and forum that has nothing to do with what you ask. If you find your nosiness too much to bear and must push uninvited into Joseph's personal life, why don't you write him privately?

 

[blue_ladybug]

Sorry Joseph. Carry on..

 

[planitsoon]

I don't know who you are, I've been on this site since late 2015, and for many reasons I don't come on here much anymore. I got an email earlier today saying someone commented in this thread, so I decided to see what they had to say. Not really expecting much, as most of the comments in the health forum threads are not provoked by information, facts or research, much less Gods truth.

Yours may be the most insightful and truthful I've ever read in the 4 and a half years I've been on this site.
Bravo and kudos to you sir for knowing your facts and sharing your experiences and telling v it the way it truly is.

God help us all in this post CV, mandatory vaccination world that is coming.

BTW, you probably already know this, but in case you don't, there are ways to detox most of the chemicals from vaccinations as long as it is done days before and shortly afterwards. Some things we can do on our own, others we need the help of a knowledgable sympathetic doctor who can prescribe certain nutraceuticals.

Of course its better to just not get them at all.

Thanks for that compliment Joseph. I know that one can detox from it and have even a friend who reversed for 95% her two full blown autistic children (took years) but haven't I myself haven't succeeded much do to the MTHFR gene. I did Nutritional Balancing for a while for Dr.L Wilson, probably the most natural way and bacisally a strict diet by eating three times a day cooked veggies (as that is easiest for the body to break it down) and this way to get rid of the mineral depletion most if not all of us suffer from, so the body can start detoxing the metals. In the periodic table these toxic metals often sit straight underneath a mineral and the body will take these if it has nothing else to keep going. Because I have had a bad diet for decades and have six kids in the house, it's hard to stay on course as there iare always grains, sugars etc in the house. ASEA is a redox liquid (a by products of APT) that speeds up the cell communication (cell transportation is the key to nutrition) and they saw a massive amount of heavy metals being dumped as my hair mineral analysis result showed high levels of iron, aluminim and manganese coming out, but, it's is $35 a week per person and I coud not afford keep taking it. I tried synthetics like EDTA but three days of this chemical plunged my immune system for a solid three weeks. Jim Humble has a MMS protocol for forced vaccination people so that is at least a good thing to look at. At the moment I try CH77 and my children all improved with it but I haven't as ussual seen much of an improvement. MTHFR is the problem. CH77 is suprisingly a full pharamceutical chelator but guess what, they used the frequency of it and put it in water so they side effects are not there with this homeopathic substance. Before I started assessing homes for microwave radiation and learning about frequencies via Geovital, I was taught that it was all occult and that Hanaman the inventor was dangerous. In that regards many Christians are still sadly enough in medieval times as well. I saw a Christian site where even chiropractors are thrown in the same pot. Stll happy that the AMA for tried and charged in 1987 for their 50 year witch hunt trying to destroy the industry. If people just look at the first episode of "The Truth About Cancer" on youtube, they would understand how this monopoly was set up in the early nineteen hundreds, via the Flexner Report :-( Billions of people have been taken captive by what I believe is the spirit of pharmakeia (means witchcraft). Christianity or lslam isn't the biggest religion out there I now often say. It's Big Pharma with literally bilion of followers who run straight away to their priests/doctors (don't feel condemned, I was a pill popper for decades myself) for help. While they do know that for example, a plain natural lemons are good to get rid of a cold, when anything worse than a cold happens, they go straight for petro chemical pharmaceutical drugs :-( I see my father as a prisoner of this war in that regards, and I cannot even give him the simplest things like turmeric (with warm milk and black pepper to speed up absorption by 20x) when he had an inflamed hip, as he is on blood thinners and it's very dangerous to undo his booby trapped state that has so many types of medication, and most of these are all for combating side effects. Even an earthing sheet he cannot sleep on to lower inflammation :-( When my wife came down with skin cancer we did everything at home for the first 12 months with black slave and she had holes in her back of 1,5 inch. We had used it before and it had onlt taken two weeks for the tumor to come up but this time it kept multiplying and so she was five hrs a day 12 months bedridden with me taking care of her. Then we finally went to a naturopathic who is also a GP doctor who gave us natural supplment and we managed to close the holes but it kept weeping. They took blood for a CTC or Circulating Tumor Cell test and that showed still cancer in her blood, that her DNA was damaged and her Melatonin production impaired. because in the instructions it said to be careful with microwave radiation devices I decided to turn off the WiFi at night and we slept better! So the net day I decided to also turn of the wireless dish on the roof where we receive internet from. Our sleep even improved more! That morning in May 2015, I thought to switch it back on mand my wife started crying for no reason. I tried to talk to her but nothing made sense so I had a hunch. I walked back and turned off the switch again and she scream crying. Ohhh, what have you done, I can feel this!! What? I told her that I just turned it off and she asked me if it had been on whole night and said no darling. I just turne dit on back then. So I turned it back on to verify and yes, she started crying again and I told her to walk into away from the house until she could not feel it anymore. We realized that she now suffered from microwave illness or electrohyper sensitibity syndrome (the prefered name from telecom as of course it's all in our heads). Te same doctor uses bio-makers for people to show this is a real impairment and in Sweden they have 250.000 on a government pension for this. Long story short. Three months later I went for a CT scan and I ended with the same thing. Had burning brains instantly. I learned that heavy metals are one of the main causes of this important and that people become basically a walking antenna for EMF and because we are 83% water and have a heart and brain that is electrical (4 pico amphere) we react whether we feel or of not, we are conductive (that's why they can use ECG etc on us) the blood cells and many other things are still affected. Watch Ubiquity from uitzendinggemist, to see an interview in English after 4 minutes in, with a old Erricsson scientist who has live deep in the bush because he and 55 of the other 57 scientists all become ill during their work in the eightees and in original footage from 1994 they show Swedish television and how Erriscsson did everything in their power to keep developing the mobile phone by shielding the houses and offices of these people. I am sorry to make it again so lng. Just thought to share a bit how I got onto the subject of heavy metals. Cheers.

