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[douggg]

Well,your saying Jesus does not come when the dead are raised.

This is what I wrote:

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Those things take place during the time, times, half time that Satan will have left. And following Jesus's return - which does not happen until the end of the third woe.

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God's wrath will be poured out during the time, times, half time that Satan will have left. The time, times, half time that Satan will have left in Revelation 12:14 is after he is cast down to earth, and after the 1260 days of Revelation 12:6.

The great tribulation will be taking place here on earth, while concurrently in heaven before the bema seat of Christ the rapture/resurrected saints will be judged and rewarded for what they have done for Christ during their lifetimes.

When Jesus returns down to earth, them who remained loyal to Him during 1335 days long great tribulation, and managed to survive it, will be blessed to rule and reign with Jesus during the 1000 years - when He has brought the Kingdom of Heaven with Him to be the Kingdom of God ruling over the nations during the 1000 years.

Also when Jesus returns, He will resurrect the martyred great tribulation saints in Revelation 20:4-6, to also rule with Him during the 1000 years.

After the 1000 years are over, the rest of the dead will be resurrected and will appear before the Great White Throne Judgment.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Ahh alright maybe I don’t have the agreement with you I thought I did but lol who knows

what is it it that witnesses and prophets do ?

They are sent there to protect the prostitute.

What they do while they are there is kill their enemies by giving the command to "fire".



https://www.newsweek.com/christian-fundamentalists-us-armed-forces-national-security-threat-613428



They arrive in Israel 42 months before the time of the end..

Daniel 11:31
And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Ahh alright maybe I don’t have the agreement with you I thought I did but lol who knows

what is it it that witnesses and prophets do ?

5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.


Fire commands are oral orders issued by leaders to focus and distribute fires as required achieving decisive effects against the enemy. They allow leaders to rapidly and concisely articulate their firing instructions using a standard format (Refer to TC 3-20.31-4 for more information).


It's not God who sends these two prophets to save the prostitute.
Do you get the picture?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

They are sent there to protect the prostitute.

What they do while they are there is kill their enemies by giving the command to "fire".



https://www.newsweek.com/christian-fundamentalists-us-armed-forces-national-security-threat-613428



They arrive in Israel 42 months before the time of the end..

Daniel 11:31
And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

Okay

 

[Pilgrimshope]

5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.


Fire commands are oral orders issued by leaders to focus and distribute fires as required achieving decisive effects against the enemy. They allow leaders to rapidly and concisely articulate their firing instructions using a standard format (Refer to TC 3-20.31-4 for more information).


It's not God who sends these two prophets to save the prostitute.
Do you get the picture?

Not the picture your painting not at all but it’s alright

 

[oyster67]

Scripture does not say the two witnesses warn anyone.Scripture does not say the preach the gospel nor does it say they do anything good.

Scripture only says they kill people by saying "fire" and they torment people.

That is all it says.

Why do you think they are called the Two Witnesses???

 

[Shilohsfoal]

This is what I wrote:

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Those things take place during the time, times, half time that Satan will have left. And following Jesus's return - which does not happen until the end of the third woe.

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God's wrath will be poured out during the time, times, half time that Satan will have left. The time, times, half time that Satan will have left in Revelation 12:14 is after he is cast down to earth, and after the 1260 days of Revelation 12:6.

The great tribulation will be taking place here on earth, while concurrently in heaven before the bema seat of Christ the rapture/resurrected saints will be judged and rewarded for what they have done for Christ during their lifetimes.

When Jesus returns down to earth, them who remained loyal to Him during 1335 days long great tribulation, and managed to survive it, will be blessed to rule and reign with Jesus during the 1000 years - when He has brought the Kingdom of Heaven with Him to be the Kingdom of God ruling over the nations during the 1000 years.

Also when Jesus returns, He will resurrect the martyred great tribulation saints in Revelation 20:4-6, to also rule with Him during the 1000 years.

After the 1000 years are over, the rest of the dead will be resurrected and will appear before the Great White Throne Judgment.

Satan doesn't have a time,times and a half after Jesus returns.

 

[douggg]

5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.


Fire commands are oral orders issued by leaders to focus and distribute fires as required achieving decisive effects against the enemy. They allow leaders to rapidly and concisely articulate their firing instructions using a standard format (Refer to TC 3-20.31-4 for more information).

Shilohsfoal, I actually served 3 years in an artillery unit, in FDC (fire direction control), acting as a battalion FADAC (field artillery digital automated computer) operator. I personally gave fire commands to the three battery units, six howitzers each, to fire.

That is not what is meant by "fire proccedeth out of the their mouth". The two witnesses, prophets, were not part of military unit, issuing fire commands.

The fire that comes out of the two witnesses mouth, when attacked, will be a supernatural power they will possess.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Why do you think they are called the Two Witnesses???

The same reason they are called servants.

