Ukraine the bad guy?

[ZNP]

They need warm bodies to fly them first. Supposedly there are Ukrainian pilots in training overseas right now.

The problem is.......they would not last more than a couple of engagements. Russian air defenses would sweep these antiquated jalopies out of the sky and they know it. This F-16 feint is just another hopeless boondoggle and more impotent posturing.

The tragic fact is that Ukraine has already lost this war. The West keeps trying emergency resuscitation but the patient is pretty much down for the count I'm afraid.

Both sides are trying to get an excuse to use their top notch weapons against each other so that it is no longer a proxy war. The US is surrounded by enemies.

 

[cv5]

Both sides are trying to get an excuse to use their top notch weapons against each other so that it is no longer a proxy war. The US is surrounded by enemies.

Just a thought, but if I were the USA, I would be fully committed to building the worlds strongest and most prosperous economy, an utterly unbeatable military for DEFENSIVE PURPOSES, and bequeath the citizenry with maximum rights and freedoms due under the law.

These pathetic proxy wars have all turned out to be big-time losers for them. And a waste of time and treasure. And ruined the economy and diluted the Bill of Rights and many other negative blowback effects.

 

[Fundaamental]

They need warm bodies to fly them first. Supposedly there are Ukrainian pilots in training overseas right now.

The problem is.......they would not last more than a couple of engagements. Russian air defenses would sweep these antiquated jalopies out of the sky and they know it. This F-16 feint is just another hopeless boondoggle and more impotent posturing.

The tragic fact is that Ukraine has already lost this war. The West keeps trying emergency resuscitation but the patient is pretty much down for the count I'm afraid.

9 years is a load of time to do all this.

The jets would be used as quick fly bye missions to bomb enemy ground troops or enemy equipment.

They could have had thousands of fighter jets in that period of nine years.

Or even they could have even let Ukraine be part of the European union way befor now.

But there's one excuse after the next.

There could have been better missile detectors put in place to

I think blood shed is the preferred choice.

It makes no sence that NATO can arm Ukraine and train them for war against Russia

But NATO won't let them become part of the Europe because that will escalate trouble with Russia.
Is that a joke or what

 

[ZNP]

Just a thought, but if I were the USA, I would be fully committed to building the worlds strongest and most prosperous economy, an utterly unbeatable military for DEFENSIVE PURPOSES, and bequeath the citizenry with maximum rights and freedoms due under the law.

These pathetic proxy wars have all turned out to be big-time losers for them. And a waste of time and treasure. And ruined the economy and diluted the Bill of Rights and many other negative blowback effects.

True, but if you were an elite, a king or queen who lost power to the US you would be seeking to undermine and destroy the US. Destroy their testimony as a righteous and charitable nation. You would use the CIA to destroy the relationship between the US and all the other nations. You would also seek to undermine their economy. Send their manufacturing abroad, get them a huge debt, cause the collapse of their currency, and take away all their allies.

You would seek to get all the multinational corporations to agree with your globalist view of one world government. You would buy up senators, presidents and congressmen to make this all happen. You would pay any price to seize control of the US and then in control you would pay yourself back in spades with pork barrel bills.

You would undermine their vaunted public schools which at first were the envy of the whole world. You would incite the kids to reject all authority and you would do everything in your power to undermine the education so that the common American would be easy to manipulate and deceive.

 

[ZNP]

9 years is a load of time to do all this.

The jets would be used as quick fly bye missions to bomb enemy ground troops or enemy equipment.

They could have had thousands of fighter jets in that period of nine years.

Or even they could have even let Ukraine be part of the European union way befor now.

But there's one excuse after the next.

There could have been better missile detectors put in place to

I think blood shed is the preferred choice.

It makes no sence that NATO can arm Ukraine and train them for war against Russia

But NATO won't let them become part of the Europe because that will escalate trouble with Russia.
Is that a joke or what

Why build jets when you can build drones for a fraction of the price, it is much easier to learn to fly them and you don't lose pilots when they are shot down. Drones can be harder to see and shoot down.

 

[Fundaamental]

Why build jets when you can build drones for a fraction of the price, it is much easier to learn to fly them and you don't lose pilots when they are shot down. Drones can be harder to see and shoot down.

Agreed unmanned too, maybe bigger drones too for missiles .

But the more little drones the more they could seek out and guide missiles.



But then that would cause less casualties less civilian casualties less destruction of buildings

Less economical unstability,

Nope I don't think that would work for creating a false economy or for sales of many many rockets
And sales of other army equipment .

Then of cause how could the thirst of satan be fully quenched

 

[resto]

We cannot stop the poseidon torpedos, nor can we stop the suitcase nukes in the US, nor are we equipped to deal with the chaos that will come from a nationwide blackout, nor can we stop scalar wave.

Pride goes before destruction. The US is no longer under God's protection, and they have heaped up to themselves enemies who desire to destroy her.

