Unlawful orders

[Dude653]

Again depends on the unlawful order and how it matches the threat of my imprisonment against the hypothetical primers being able to carry out the hypothetical threat. So for example you say Jan 6th and Mike Pence, well that's not an unlawful order hate to break the news to you, nor was it unlawful for Pence to certifiy it either, though controversial so it's not really analgous to your hypothetical, it's not something I would go to prison for if I chose to ignore the primer or, more righteously, seek to destroy them to defend the innocent and the righteous of course.

yes it was an unlawful order as Pence had no constitutional authority to do so

you keep trying to add stipulations to the hypothetical unlawful order situation

 

[SonJudgment]

yes it was an unlawful order as Pence had no constitutional authority to do so

you keep trying to add stipulations to the hypothetical unlawful order situation

It wasn't, electors can technically change their mind, I was also selected as an elector for my state, we're aware of it, but encouraged highly not to do it of course, but it is not illegal technically so it's not an unlawful order. Additionally it's maybe not even an order period, seems more just like some off the cuff statement by Trump or at least that's how it was interpretted rather than a formal order.

Not really, your hypothetical is incomplete but it is useful to showing how non-hypothetically these traitors definitely cooked for a seditious conspiracy and for interfering with the military. and civillian government in such a way that they must absolutely be punished. As I said in the other topic, I don't think they really thought it out, and I interpret their sedition as more desperate and kinda pathetic, thus maybe we won't indulge Trump and rope them like the Constituton demands in the strictest nonreligious pov, though he might have a valid point that they should be, but Terre Haute and the CIA pop music playlist put on loop for a decade should be sufficient.

 

[SonJudgment]

yes it was an unlawful order as Pence had no constitutional authority to do so

you keep trying to add stipulations to the hypothetical unlawful order situation

Try to think of it more coldly, almost mathematically like a formula. In the hypothetical we need the Priming and the Primers (disobey unlawful orders) + the threat (imprisonment) / the chance of the primers success to overthrow the chain of command = the logical but hypothetical solution (rat out the traitors and kill them now that they have proven to be a real threat and to be compromised and deluded vs. side with them and aid them to overthrow the US military and government.)

Hence where for Jan 6th actually that makes you real suspect cause that's even a case of mercy was shown to you after you already got overthrown and you made a mockery of mercy and spited to reform, so yea you're cooked it's not even just that Trump will quash you, bu the Far Left just take your place, the traitors are unneccessary they will never carry their threat out upon me ever.

Now to be more like indulgent towards you where you want to go in more genuinely innocent terms say the primer is the whole Cabinet and the priming, the unlawful orders, be Trump commands to like commit genocide straight up literally Hitler the full monty and meme of it just for the sake of hypothetical, plus the threat of imprisonment (which frankly you don't even have to make the threat at that point I would add) and divided by the primers (Cabinet) chance of success (for a Cabinet no confidence overthrow which is btw legal) and yea I could see a solution that equals to what you are wanting hypothetically where it be like I'll rock with the revolution. But that is of course just hypothetically speaking where anything is possible hypothetically.

 

[Dude653]

Try to think of it more coldly, almost mathematically like a formula. In the hypothetical we need the Priming and the Primers (disobey unlawful orders) + the threat (imprisonment) / the chance of the primers success to overthrow the chain of command = the logical but hypothetical solution (rat out the traitors and kill them now that they have proven to be a real threat and to be compromised and deluded vs. side with them and aid them to overthrow the US military and government.)

Hence where for Jan 6th actually that makes you real suspect cause that's even a case of mercy was shown to you after you already got overthrown and you made a mockery of mercy and spited to reform, so yea you're cooked it's not even just that Trump will quash you, bu the Far Left just take your place, the traitors are unneccessary they will never carry their threat out upon me ever.

Now to be more like indulgent towards you where you want to go in more genuinely inoocent terms say the primer is the whle Cabinet and the priming, the unlawful orders, be Trump commands to like commit genocide straight up literally Hitler the full monty and meme of it just for the sake of hypothetical, plus the threat of imprisonment (which frankly you don't even have to make the threat at that point I would add) and divided by the primers (Cabinet) chance of success (for a Cabinet no confidence overthrow which is btw legal) and yea I could see a solution that equals to what you are wanting hypothetically where it be like I'll rock with the revolution. But that is of course just hypothetically speaking where anything is possible hypothetically.

you're either trolling or just autistic because you keep repeating the same irrelevant results all over and over.


there has been no sedition, there has been no attempt to overthrow the government.

they said place they suggested that if you are given an unlawful order, you can challenge it.

 

[SonJudgment]

you're either trolling or just autistic because you keep repeating the same irrelevant results all over and over.


there has been no sedition, there has been no attempt to overthrow the government.

they said place they suggested that if you are given an unlawful order, you can challenge it.

There has been no unlawful order, so no sir, several high profile intelligence officers and Senators even just attempted a seditious conspiracy and cause general damage to the effectiveness of the armed forces of the USA. There's going to be a repercussions for this, again Tulsi Gabbard is who really is the official we await to weigh in on this since now the intelligence community as a whole has to be scrutinized most surely because of what these traitors have done and attempt to do. They couldn't just learn man, and unfortunately for them they're also highly replaceable, no longer needed, and the Far Left we get along with far better.

 

[Howdy]

Here's the PSA that the six senators published about not obeying unlawful orders; I just wanted to make a couple comments about it. It seems to have maga in an uproar, but for no good reason in my opinion. First there's the "show us the unlawful orders" argument. That's irrelevant and a distraction because the PSA didn't tell anyone to disobey any specific order. But if a specific order is needed, one look no further than the unlawful deployment of the military against Americans on US soil. That's clearly unconstitutional and illegal. The federal courts have already ruled that the Donald has to cut it out. Then there's the argument that the PSA encourages troops to disobey orders. That's simply a lie as anyone can plainly see from the PSA. It says no one is under any obligation to obey unlawful orders.