 

[planitsoon]

Formatted and re-posted for @planitsoon

Sorry but this post is longer than I anticipated.

There are two approaches to health from what I see. One is to give the body the natural building blocks it needs to repair itself by using what God provided for us in creation, and as close in it's original wholesome form; the other approach is simply to suppress the symptoms of the illness with patented pharmaceuticals in the hope that the body will strong enough to kick in by itself but with often added bad side effects that are damaging for the organs as people cannot always properly detox from the chemicals.

In the case of vaccines; adjuvents like aluminium (to create a stronger immune response), mercury (to preserve the substance), polysorbate 80 (to emulsify it all and penetrate the blood brain barrier) and of course human tissue, from aborted baby lung tissue and all sorts of animals DNA are not always (easy) to get rid off. While they know that for example sun light gives two thirds of our energy levels (food only 1/3) for the mitochondria and sets at sun rise our cardian rhythm; builds all our hormones between until 10am via the melanopsin (UV receptor) in our eyes and skin and that our lungs after the lungs is our second most important breathing organ, I don't believe for a second that God intended the skin to be penetrated with a needle (going straight through our biggest organ the interstitium).

I do believe that our mouth is the entrance to put things into the body. (btw - see brain surgeon dr. Jack Kruse who teaches on the physics that is the foundation for biology, in his talk "Vermont 2017") When substances are injected straight into the blood stream, there is a higher risk for things to go wrong, especially because when it's an unnatural substance like mercury (the second most toxic metal in existence after uranium). It will mostly bypass the liver and kidneys, Gods filtering organs. While we get methyl mercury through the eating of fish, the form that is injected is ethyl mercury and studies have shown that it reacts much faster to get to the brain especially when the bbb is opened up by polysorbate 80.

In this polluted world where heavy metals have been the biggest health threat since 1974 and are present not only in vaccines but also in our air, water and food supplies, it is no wonder that people are getting sicker and sicker. As we age the mitochondria slows down and with that the elimination of things in tissue and bones. Tumors are often also full of heavy metal and mental illness is often contributed by these metals.

In 1986 Reagan signed the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act as pharmaceutical companies were sued over and over but could now be immune from any litigation. The "Vaccine Court" as they call it in laymen's terms, which now has paid out 4 billion USD for vaccine injury and death (of which Hannah Poling was a famous one as she received 1.5 million for becoming autistic) to the meager 1% of all reported cases. All illness goes hand in hand with inflammation as as this is the bodies first reaction to injury, including brain injury, so the name encephalitis or brain inflammation is probably more appropriate than the term autism I believe.

