Unconditional love and the church's approach to homosexuality
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Asked as if I had said anything about salvation being unconditional.
Hint: I did not.
On the other hand, what did you ever do to gain God's love?
Hint: nothing!
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Amazing indeed.
Beyond comprehension.
In the beginning we were created by God before we were born.
Everyone enjoys God’s unconditional love in the temporal world, but not everyone enjoys God's eternal love in His heavenly kingdom. There must be a condition to enjoy God's eternal love in God's heavenly kingdom. What could it be?
Sorry. Have to disagree. We are one race: human. Ethnos/ethnicity is different.buncha racially mixed up people on here
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I believe you know the answer to that question.
Which also suggests you realize salvation is not unconditional, while
stating that His love is unconditional... which is not what you first said.
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now we have to explain race to you?
you are exhausting
race describes the differences in appearance and ethnicity is culture
I guarantee we do not all look the same. we could share the same culture though if brought up in the same place together...for example, New Yorkers born there have a similar accent. They do not all look the same but might frequent the same places and act in similar ways.
never mind. I feel another disagreement coming on
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I guess you never took Anthropology Jerry. I did. but here is a primer for you
If someone asked you to describe your identity to them, where would you begin? Would it come down to your skin color or your nationality? What about the language you speak, your religion, your cultural traditions or your family's ancestry?
This bewildering question often pushes people to separate their identities into two parts: race versus ethnicity. But what do these two terms actually mean, and what's the difference between race and ethnicity in the first place?
These words are often used interchangeably, but technically, they're defined as separate things. "'Race' and 'ethnicity' have been and continue to be used as ways to describe human diversity," said Nina Jablonski, an anthropologist and palaeobiologist at The Pennsylvania State University, who is known for her research into the evolution of human skin color. "Race is understood by most people as a mixture of physical, behavioral and cultural attributes. Ethnicity recognizes differences between people mostly on the basis of language and shared culture."
If someone asked you to describe your identity to them, where would you begin? Would it come down to your skin color or your nationality? What about the language you speak, your religion, your cultural traditions or your family's ancestry?
This bewildering question often pushes people to separate their identities into two parts: race versus ethnicity. But what do these two terms actually mean, and what's the difference between race and ethnicity in the first place?
These words are often used interchangeably, but technically, they're defined as separate things. "'Race' and 'ethnicity' have been and continue to be used as ways to describe human diversity," said Nina Jablonski, an anthropologist and palaeobiologist at The Pennsylvania State University, who is known for her research into the evolution of human skin color. "Race is understood by most people as a mixture of physical, behavioral and cultural attributes. Ethnicity recognizes differences between people mostly on the basis of language and shared culture."
Saying my wife never had the dreams she told me she had, is the same as saying she lied to me.
If I told you a story, such as my wife driving a vehicle for both 2 hours and 2 and 1/2 hours without gasoline in an internal combustible engine, and you said that never happened, then that is the same as saying I'm a liar. It's just that simple.
That would also be like me saying I didn't call you names, I just used descriptive words on how I see you.
If you want to talk scripture I would be more than happy to do so, but personal attacks on family members will not be tolerated by me.
Saying my wife was the cause of the demonic activity and a portal for the same along with saying, she needs help, was uncalled for.
What race were Adam and Eve?I guess you never took Anthropology Jerry. I did. but here is a primer for you
If someone asked you to describe your identity to them, where would you begin? Would it come down to your skin color or your nationality? What about the language you speak, your religion, your cultural traditions or your family's ancestry?
This bewildering question often pushes people to separate their identities into two parts: race versus ethnicity. But what do these two terms actually mean, and what's the difference between race and ethnicity in the first place?
These words are often used interchangeably, but technically, they're defined as separate things. "'Race' and 'ethnicity' have been and continue to be used as ways to describe human diversity," said Nina Jablonski, an anthropologist and palaeobiologist at The Pennsylvania State University, who is known for her research into the evolution of human skin color. "Race is understood by most people as a mixture of physical, behavioral and cultural attributes. Ethnicity recognizes differences between people mostly on the basis of language and shared culture."
Okay, even though it made me feel better at the time and aside from the fact that you most likely will not get this message, it was still wrong of me to call you a half-baked ditzy flake, and I sincerely apologize for doing so.
And even though you didn't apologize for the things you said about my wife, I forgive you, and I asked you to forgive me, for the mean things I said, as well.
The spirit of God convicted me and told me I should repent, apologize, and ask for your forgiveness because you are a child of God. I don't know if I heard correctly, because I questioned the last part of that, but I have done all of the above in obedience, from my heart, in all sincerity.
Again I apologize, and regardless of what you say, it will not happen again.
Our Church does NOT discriminate, unrepentant homosexuality is a BAD as ANY Unrepentant SIN, even the unrepentant THOUGHT.
I used to be a Volunteer Prison Chaplain. Here is the way I explained it to inmates:
The Worst Mass Murderer on DEATH ROW is NOT a worse Sinner than US in GOD's Eyes. We are as BAD AS HIM ! ! !
James 2:10 (NCV)
10 A person who follows all of God’s law but fails to obey even one command is guilty of breaking all the commands in that law.
1 Samuel 15:29 (NCV)
29 The LORD is the Eternal One of Israel. He does not lie or change his mind.
He is not a human being, so he does not change his mind.
Psalm 51:17 (GWT)
17 The sacrifice pleasing to God is a broken spirit. O God, you do not despise a broken and sorrowful heart.
If the sinner approaches GOD with a Borrow and Sorrowful HEART, over HIS SINFULNESS, HE will most certainly FORGIVE THEM.
I am totally Convinced they had to be mixture of all Races.
Jesus was a Nazarene, do you know what race the vast majority of the Nazarene's look like ? ? ?
Dark skinned Arabs.
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I don't buy that....we are under the law. Grace is the umbrella under which we are able to get forgiveness.
Give scriptures a closer look....you are n need.