How many American citizens has the military arrested.
It seems to me they are arresting non-citizens who broke the law by entering this country illegally.
Now when American citizens, who are aiding these criminals, attack them they have a right to defend themselves

 

[ZNP]

The six democrats making a PSA to disobey illegal orders without actually identifying the illegal order that should be disobeyed is like someone shouting fire in a theater when there is no fire.

 

[ResidentAlien]

How many American citizens has the military arrested.
It seems to me they are arresting non-citizens who broke the law by entering this country illegally.
Now when American citizens, who are aiding these criminals, attack them they have a right to defend themselves

The arrest of American citizens is another topic. The Donald promised that the worst of the worse would be arrested and deported; however, what ICE has done is go down the path of least resistance to get the numbers they want. If they're brown and have an accent, that'll do.

But simply deploying the military on US soil for the purpose of policing is unconstitutional, no one has to be arrested.

 

[ZNP]

The arrest of American citizens is another topic. The Donald promised that the worst of the worse would be arrested and deported; however, what ICE has done is go down the path of least resistance to get the numbers they want. If they're brown and have an accent, that'll do.

But simply deploying the military on US soil for the purpose of policing is unconstitutional, no one has to be arrested.

You say this because you are not reading all the developments on the thread concerning Homeland security announcements. They are dismantling the drug cartels root and branch.

 

[SonJudgment]

You say this because you are not reading all the developments on the thread concerning Homeland security announcements. They are dismantling the drug cartels root and branch.

Lol they know, but it doesn't help them commit treason by facilitating an alien invasion and causing real material harm to America and trying to foment a race war. Sadly for them and happily for US these measures you detail thwarts their hopes, so praise Jesus.

 

[PennEd]

These democrats are traitors. Pure and simple. The Marxist “Christians “ here would be flipping out if a half dozen Republican Senators had given the same message to the troops under Obama.

 

[ZNP]

The Democratic party in Minnesota is the most generous* party in America.

JUDGMENT DAY... 70,000 Somalis "IN PANIC" as Trump Drops ALL SANCTUARY PROTECTIONS

*They have given over 1 billion dollars of tax payer money to criminals and Somali terrorists.

 

[ZNP]

These democrats are traitors. Pure and simple. The Marxist “Christians “ here would be flipping out if a half dozen Republican Senators had given the same message to the troops under Obama.

Treasonous Democrat Lawmakers Blindsided – Payback Time

 

[Charlesiii]

Here's the PSA that the six senators published about not obeying unlawful orders; I just wanted to make a couple comments about it. It seems to have maga in an uproar, but for no good reason in my opinion. First there's the "show us the unlawful orders" argument. That's irrelevant and a distraction because the PSA didn't tell anyone to disobey any specific order. But if a specific order is needed, one look no further than the unlawful deployment of the military against Americans on US soil. That's clearly unconstitutional and illegal. The federal courts have already ruled that the Donald has to cut it out. Then there's the argument that the PSA encourages troops to disobey orders. That's simply a lie as anyone can plainly see from the PSA. It says no one is under any obligation to obey unlawful orders.

Pretty sure these senators were silent when the military was deployed against civilians during Covid, similarly when the fraudulent 2020 election was certified, and they cried insurrection when peaceful citizens protested the fraud and went to jail for it without trial, some of whom were killed there. Therefore, these don't care about the constitution and are simply trying to cause sedition in the military for political purposes. This is war, they're far more guilty than the January 6 protestors - POTUS has every right to throw the book at them.

 

[ResidentAlien]

POTUS has every right to throw the book at them.

How so? Can you give me an example of something they said that was seditious?

 

[Charlesiii]

How so? Can you give me an example of something they said that was seditious?

SonJudgement posted it best.

https://christianchat.com/christian-news-forum/unlawful-orders.221434/#post-5631562

In wartime, different rules apply.

I don't like it, but the (last) opportunity to oppose this was during Covid, and it went unopposed. POTUS has, in my opinion, every right to treat these senators in the same way that the January 6 protesters were treated. "With the same measure you use, it shall be measured to you".

 

[ResidentAlien]

In wartime, different rules apply.

Wartime? What does that even mean? And it still doesn't answer the question of what they said that was seditious.

 

[ZNP]

Wartime? What does that even mean?

It is a period of time in which war is taking place.

 

[SonJudgment]

SonJudgement posted it best.

https://christianchat.com/christian-news-forum/unlawful-orders.221434/#post-5631562

In wartime, different rules apply.

I don't like it, but the (last) opportunity to oppose this was during Covid, and it went unopposed. POTUS has, in my opinion, every right to treat these senators in the same way that the January 6 protesters were treated. "With the same measure you use, it shall be measured to you".

I would note, this applies even when it's not wartime. The issue is it's not like some regular person like you or me or RA or Dude are calling for the military to rebel against the chain of command, and also the civiillian elected government, which could easily be dismissed even laughed off. It's that high officers of the intelligence and military community are priming the military and cultivating a pretty seditious conspiracy. Bottom line you cannot try to cultivate your troops as a high officer to rebel against America.

 

[Squigglylines]

I would note, this applies even when it's not wartime. The issue is it's not like some regular person like you or me or RA or Dude are calling for the military to rebel against the chain of command, and also the civiillian elected government, which could easily be dismissed even laughed off. It's that high officers of the intelligence and military community are priming the military and cultivating a pretty seditious conspiracy. Bottom line you cannot try to cultivate your troops as a high officer to rebel against America.

Where are you seeing these things in the news or some other source?