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There is nothing figurative about the abomination that causes Jerusalems desolation.
Just like the day the king of the norths armed forces made Hiroshima desolate.
If you are following the blind Jewish perspective then your not going to be understanding very much.sir the Jewish perspective of gog and magog is it may not need to happen. Or might not happen
But we as civilization could make it happen
Do you even know gog and magog is not speaking of two separate people
If the word of God says that Gog,Ethiopia and Lybia will come against the people of Israel after the resurrection of Israel then it is sure to take place .It doesn't matter what the Jews believe.
well the Jewish perspective of end times is exactly how most of the end times beliefs unfold.
So your following it whether you like it or not
I never said the abomination was figurative. There were real armies that surrounded Jerusalem. I said the language depicting nature was figurative.
And where can I find Hiroshima in the Bible?
You won't find Hiroshima in the bible.The kings of the north doesn't go back quite that far from the time of the end in Daniel 11.It only goes back as far as Reagon.Truman is still a predecessor of Donald Trump though.Dont you agree?
The most common Jewish perspective is that the Messiah has not come and that Jesus was a false prophet.Do you agree with that Jewish perspective?
Remember we were talking about prophetic timeline and how to spot them ? I was trying to show you something regarding Daniel and the rest of the Bible just way off subject lol trying to clarify something I thought was important about timelines in prophecy
i give up lol
I don't see any modern events or people as part of biblical prophesy.
Truman was a predecessor in time to Trump, but I don't believe Trump will use nukes if elected. I'm usually up for a good conspiracy, but you will need to connect a lot more dots before I put on my tin foil hat.
“And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; ( rome destroyed Jerusalem and it’s temple shortly after in ad 70 )
and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”( it’s been almost 2000 years since they possessed fully the land or built a temple for worship )
Daniel 9:26 KJV
“When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
”Matthew 24:15 KJV
“shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: “
“But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. ( the messiah came and was cut off )
When the Lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, ( Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 ad) which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, ( they are left without a kingdom in desolation because they rejected and killed thier savior and king the one and o my beloved begotten son of God thier messiah the treasure of God )
and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”
Matthew 21:37-41, 43 KJV
Well,just make sure your watching as Jesus commands and I'm sure you will see something soon enough.
I'm very surprised you don't believe Trump would use nukes on the enemies of the US and Israel after an attack on the US and Israel.Do you believe he would surrender the US to the middle eastern countries?
You believe the Lord of the vineyard came in 70 ad?“And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; ( rome destroyed Jerusalem and it’s temple shortly after in ad 70 )
and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”( it’s been almost 2000 years since they possessed fully the land or built a temple for worship )
Daniel 9:26 KJV
“When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
Matthew 24:15 KJV
“shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: “
“But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. ( the messiah came and was cut off )
When the Lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, ( Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 ad) which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, ( they are left without a kingdom in desolation because they rejected and killed thier savior and king the one and o my beloved begotten son of God thier messiah the treasure of God )
and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”
Matthew 21:37-41, 43 KJV
Did he stand on the mt of olives?
honestly yours discussing prophecies that has come from Jewish beliefs before the return of the lord in the flesh.
What the Jews believe about other topics doesn't negate from the fact your still following a Jewish belief
I do believe he would use them in the event others employed theirs first. But Trump is in the Reagan mold...peace through strength. Russia invaded during the Obama and Biden regimes, not Trump's. China saber-rattles and sends spy balloons while Biden is commander-in-chief, not Trump.
Authoritarian leaders view acquiescence as weakness, not friendship. They stop when they are smacked in the face and not through negotiation. They only understand and respect strength.
Not really.The word of God is not a Jewish belief.It is the word of God.After you have received the spirit of God ,you don't question the word of God.You simply try to understand it.All.of it.
But your saying Trump would not show strength.Your the one saying you don't believe he would use nukes which is strength.If you don't believe he would use nukes after being attacked nor do you believe he would prevent anyone from getting Israel's nukes,then he would not be a very strong president would he?
The king of the north who is attacked in Daniel 11,doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would be a pushover nor does Trump appear to be a pushover.
I don't think anyone would have to use a nuke to get Trump to use his.I think if ten Muslim countries attacked the US under his watch ,he would wipe them off the face of the earth in a heart beat.
Do you think it's possible that you could have seen modern events and not had known they were prophecy?
so you haven't been discussing a world wide war that the jews believe might happen oh, ok then I must be blind