When I read this thread it reminds me of the endless wrangling in the book of Job. If God allows Job, or in this case the US, to be brought low it will happen.

We can stop all that. I have personal and Professional Knowlege of the systems you cite. Thats all Im going to say. I "Debriefed" and signed Gag Orders when I retired last Month. God Used the USA to Free the Jews and Secure The State of Israel in the 20th Century. He is not done with the USA. the USA is in the middle of its final mission to Hold The Line against Evil. Its doing fine.

 

[resto]

Why build jets when you can build drones for a fraction of the price, it is much easier to learn to fly them and you don't lose pilots when they are shot down. Drones can be harder to see and shoot down.

The Drone Network is Bigger than you know. Alls US Weapons are "Slaved" to a complex Sensor network. Thats all I can say about that.

 

[resto]

certainly is resto.

But you know it's also a rabbit hole of a world wide economical instability that has gone for a hundred years.

It looks like a one world order to me.

The real truth being all the leaders of the world rule by creating a false economy,

Precisely...You see it. I spent 47 years inside "The Rabbit Hole". I worked along side "Spooks". Its only Going One Way. Save Souls, it will be dark soon. See You On The Other Side.
Semper Fi

 

[ZNP]

The Drone Network is Bigger than you know. Alls US Weapons are "Slaved" to a complex Sensor network. Thats all I can say about that.

We were joking about Ukraine building them. We understand that the blank check as a result of 911 has built this entire network.

 

[cv5]

True, but if you were an elite, a king or queen who lost power to the US you would be seeking to undermine and destroy the US. Destroy their testimony as a righteous and charitable nation. You would use the CIA to destroy the relationship between the US and all the other nations. You would also seek to undermine their economy. Send their manufacturing abroad, get them a huge debt, cause the collapse of their currency, and take away all their allies.

You would seek to get all the multinational corporations to agree with your globalist view of one world government. You would buy up senators, presidents and congressmen to make this all happen. You would pay any price to seize control of the US and then in control you would pay yourself back in spades with pork barrel bills.

You would undermine their vaunted public schools which at first were the envy of the whole world. You would incite the kids to reject all authority and you would do everything in your power to undermine the education so that the common American would be easy to manipulate and deceive.

All of which is contrary to the manifesto I set forth. And not the least bit untrue either.

 

[cv5]

God Used the USA to Free the Jews and Secure The State of Israel in the 20th Century. He is not done with the USA.

Absolutely agree.

the USA is in the middle of its final mission to Hold The Line against Evil. Its doing fine.

Oh I don't know about that......
Blinky just returned from China with his tail between his legs. Xi probably did a reveal of the BRICS plan to throw the USD under the bus.
Among other geopolitical "things".

Ukraine was the spark plug used to fire up the furnaces of malcontent and rebellion. The world is spiraling into militarism/totalitarianism. The outlook is exceedingly grim IMO.

 

[cv5]

Its doing fine.

Not with Grandpa Disaster in the wheelhouse. After the election mutineers took over the vessel don't forget.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1674059997414563843

 

[cv5]

The Drone Network is Bigger than you know. Alls US Weapons are "Slaved" to a complex Sensor network. Thats all I can say about that.

The real risk is the possibility of using this formidable weapon systems against the clueless civvies. Unless they have the numbers and range to penetrate Iran, China, Russia and NK simultaneously.

 

[ZNP]

"Putin is clearly losing the war in Iraq"

https://rumble.com/v2wtqab-biden-putin-is-clearly-losing-the-war-in-iraq.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab

Can't argue with that.

 

[cv5]

FYI....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1673751798421790720

 

[Fundaamental]

FYI....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1673751798421790720

there are also reports that paid terrorist groups have been firing missiles in Ukraine to escalate the war further so that Russia get blamed for firing them.

So how do you know that these photos aren't attempts by somebody somewhere to bring China into it, so it escalates further, ?

On the basis that if NATO goes to war against China then China would join Russia.

Isn't that how proxy wars are encouraged.

 

[ZNP]

FYI....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1673751798421790720

This is comforting, Everyone is here for the party. God is throwing a great feast for the birds and we have China, Iran, Russia, Ukraine, NATO and the US.

 

[ZNP]

Why build jets when you can build drones for a fraction of the price, it is much easier to learn to fly them and you don't lose pilots when they are shot down. Drones can be harder to see and shoot down.

Also if you don't have enough trained pilots you can use AI to fly these and target the enemy. What could go wrong?

 

[Fundaamental]

Also if you don't have enough trained pilots you can use AI to fly these and target the enemy. What could go wrong?

it's very optimistic but what demon could possess a clone and feel bloodshed in a drone war

I don't think demons would have much fun possessing machines.

He gets more fun from brother killing brother.

So there the truth of satans war.

The opposite of what Jesus said was we do not battle against flesh and blood,

Then of cause the leaders of the world have to satisfy Satans thirst,