Why do they allow to have only 2 part per billion of mercury in drinking water; when it's 200 pbb they consider it a toxic hazard and we need hasmats but they think it is perfectly safe to ad 25.000 ppb in flue shot? When our second child was vaccinated, my wife was asked to wait in the waiting (area/room) for 15 minutes for any possible reactions, and yes, within 2 minutes our sons eyes glazed overoff and we never got him back they way he was. She immediately ran in the doctors office and they just had dropped a flask and was told, stay away, this is dangerous. My wife saw it was the same they used for our son so she said:" I have to stay away and you just injected my son with that!!?. He has a massive reaction!!. "He will be fine she was told". !!! Right. It took him many years to detox and recover from this damage.

Then because we were just ignorant and you do what everybody seems to do, we then took our third son for his shot who had an even bigger reaction and ended up on the spectrum. He is still not healed, now 16 years old. I learned that many people have a DNA defect called the MTHFR gene which causes them to have chelation problems so their bodies react worse than others who have a fast redox and good working mitochondria.

The name anti-vaxxers is more a smear name than anything else! Most of us were pro but due to injury we became ex-vaxxers. I think that Jon Pollings, the father of Hannah Pollings father, who is also a neurologist, will think twice to vaccinate his child again.

Anyone studied Edward Jennings, the father of vaccines and how he lost his own son and the boy of the neighbours? Vaccination also doesn't equal immunization. These two are not the same. They add the aluminium to create a stronger immune response and then look at the extra white blood cells the body makes in the process to proof it is working but, the same would happen if one injects a cancer patient with say, the HIV virus. The body will create extra white blood cells to start fighting the assault. In the end this all comes down to Pasteur's germ theory which is a half truth. Pasteur claimed that bacteria are our enemy but if that was true then everyone should get sick when exposed to it. If a sick person walks into a room of 12 you often find out that not everybody gets it.

The difference is the immune system and internal gut-biome, which is full of bacteria. Bechamp was correct at the time by pointing out that it is the health status of ones internal bacteria household that determines if a bacteria can make us sick or not. Big Pharma unfortunately is because of this germ theory mostly focused on getting rid of whatever is deemed dangerous and disregards the fact that our bodies are made from the earth and that the closer a substance is to it's original form, the easier it is for the body to absorb and use it. (bio-available)

God didn't forget the immune system nor is illness a deficiency of pharmaceutical drugs. Nothing has changed since Medieval times. The witches back then are still the naturopaths and herbalists of today and those that prescribed urine, arsenic, and mercury are our modern so called physicians and haven't changed much at all.

In 1685 Charles II what they today would call a stroke. They recorded the treatment here. http://www.aintnowaytogo.com/charlesII.htm

Though things have sort off improved between 250.000-440.000 Americans still die every year unnecessary of modern health care https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html

In regards to vaccines..I have read several good books on this topic including: "Dissolving Illusions" from Suzanna Humphries MD who as a kidney specialist started asking questions and lost her career after patients of her often came down with kidney failure three weeks after a certain vaccinehttps://www.amazon.com/Dissolving-Illusions-Suzanne-Humphries-ebook/dp/B00E7FOA0U/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=400+vaccine+studies&qid=1586598348&s=books&sr=1-2

Then I read "Millers' review of critical vaccine studies (400 studies in total) https://www.amazon.com/Millers-Revi...vaccine+studies&qid=1586598248&s=books&sr=1-1.

Lastly "Thimerosal, let the science speak" from Robert F Kennedy. All three were a great eye opener for my wife and I (especially Dissolving Illusions and to learn about how filthy and unhygienic (like India) eighteen hundreds actually were and then the ten studies that showed that many doctors and nurses don't follow to the schedule and 21 studies that show that most high educated class people are the anti vaxxers).

It was interesting to find that at the time of the polio virus there were six other similar viruses going around like polio, for example the Coxsackie virus, that all could give paralysation but, because there was no proper diagnoses in place everything was just called polio just like the say for most people with cancer that they died of cancer while in truth, most of time the majority dies of the toxic side effects of chemo and radiation before the cancer takes them.

