So it looks like those who apose the bondage of the will in mankind stems from a Roman Catholic called harass-moss
After watching this I am no longer a Sproul fan. I can see clearly now that he is a hard-core Calvinist
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After watching this I am no longer a Sproul fan. I can see clearly now that he is a hard-core Calvinist
No What's hiporcritucal here is you excusing yourself for your reason of talking about tulip everyday, and using my reason that after 3 months here everyday listening to you talking about a tulip.
I have finally started to talk about tulip with my excuse for talking about it , only your excuse is still somehow more valid.
Yep ok.
Err I don't think so.
It's upto you, but may I may remind you to make such a decision in a moment may not be wise, since you could of miss understood what he was saying,
Whatever that reason is.
he gives more thanks to Saint Augustine hardly ever talks about John calvin in his sermons, sorry your wrong. On the bases of we all know what is meant by the expression of hard core calvinist, and it's never a nice appreciation by skeptics
He repeatedly talks about how all people can be saved.
Your wrong about him
At one point Sproul made a very revealing remark. He made a distinction between striving for a holy life (Erasmus) vs not doing so and instead giving glory to God (Luther). Erasmus said that Luther's ideas would open up a flood gate of iniquity, and Luther wrote "So be it" because such gave all of the glory to God.
then you've clearly miss understood are you a Catholic may I ask ?
He said nobody wants God in there life anyway, and they flee from God, so he said we should teach what his word says,
harras-moss was suggesting it would lead to iniquity, Augustine never said that, harass-moss did,
So Augustine said then so be it if that's what you think all tho he meant it wouldn't lead to iniquity, it would lead to the truth , he never said he wanted iniquity, he was responding to his allegations.
IMO this is the essence of gnosticism, ie, focusing on spiritual things without regard to behavior. In other words, sinful behavior doesn't matter because the only thing that matters is giving glory to God
your leading from your premise there not Augustine's.
Augustine's premise was to defend the true character of God against harras-moss interpretation of the character of God and his true word.
The preeminent characteristic of God is righteousness. He's not impressed with or interested in people who glorify him, but don't do what he says, which is live righteously. Such is taking the lord's name in vain, ie, calling him lord, but not doing what he says. Hypocritical faith.
being a people pleaser isn't wise, and favoring the majority in scepticism isn't wise either, since his word says all are called few are chosen, this also implies that all can be skeptics.
Harras-moss was a skeptic, Augustine declared the Holy spirit is not a skeptic, and his word is true, he would know since many teachers know many people hide away.
As I stated he has a very engaging voice and manner of speaking, no doubt.
I read a comment once on Twitter that as long as they are NOT expounding on TULIP/Westminister Confession/Canons of Dort they do have insight in other areas. There is some truth to that, Dr. Martin Lloyd Jones being a prime example as well.
When I realized there are many who are part of the TULIP Brigade (Begg, Sproul, Lloyd-Martin) and TULIP is the foundation of all their other doctrines I just thought best to stay clear.
Including their websites like "God Questions" CARM, Ligonier's etc.,
I knew you would see the light eventually, lol
As you know Augustine was part of the Manichean cult before his conversion, unfortunately he did not divest himself of their ideas completely.
ooohhh I knew it wouldn't be long before you revelled in it.As I stated he has a very engaging voice and manner of speaking, no doubt.
I read a comment once on Twitter that as long as they are NOT expounding on TULIP/Westminister Confession/Canons of Dort they do have insight in other areas. There is some truth to that, Dr. Martin Lloyd Jones being a prime example as well.
When I realized there are many who are part of the TULIP Brigade (Begg, Sproul, Lloyd-Martin) and TULIP is the foundation of all their other doctrines I just thought best to stay clear.
Including their websites like "God Questions" CARM, Ligonier's etc.,
I knew you would see the light eventually, lol
I learned just recently that he is largely responsible for spreading the idea of "regeneration preceding faith," regeneration being a type of activation that a person has no awareness of at the time.
This video has been a real eye-opener for me about Sproul.
I didn't realize Luther was as bad as Calvin. The controversy between Erasmus and Luther really brings into sharp focus the root of why the protestant church is in the powerless state it's in. Give glory to God without regard to behavior
just recently eh, and your so quick to make the allegations known like you did in another thread.
It's just amazing how so many people here find an excuse to derail, it's the same old same old as always.
there a saying that when a persons eyes have been opened they can go one of two ways.
Yep which way have you gone.
To favour the Roman catholic heresy.
Great stuff