Understanding God’s election
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A few days ago I had just given a whole slew of posts as evidence that I do not ignore the unconditional love of God as someone had falsely accused me of, among a bunch of other reprehensible behaviour from him, and somebody else almost immediately afterwards comes along and says that I blaspheme God and ascribe to God hatred for humanity ... They went on and on reeling off their falsehoods. It's just par for the course around here; no point getting angry about it... Calvinists have called me a free willer and the free willer insists on calling me a calvinist because they are really not interested in the truth.
A few days ago I had just given a whole slew of posts as evidence that I do not ignore the unconditional love of God as someone had falsely accused me of, among a bunch of other reprehensible behaviour from him, and somebody else almost immediately afterwards comes along and says that I blaspheme God and ascribe to God hatred for humanity ... They went on and on reeling off their falsehoods. It's just par for the course around here; no point getting angry about it... Calvinists have called me a free willer and the free willer insists on calling me a calvinist because they are really not interested in the truth.
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Dearly beloved, we gather here today to mourn the sudden and horrific passing of Bill in Accounting who died after having a purple pen shoved up his left nostril and into his brain. The Royal Canadian Mounties are still on the lookout for his killer...
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They taught the needed details to be able to put it together.
While Jesus was on earth, having denied himself of his powers of Deity?
Was he omniscient in his experience while being as a man?
The answer is 'no.'
What does that reveal?
The son, having two natures, can decide to think, act, and work... as a man,
and deny himself to function in his rightful powers of Deity.
So? With that in mind.
In what state could the Lord have placed himself when it was time to create all men and angels?
What state of being, as to avoid knowing who would love God, and who would not?
Yet, to create all with his desire for all to know and love the Father!
While Jesus was on earth, having denied himself of his powers of Deity?
Was he omniscient in his experience while being as a man?
The answer is 'no.'
Philippians 2:6-8
Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something
to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something
to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
What does that reveal?
The son, having two natures, can decide to think, act, and work... as a man,
and deny himself to function in his rightful powers of Deity.
So? With that in mind.
In what state could the Lord have placed himself when it was time to create all men and angels?
What state of being, as to avoid knowing who would love God, and who would not?
Yet, to create all with his desire for all to know and love the Father!
I think "inclination" is related to logic, and it seems more logical to me (after studying humanity’s variety of beliefs) given the existential facts of death and imperfect justice that a person would have a propensity or inclination to hope the Christian view is correct, because there seems to be no better (credible and desirable) way of attaining the DOD (heaven and Justice) than NT theism. This Propensity Principle (PP) restates Pascal’s wager in terms of comparison shopping (with all belief systems) instead of gambling.
The PP employs linear logic (rather than circular reasoning) to propose faith in the NT God as the best belief that solves the maze of reality as follows:
1. Current scientific knowledge cannot explain how the universe came to exist by means of natural causes, thus it is possible that the cause of the universe is a supernatural Creator/God.
2. The most creative species is humanity, whose traits also include language, moral conscience and God consciousness (personality), so it is possible that these human traits reflect attributes of a God who created humanity.
3. Existential reality indicates that humans are mortal and life is painful, but when life is happy, one wishes it would continue indefinitely. Thus, it is rational to seek a way to become immortal in a heavenly existence (where there is love and justice for all forever, the DOD).
4. Comparing all possible ways of achieving the DOD, the best or most credible way/hope at this point appears to be the God who resurrected Christ Jesus according to the NT.
5. When words from God are sought, the NT teachings of Jesus and Paul seem to be the most highly inspired when compared with other scriptures (including the OT), because its concept of one God as the just and all-loving Judge (rationale for morality) is spiritually highest or most advanced, and the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus is most credible.
6. Thus, it is appropriate or wise to believe in the NT God and to accept Jesus as God’s Messiah, until/unless a better hope for heaven becomes available.
The atheist opinion or inclination is that the existence of a supernatural Deity is not proven, but it is not disproved either, which means that the evidence needs to be evaluated honestly. A neutral inclination about ultimate reality is the following: “It is logical to remain open to believing all credible possibilities (those which present sufficient evidence) and to hope the most desirable rational possibility is true.” The PP explains why the NT is such.