My uncle who got lung cancer from asbestos decided against any treatment and lived amazingly 4.5 years with it but died in agony as this fungus has frown in all parts of his body :-( I tried to reach him but because I emigrated 20 years ago I didn't get a chance. We reversed my wife's cancer all naturally now five years ago with black salve and the use of natural supplements as well but it took radiation protection in the bedroom so the body could repair itself at night and implementing what I learned in my training (taking out the WiFi and isolating the ELF's from the bedroom) to beat it completely. Anyway, that's off the topic of vaccines lol God bless

Thanks for that Magenta I wasn't sure if I could do that without locking the post in, as I have sites in the past trying to start a new paragrah by pressng the enter button and then ended up posting it. Do you first write it is word and copy and paste it or can you do it in here?

 

[Magenta]

Thanks for that Magenta I wasn't sure if I could do that without locking the post in, as I have sites in the past trying to start a new paragraph by pressing the enter button and then ended up posting it. Do you first write it is word and copy and paste it or can you do it in here?

You are welcome, planitsoon Before sending any post through you can always preview first to see how it displays (more or less). The Preview button is beside Post reply Also, after initially posting anything, you have a five minute edit window/period during which time you could also delete the message if there is too much work to do in the time allotted. In a case like that I would suggest copying the text, deleting the message, and then pasting into a new message box to make corrections and/or additions

What I did to format your post was click the Reply button, and then removed the formatting for the quotes so that the entirety of your message would be displayed, and then I simply read through it and inserted paragraph breaks where I thought appropriate. I also made a few spelling corrections, as well as made clear it was a reformatted posting of yours, and not original content from me I am glad you don't mind, as I was trying to make it easier for others to read

 

[MattforJesus]

I don't know about poisons but I've heard there is a conspiracy behind vaccines. The illuminati is possibly behind vaccinations. I don't know what is their motive but maybe it is not only about money.

There is something more important to them than money, which they believe in the occult, and evolution, and believe they are still evolving to be greater and spiritual provided by the New Age Christ.

I believe they are using the coronavirus to give people that vaccine so they can track people, and to monitor the coronavirus, which will lead them to the mark of the beast.

Donald Trump introduced a biometric tracking system for those people on temporary visas that will be able to track people, land, sea, and air, because of all the people coming in the United States with temporary visas and do not leave and they have no way to track them, and 911 could of been avoided.

Which will be something placed just under the skin that can be scanned, and a tracking system that will help to cut down on crime.

Scientists are trying to find a cure for the coronavirus, and are thinking about nanotechnology.

Which the nanoparticles will attach to the virus and immobolize it and stop it from producing.

Nanoparticles and nanostructured materials have significant impact in many scientific fields, including chemistry, material sciences, physics, medicine and electronics.

Since the invention of the electron microscope they been able to explore and manipulate the properties of nanoparticles.

Future bio-nanotechnology will use computer chips inside living cells.

1 billion doses of the coronavirus vaccine to be produced by Johnson and Johnson and the US government.

Which testing will begin in September with the goal of having the drug ready under emergency use authorization by early next year.

Which Johnson and Johnson were working on a possible vaccine in January, 2020 using the same technologies it used for its experimental ebola vaccine.

But it will eventually go to those nanoparticles because they will say we tried this, and we tried that of conventional medicine but it does not work, so we will try these nanoparticles, as if to cause the people to believe they have no choice and they have to stop the coronavirus.

When they start giving the vaccine it will have those nanoparticles in it, small microchips that can track people, and everybody will probably be tested, but they may make everyone get the vaccine.

Which this will get people to get used to a microchip being in them, and being tracked, and that the microchip in a person can be a positive thing to condition them to prepare them for a bigger microchip being placed under the surface of the skin linked to satellite that is a better tracking system, and can cut down on crime for if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene, and can find lost people, and whoever they want to find for whatever reason.

Which this is the biometric system that what Trump was talking about.

The vaccine will lead them to that biometric system that Trump talked about.

This is what I believe will happen for it is hard to give people a chip to be tracked, but they can use the coronavirus as an excuse to do that.

And then in the future when the world is worse in chaos as the Bible says it will be, then they can use the excuse for a bigger chip in the right hand or forehead, a better tracking system to cut down on crime.

Which Trump said if they had a biometric system in place 911 could of been avoided, for if their temporary visa expired they could of tracked them down, and if they went to the airport they would of stopped them there, and not let them proceed to get on the plane until they thoroughly checked them out.

Foreign nationals arriving on temporary visas continue to go largely untracked by the federal government despite The 9/11 Commission Report pleading with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to implement a nationwide biometric entry-exit system, which would identify legal immigrants who have overstayed their visas and help in deporting them.

