Understanding apologetics

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Nedsk said:
First for.the thousandth time that's not the sin of presumption
Second any presuming you do is your fault not mine.
Third, must I be a Catholic to defend what you call the "Catholic position"?
Fourth does matter if I am a man or woman? Does it matter if I'm white or black?
Fifth what denomination of protestsnt are you?
Sixth, do I make you reply to me?
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again all these are questions are what leads people into presumption

Your obviously incoherent
 
Jordon said:
again all these are questions are what leads people into presumption

Your obviously incoherent
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And any presumption is yours. You're obviously a coward and can't answer. Must I be a Catholic to defend what you call the "Catholic position"?
 
Nedsk said:
Whether I'm a catholic or not is irrelevant to the fact that sola fide is unbiblical. What I notice though is you can't refute the fact so you mock the poster. A sure sign you have nothing useful to add.
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this is also called the sin of presumption
 
Nedsk said:
Still hasnt refuted the fact. I don't make you sin you sin. It's sad that you blame others for your sin.
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when you say things like it makes no difference if I'm a Catholic or not to saying sola fide is unbiblical and then you don't acknowledge that it does, it make out your being awkward for reason

It's called being awkward.

Which can lead people to Presuming why you won't answer.

When you get asked several times why your asking for Catholic sources and arguing my source is not reliable several times, and you don't answer why, it leads people to Presume


When you get shown a reliable Catholic source and you don't assess the question again, it leads people to Presume why your not answering.

When you say things like all you people are all just same it leads people to Presume your unhappy about your faith being attacked

When you get asked several times why you can't have assurance your faith is justified and you answered exactly how a Roman Catholic would answer, it leads people to Presume you are a Catholic.

When all these things keep adding up it lead to people believing you have a seriously problem over something.

When you don't answer again and again, and again, it's goes down one big rabbit trail.

When all these things keep happening it can lead to more presumptions

Like one of the serious ones like how some Roman catholics believe they can gain merit and grace by hating the reformed faith by whatever means necessary because of the declaration of trent from Roman catholics

Because some of the more serious offenders of there faith are made to believe they can treat us like pigs and its ok to , they even believe they can lie to us and gain merit for it.

There told we can treated as anathema which means

something or someone that one vehemently dislikes.
 
vehemently
/ˈviːɪm(ə)ntli/

adverb
adverb: vehemently
  1. in a forceful, passionate, or intense manner; with great feeling.
 
Jordon said:
when you say things like it makes no difference if I'm a Catholic or not to saying sola fide is unbiblical and then you don't acknowledge that it does, it make out your being awkward for reason

It's called being awkward.

Which can lead people to Presuming why you won't answer.

When you get asked several times why your asking for Catholic sources and arguing my source is not reliable several times, and you don't answer why, it leads people to Presume


When you get shown a reliable Catholic source and you don't assess the question again, it leads people to Presume why your not answering.

When you say things like all you people are all just same it leads people to Presume your unhappy about your faith being attacked

When you get asked several times why you can't have assurance your faith is justified and you answered exactly how a Roman Catholic would answer, it leads people to Presume you are a Catholic.

When all these things keep adding up it lead to people believing you have a seriously problem over something.

When you don't answer again and again, and again, it's goes down one big rabbit trail.

When all these things keep happening it can lead to more presumptions

Like one of the serious ones like how some Roman catholics believe they can gain merit and grace by hating the reformed faith by whatever means necessary because of the declaration of trent from Roman catholics

Because some of the more serious offenders of there faith are made to believe they can treat us like pigs and its ok to , they even believe they can lie to us and gain merit for it.

There told we can treated as anathema which means

something or someone that one vehemently dislikes.
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I'm not interested in your opinion of me.

You need to answer this

Do I need to be a Catholic to defend what you call then"Catholic position"? Yes or no?
 
Nedsk said:
I'm not interested in your opinion of me.

You need to answer this

Do I need to be a Catholic to defend what you call then"Catholic position"? Yes or no?
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Again where back to your question being valid,

Your question is not valid and has only come about by you leading us to believing you are a Catholic for many many days now.
 
Nedsk said:
I'm not interested in your opinion of me.

You need to answer this

Do I need to be a Catholic to defend what you call then"Catholic position"? Yes or no?
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you stated in another thread people who have left the catholic faith to the protestant faith are pigs
 
Nedsk said:
Where did I say it?
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Perhaps you didn't understand, let me elaborate, I believe what he said because he said it, so, under that circumstance I would not have had to read it myself would I, therefore, I would not be able to answer your question
 
Nedsk said:
Where did I say it?
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Nedsk said:
Believing the stigmata is real is not relevant to anything. No one is required to believe anything. The problem with belief though the object if anyone's belief doesn't have to be true or real.

What people know and what's real it true isn't always the same thing.

My experience has been they separate from their church out of pure ignorance. In all fairness too the church did a lousy job catechizing their own members but that's changing. I see strong protestants move to Catholicism but the runts of the Catholic Church move to protestantism.
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Unless I'm mistaken a runt means a pig

And you state hear it was your own personal experience of people leaving the Catholic church.

This was last week.
 
Undergrace1 said:
Perhaps you didn't understand, let me elaborate, I believe what he said because he said it, so, under that circumstance I would not have had to read it myself would I, therefore, I would not be able to answer your question
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You can't answer because I never said it.
 
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