Mathew 24:48-51
But suppose that servant is wicked and says in his heart, ‘My master will be away a long time.
And he begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards.
The master of that servant will come on a day he does not expect and at an hour he does not anticipate.
Then he will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


Do you understand what it means to come in Jesus name?

Mathew 24
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.




There will be many who will arrive in Israel with the two witnesses who come in their masters name.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Shilohsfoal, I actually served 3 years in an artillery unit, in FDC (fire direction control), acting as a battalion FADAC (field artillery digital automated computer) operator. I personally gave fire commands to the three battery units, six howitzers each, to fire.

That is not what is meant by "fire proccedeth out of the their mouth". The two witnesses, prophets, were not part of military unit, issuing fire commands.

The fire that comes out of the two witnesses mouth, when attacked, will be a supernatural power they will possess.

There is nothing supernatural about the armed forces occupying Israel during those 42 months.

Daniel 11:31
His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.


I'm sure the mothers in. Israel would love to see these armed forces arrive so that their children won't be sacrificed.Many are dying as it is.

 

[douggg]

Satan doesn't have a time,times and a half after Jesus returns.

I never said Satan does. You are saying that Jesus returns before Satan is cast down to earth - by misunderstanding Revelation 11:14-18.

Put these in order. Before, after, or concurrent.

1260 days of the two witnesses, prophets.

1260 days of Revelation 12:6

the time, times, half time that Satan will have left

the 42 months rule of the beast

Jesus's return to this earth

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I will go first.


1260 days of the two witnesses, prophets. Concurrent with 1260 days of Revelation 12:6

then

the 42 months rule of the beast. Concurrent with the time, times, half time that Satan will have left.

then

Jesus's return to this earth

 

[oyster67]

Scripture does not say the two witnesses warn anyone.Scripture does not say the preach the gospel nor does it say they do anything good.

Scripture only says they kill people by saying "fire" and they torment people.

That is all it says.

Revelation 11:3
“And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.”

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I never said Satan does. You are saying that Jesus returns before Satan is cast down to earth - by misunderstanding Revelation 11:14-18.

Put these in order. Before, after, or concurrent.

1260 days of the two witnesses, prophets.

1260 days of Revelation 12:6

the time, times, half time that Satan will have left

the 42 months rule of the beast

Jesus's return to this earth

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I will go first.


1260 days of the two witnesses, prophets. Concurrent with 1260 days of Revelation 12:6

then

the 42 months rule of the beast. Concurrent with the time, times, half time that Satan will have left.

then

Jesus's return to this earth

The 42 months the two horns occupy Jerusalem are concurrent with the 42 months reign of the beast.

Then Christ comes and those two horns are cast into a lake of fire with the beast.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Revelation 11:3
“And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.”

Yes they prophesy the same amount of time for the exact same time the false prophet prophesy.

Jerimiah 14:14
Then the LORD said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.


Just because a prophet prophesy doesn't mean it's the truth.

 

[oyster67]

Yes they prophesy the same amount of time for the exact same time the false prophet prophesy.

Jerimiah 14:14
Then the LORD said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.


Just because a prophet prophesy doesn't mean it's the truth.

You seem to question every answer just for the pure joy of being obstinate. I am finished with you. Get your kicks on someone else's time.

 

[douggg]

The 42 months the two horns occupy Jerusalem are concurrent with the 42 months reign of the beast.

Then Christ comes and those two horns are cast into a lake of fire with the beast.

Your order presentation is incomplete. Try again.


1260 days of the two witnesses, prophets.

1260 days of Revelation 12:6

the time, times, half time that Satan will have left

the 42 months rule of the beast

Jesus's return to this earth

 

[Shilohsfoal]

You seem to question every answer just for the pure joy of being obstinate. I am finished with you. Get your kicks on someone else's time.

I'm quoting scripture concerning the two prophets which is the topic.
Perhaps you should find another topic.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Your order presentation is incomplete. Try again.


1260 days of the two witnesses, prophets.

1260 days of Revelation 12:6

the time, times, half time that Satan will have left

the 42 months rule of the beast

Jesus's return to this earth

It's not incomplete.

I don't need to add anything to the scripture.
The forty two months is complete

 

[douggg]

It's not incomplete.

I don't need to add anything to the scripture.
The forty two months is complete

Your presentation is incomplete because you did not include all of the time frames. I will highlight in blue the ones that you did not include. Try again. This time include all of the time frames in your order list. before, after, or concurrent.

1260 days of the two witnesses, prophets.

1260 days of Revelation 12:6

the time, times, half time that Satan will have left

the 42 months rule of the beast

Jesus's return to this earth

 

[douggg]

1260 days of the two witnesses, prophets. Concurrent with 1260 days of Revelation 12:6
then
the 42 months rule of the beast. Concurrent with the time, times, half time that Satan will have left.
then
Jesus's return to this earth