Eventually the world will be part of the biometric tracking system with a microchip in them linked to satellite.

 

[planitsoon]

There is something more important to them than money, which they believe in the occult, and evolution, and believe they are still evolving to be greater and spiritual provided by the New Age Christ.

I believe they are using the coronavirus to give people that vaccine so they can track people, and to monitor the coronavirus, which will lead them to the mark of the beast.

Donald Trump introduced a biometric tracking system for those people on temporary visas that will be able to track people, land, sea, and air, because of all the people coming in the United States with temporary visas and do not leave and they have no way to track them, and 911 could of been avoided.

Which will be something placed just under the skin that can be scanned, and a tracking system that will help to cut down on crime.

Scientists are trying to find a cure for the coronavirus, and are thinking about nanotechnology.

Which the nanoparticles will attach to the virus and immobolize it and stop it from producing.

Nanoparticles and nanostructured materials have significant impact in many scientific fields, including chemistry, material sciences, physics, medicine and electronics.

Since the invention of the electron microscope they been able to explore and manipulate the properties of nanoparticles.

Future bio-nanotechnology will use computer chips inside living cells.

1 billion doses of the coronavirus vaccine to be produced by Johnson and Johnson and the US government.

Which testing will begin in September with the goal of having the drug ready under emergency use authorization by early next year.

Which Johnson and Johnson were working on a possible vaccine in January, 2020 using the same technologies it used for its experimental ebola vaccine.

But it will eventually go to those nanoparticles because they will say we tried this, and we tried that of conventional medicine but it does not work, so we will try these nanoparticles, as if to cause the people to believe they have no choice and they have to stop the coronavirus.

When they start giving the vaccine it will have those nanoparticles in it, small microchips that can track people, and everybody will probably be tested, but they may make everyone get the vaccine.

Which this will get people to get used to a microchip being in them, and being tracked, and that the microchip in a person can be a positive thing to condition them to prepare them for a bigger microchip being placed under the surface of the skin linked to satellite that is a better tracking system, and can cut down on crime for if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene, and can find lost people, and whoever they want to find for whatever reason.

Which this is the biometric system that what Trump was talking about.

The vaccine will lead them to that biometric system that Trump talked about.

This is what I believe will happen for it is hard to give people a chip to be tracked, but they can use the coronavirus as an excuse to do that.

And then in the future when the world is worse in chaos as the Bible says it will be, then they can use the excuse for a bigger chip in the right hand or forehead, a better tracking system to cut down on crime.

Which Trump said if they had a biometric system in place 911 could of been avoided, for if their temporary visa expired they could of tracked them down, and if they went to the airport they would of stopped them there, and not let them proceed to get on the plane until they thoroughly checked them out.

Foreign nationals arriving on temporary visas continue to go largely untracked by the federal government despite The 9/11 Commission Report pleading with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to implement a nationwide biometric entry-exit system, which would identify legal immigrants who have overstayed their visas and help in deporting them.

Eventually the world will be part of the biometric tracking system with a microchip in them linked to satellite.

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Thanks for your post! This Technocracy as many call it, was cooked up as far back as 1930, when a group of people imagined to have a whole future civilsation being controlled by technology. We have been for 70 years in WWIII I believe, without knowing as it has been waged upon us in stealth mode. Ever watched Europa - The Last Battle? It's an amazing but very revealing series on bitchute that ties everything together and shows how these last few "crazy" years, that had so many taken by surprise including myself (climate change/transgenderism etc) was carefully planned since WWII.

After watching the interview with the ex-KGB agent Yuri Mezmenov a few years years ago I realized how much we have been compromised, especially in education when Reagan and Gorbatsov signed a deal to transform all Western Education to the Soviet model back in 1986. (See the Dumbing down of America ny Charlotte Iserbyt). That explains the toilet paper panic we recently saw and I do believe that the worldwide lack of iodine (which can cause mental retardation), the fluoridation of our water and WiFi which both makes people docile and the assault of endless CIA infected Hollywood doomsday movies (see Out of the shadow on youtube) also have contributed to see people going that nuts.