A biblical illustration of the PP is the OT story about Naaman being told to bathe in the dirty Jordan River to cure his leprosy (2KG 5:10-14). The Naaman Example teaches us not to let sinful pride/inclinations prevent us from being cured of spiritual sickness by methods we think are silly or do not understand. Some people might not understand why God ordained Messiah to atone for humanity’s sins, so they think the Gospel seems foolish or silly (cf. 1CR 1:18-25). However, they accept physical reality without necessarily understanding very well how it works (cf. JN 3:8). God’s way: humility = teachability.
Those who reject the PP (and Naaman Example) apparently employ a logical fallacy or inclination I call non praecedere (comparable to non sequitur), making an unwarranted conclusion which precedes unknown facts, namely the cause for the universe “banging bigly”. Atheists assume a natural cause will be discovered, but their assumption is premature and thus inappropriate as well as nihilistic.
The PP employs linear logic (rather than circular reasoning) to propose faith in the NT God as the best belief that solves the maze of reality as follows:
1. Current scientific knowledge cannot explain how the universe came to exist by means of natural causes, thus it is possible that the cause of the universe is a supernatural Creator/God.
2. The most creative species is humanity, whose traits also include language, moral conscience and God consciousness (personality), so it is possible that these human traits reflect attributes of a God who created humanity.
3. Existential reality indicates that humans are mortal and life is painful, but when life is happy, one wishes it would continue indefinitely. Thus, it is rational to seek a way to become immortal in a heavenly existence (where there is love and justice for all forever, the DOD).
4. Comparing all possible ways of achieving the DOD, the best or most credible way/hope at this point appears to be the God who resurrected Christ Jesus according to the NT.
5. When words from God are sought, the NT teachings of Jesus and Paul seem to be the most highly inspired when compared with other scriptures (including the OT), because its concept of one God as the just and all-loving Judge (rationale for morality) is spiritually highest or most advanced, and the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus is most credible.
6. Thus, it is appropriate or wise to believe in the NT God and to accept Jesus as God’s Messiah, until/unless a better hope for heaven becomes available.
The atheist opinion or inclination is that the existence of a supernatural Deity is not proven, but it is not disproved either, which means that the evidence needs to be evaluated honestly. A neutral inclination about ultimate reality is the following: “It is logical to remain open to believing all credible possibilities (those which present sufficient evidence) and to hope the most desirable rational possibility is true.” The PP explains why the NT is such.
A biblical illustration of the PP is the OT story about Naaman being told to bathe in the dirty Jordan River to cure his leprosy (2KG 5:10-14). The Naaman Example teaches us not to let sinful pride/inclinations prevent us from being cured of spiritual sickness by methods we think are silly or do not understand. Some people might not understand why God ordained Messiah to atone for humanity’s sins, so they think the Gospel seems foolish or silly (cf. 1CR 1:18-25). However, they accept physical reality without necessarily understanding very well how it works (cf. JN 3:8). God’s way: humility = teachability.
Those who reject the PP (and Naaman Example) apparently employ a logical fallacy or inclination I call non praecedere (comparable to non sequitur), making an unwarranted conclusion which precedes unknown facts, namely the cause for the universe “banging bigly”. Atheists assume a natural cause will be discovered, but their assumption is premature and thus inappropriate as well as nihilistic.
That's how I believe it was done!
Everyone was created in love.
Everyone created to know and love the Father!
All done while limiting himself to being God's perfect human Soul.
And, his soul was not created!
His Soul was uniquely begotten by the Father!
Begotten before time began.
So, no time? Having no beginning!
For even time was to be created through Him!
Therefore, He had to exist before time did!
Yes...
Everyone was created in love.
Everyone created to know and love the Father!
All done while limiting himself to being God's perfect human Soul.
And, his soul was not created!
His Soul was uniquely begotten by the Father!
Begotten before time began.
So, no time? Having no beginning!
For even time was to be created through Him!
Therefore, He had to exist before time did!
Yes...
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Yes, but I just noticed that MT 7:7 is buried in v.11, in terms of the opposite faith! So my take away is that those disinclined to seek God, are free to be so inclined by employing their God-like reasoning rightly akin to the PP (because even sinful humanity retains the image of God, which is moral free will or conscience), so they are without excuse per RM 1:20.
I will add this insight to my website. Thanks!
I will add this insight to my website. Thanks!
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