I cannot believe how billions are so gulable and rather die than think and have a look at the whole thing. It shows how far they have come. My pastor and father in law back in the ninetees told us that the Lord had shown him that millions were going to die and he was very worried about us (he passed away in 1998) and that they would try to control the people but would not going to succeed. The Church was the only force that oud stop it he said. The world has turned into mindless disciples of the pharmaceutcal industry and years ago I told friends that the biggest religion on earth wasn't Christianity or Islam, but Big Pharma. Sadly enough many Christians go straight for petro chemicals when they are sick too :-( and if the doctor can't help then give up on Gods healing, Seen it so often :-(

The elite has been able to brainwash the world via Khazarian owned Hollywood with their doomsday movies and at the same time this same group has brainwashed million of Christians into Dispensationalism/Zionism via the Freemason sponsored Scofield Bible to get the support in the White House. Schofield was such a fraud. :-( The melting pot of all nations became very real when PM Barnett, an Israeli military strategist with wikistrat wrote in his book in 2004 "The Pentagons New Map" that 'The ultimate goal is the co-ordination of all countries in the world, ... by the mixing of races, with the aim of a light brown race in Europe, to be taken from the Third World in Europe annually 1.5 million immigrants. The result is a population with an average IQ of 90, too stupid to comprehend, but smart enough to work ''Yes, I acknowledge the irrational arguments of our opponents, but should they resist the global world order, I urge We Shall Kill Them'

Europobia from Know More News show rabbi's saying how they use Islam as a broom to get rid of the Edomites or Christianity as they see us as descendants of Esau. Te white genocide is real and it is frighening how they can play just chess with the world. We need to come against this and pray that their plans will fall on their heads. The earth is groaning for the revealing of the sons of God I believe and it's high time. I agree with belated atheist Christopher Hitchens when he said that Christianity and Islam is obssessed with the death and the end of the world just as much as Kirk Cameron who stopped doing the scifi Left Behind series as he said in his documentary Monumental how letting go of the wheel would be working towards a self fulfilling prophecy. We lost so much and many important position in our societies to build and spread the Kingdom of God by the "rapturerists" especially after Hall LIndsey's book Late Great Planet Earth in 1970 that we lost to the ground to Globalism/Communism. While they have been waging a stealth WWIII since WWII upon us we have only been looking upwards and forgot to keep the car on the road.

 

[Kim82]

Formatted and re-posted for @planitsoon

Sorry but this post is longer than I anticipated.

There are two approaches to health from what I see. One is to give the body the natural building blocks it needs to repair itself by using what God provided for us in creation, and as close in it's original wholesome form; the other approach is simply to suppress the symptoms of the illness with patented pharmaceuticals in the hope that the body will strong enough to kick in by itself but with often added bad side effects that are damaging for the organs as people cannot always properly detox from the chemicals.

In the case of vaccines; adjuvents like aluminium (to create a stronger immune response), mercury (to preserve the substance), polysorbate 80 (to emulsify it all and penetrate the blood brain barrier) and of course human tissue, from aborted baby lung tissue and all sorts of animals DNA are not always (easy) to get rid off. While they know that for example sun light gives two thirds of our energy levels (food only 1/3) for the mitochondria and sets at sun rise our cardian rhythm; builds all our hormones between until 10am via the melanopsin (UV receptor) in our eyes and skin and that our lungs after the lungs is our second most important breathing organ, I don't believe for a second that God intended the skin to be penetrated with a needle (going straight through our biggest organ the interstitium).

I do believe that our mouth is the entrance to put things into the body. (btw - see brain surgeon dr. Jack Kruse who teaches on the physics that is the foundation for biology, in his talk "Vermont 2017") When substances are injected straight into the blood stream, there is a higher risk for things to go wrong, especially because when it's an unnatural substance like mercury (the second most toxic metal in existence after uranium). It will mostly bypass the liver and kidneys, Gods filtering organs. While we get methyl mercury through the eating of fish, the form that is injected is ethyl mercury and studies have shown that it reacts much faster to get to the brain especially when the bbb is opened up by polysorbate 80.

In this polluted world where heavy metals have been the biggest health threat since 1974 and are present not only in vaccines but also in our air, water and food supplies, it is no wonder that people are getting sicker and sicker. As we age the mitochondria slows down and with that the elimination of things in tissue and bones. Tumors are often also full of heavy metal and mental illness is often contributed by these metals.

In 1986 Reagan signed the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act as pharmaceutical companies were sued over and over but could now be immune from any litigation. The "Vaccine Court" as they call it in laymen's terms, which now has paid out 4 billion USD for vaccine injury and death (of which Hannah Poling was a famous one as she received 1.5 million for becoming autistic) to the meager 1% of all reported cases. All illness goes hand in hand with inflammation as as this is the bodies first reaction to injury, including brain injury, so the name encephalitis or brain inflammation is probably more appropriate than the term autism I believe.

Why do they allow to have only 2 part per billion of mercury in drinking water; when it's 200 pbb they consider it a toxic hazard and we need hasmats but they think it is perfectly safe to ad 25.000 ppb in flue shot? When our second child was vaccinated, my wife was asked to wait in the waiting (area/room) for 15 minutes for any possible reactions, and yes, within 2 minutes our sons eyes glazed overoff and we never got him back they way he was. She immediately ran in the doctors office and they just had dropped a flask and was told, stay away, this is dangerous. My wife saw it was the same they used for our son so she said:" I have to stay away and you just injected my son with that!!?. He has a massive reaction!!. "He will be fine she was told". !!! Right. It took him many years to detox and recover from this damage.

Then because we were just ignorant and you do what everybody seems to do, we then took our third son for his shot who had an even bigger reaction and ended up on the spectrum. He is still not healed, now 16 years old. I learned that many people have a DNA defect called the MTHFR gene which causes them to have chelation problems so their bodies react worse than others who have a fast redox and good working mitochondria.

The name anti-vaxxers is more a smear name than anything else! Most of us were pro but due to injury we became ex-vaxxers. I think that Jon Pollings, the father of Hannah Pollings father, who is also a neurologist, will think twice to vaccinate his child again.

Anyone studied Edward Jennings, the father of vaccines and how he lost his own son and the boy of the neighbours? Vaccination also doesn't equal immunization. These two are not the same. They add the aluminium to create a stronger immune response and then look at the extra white blood cells the body makes in the process to proof it is working but, the same would happen if one injects a cancer patient with say, the HIV virus. The body will create extra white blood cells to start fighting the assault. In the end this all comes down to Pasteur's germ theory which is a half truth. Pasteur claimed that bacteria are our enemy but if that was true then everyone should get sick when exposed to it. If a sick person walks into a room of 12 you often find out that not everybody gets it.

The difference is the immune system and internal gut-biome, which is full of bacteria. Bechamp was correct at the time by pointing out that it is the health status of ones internal bacteria household that determines if a bacteria can make us sick or not. Big Pharma unfortunately is because of this germ theory mostly focused on getting rid of whatever is deemed dangerous and disregards the fact that our bodies are made from the earth and that the closer a substance is to it's original form, the easier it is for the body to absorb and use it. (bio-available)

God didn't forget the immune system nor is illness a deficiency of pharmaceutical drugs. Nothing has changed since Medieval times. The witches back then are still the naturopaths and herbalists of today and those that prescribed urine, arsenic, and mercury are our modern so called physicians and haven't changed much at all.

In 1685 Charles II what they today would call a stroke. They recorded the treatment here. http://www.aintnowaytogo.com/charlesII.htm

Though things have sort off improved between 250.000-440.000 Americans still die every year unnecessary of modern health care https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html

In regards to vaccines..I have read several good books on this topic including: "Dissolving Illusions" from Suzanna Humphries MD who as a kidney specialist started asking questions and lost her career after patients of her often came down with kidney failure three weeks after a certain vaccinehttps://www.amazon.com/Dissolving-Illusions-Suzanne-Humphries-ebook/dp/B00E7FOA0U/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=400+vaccine+studies&qid=1586598348&s=books&sr=1-2

Then I read "Millers' review of critical vaccine studies (400 studies in total) https://www.amazon.com/Millers-Revi...vaccine+studies&qid=1586598248&s=books&sr=1-1.

Lastly "Thimerosal, let the science speak" from Robert F Kennedy. All three were a great eye opener for my wife and I (especially Dissolving Illusions and to learn about how filthy and unhygienic (like India) eighteen hundreds actually were and then the ten studies that showed that many doctors and nurses don't follow to the schedule and 21 studies that show that most high educated class people are the anti vaxxers).

It was interesting to find that at the time of the polio virus there were six other similar viruses going around like polio, for example the Coxsackie virus, that all could give paralysation but, because there was no proper diagnoses in place everything was just called polio just like the say for most people with cancer that they died of cancer while in truth, most of time the majority dies of the toxic side effects of chemo and radiation before the cancer takes them.

My uncle who got lung cancer from asbestos decided against any treatment and lived amazingly 4.5 years with it but died in agony as this fungus has frown in all parts of his body :-( I tried to reach him but because I emigrated 20 years ago I didn't get a chance. We reversed my wife's cancer all naturally now five years ago with black salve and the use of natural supplements as well but it took radiation protection in the bedroom so the body could repair itself at night and implementing what I learned in my training (taking out the WiFi and isolating the ELF's from the bedroom) to beat it completely. Anyway, that's off the topic of vaccines lol God bless

Magenta did you read through that long post?

I wish I could but it looks really intimidating. I don't think I can manage. But good job with the formatting.

 

[Magenta]

Magenta did you read through that long post?

I wish I could but it looks really intimidating. I don't think I can manage. But good job with the formatting.

Yes, Kim, I did

 

[oldethennew]

just a share for those who don't know or who haven't done their research:

our adopted' daughter, through Love, who is in her '50's, and works in a huge prison environment, just lately got 'really sick',
and she has been working the prison-'hospital' - anyway, she came by about a week or so ago on her lawn mower and we
exchanged pleasantries and such and we took her out back to the garden to offer her what ever she wanted; she
stayed on her lawn mower, anyway, 'here's the point, we exchanged our usual greetings, shared reading glasses,
cause I couldn't read the back of a seed planting instructions - after a while, she drove on home, and low and behold,
her mother called a few days later and told hub and myself that she had become really sick' - her mother told us that she
went and had the 'test' for the cv and they told her that she 'JUST HAD THE FLU'...she took several days off of work, but guess
what, she came by yesterday on her way home from cutting grass at her other property around the corner from us and began
to cut OUR over-grown lawn/GRASS... Her mother was convinced that she had the cv, even though her test proved otherwise = here's what we are trying to say, ' her Mother was convinced through listening to the media and was warning us to keep away from her, but, in reality, she JUST HAD 'THE COMMON FLU'...
like the SONG says, 'A man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest'...

heart-breaking to say the least: people, read the CDC's stats, for 'over-all-death-rates' for 2018-19 thru April,
and you will see that it is much 'higher than what it is for to 'today'...

(((the prince of the power of the air has gone into over-drive and is 'inspiring FEAR into the 'masses'))) - just LOOK at your
families and friends!!!...
it is written:
'Perfect Love casts out All FEAR'..., therefore let us all strive in our lives for 'Perfect-Love'...

 

[MattforJesus]

Speaking of vaccinations, Donald Trump suggested using disinfectants as a cure for they work to kill viruses on surfaces, so he applied that to inside the body, which they told him they will die, and Lysol said do not put this in your body.

It appears that Trump is playing stupid on purpose, so what is the reason.

Many people want population reduction, to dumb down the people, and to make a lot of money, and we know it is closer to the New Age Christ kingdom, and those type of people are working in the world to try to make it happen, so vaccinations might be part of it.

This woman appears to explain it well how vaccinations are not good, and how they are not necessary for the most part.

 

[Moses_Young]

This woman appears to explain it well how vaccinations are not good, and how they are not necessary for the most part.

They reject the good methods in scripture for health and disease prevention, yet try to impose man-made methods that are only prone to failure. Injecting pollutants into the body can only lead to pollution of the body.

 

[oldethennew]

just an 'up-date'; our loving, daughter/friend, (#97) called and told us that she has broken a rib from
coughing so much and had to go to a 'walk-in' because her doctor wouldn't call her back,
2nd time not calling her back for her emergency - not only a cracked rib, but also one
lung not fully expanded because she can't couldn't cough up and expel the mucus because
of so much pain - the 'walk-in doc' helped her where her regular doc did not -
also, she has had both 'shots', for flu and pneumonia - she will have to
continue to stay out of work for several more days...

hub had to make run to Publix today and he noticed that many 'more' people are wearing masks
than up until a few days ago when we last went shopping - we both do not wear masks or gloves,
simply because we know how strong our immune systems are from the way we eat and treat
ourselves, being taught of course by our Maker, The Giver and Taker of all we possess'...
this confidence that we possess is a real game changer in our lives, as we have and will always
continue to have our confidence and trust in God, by obeying His Commandments, and eating
according to Biblical principles which permeates everything and every way in our lives...
it took us a few decades to realize that God always knows what He is doing, and then
realizing/obeying our part in His doings...