Ukraine the bad guy?
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Just so we are all clear, when you say the terms are acceptable does this mean you are signing up to go fight "the wicked, blasphemous Russia that serves Satan" or are you simply encouraging others to go fight them?
(Telling others to go fight them when you aren't going would make you look like a hypocrite whereas going yourself would improve your credibility)
So just to be clear you aren't going to go and fight with God, you are simply a cheerleader jumping for joy every time a Russian dies.
Quick question, do you cheer when the believers die or just the unbelieving Russians?
Let's discuss why this war is critically important to Biden and Washington DC.
1. If you send $100 billion to Ukraine it will require our military to buy another $100 billion in weapons. That makes the donors to the government officials happy.
2. Some of the money sent to Ukraine is laundered back to the politicians paying for their political campaigns, so the politicians are happy.
3. They pay for this with US debt which the whole world buys. If Americans paid the whole tab we would have a very different attitude, but since the whole world is helping we hardly even notice. So taxpayers don't care.
4. However, the world does notice. Hence we have BRICS and now it seems France wants to join BRICS. The world is tired of paying for America's forever wars and so our fiat currency is coming to an end, the party is over, the writing is on the wall, and this government will go out with a bang as the rest of the world expresses their disdain for the US. Hence DC cannot afford to lose because when they do they will really and absolutely lose.
1. If you send $100 billion to Ukraine it will require our military to buy another $100 billion in weapons. That makes the donors to the government officials happy.
2. Some of the money sent to Ukraine is laundered back to the politicians paying for their political campaigns, so the politicians are happy.
3. They pay for this with US debt which the whole world buys. If Americans paid the whole tab we would have a very different attitude, but since the whole world is helping we hardly even notice. So taxpayers don't care.
4. However, the world does notice. Hence we have BRICS and now it seems France wants to join BRICS. The world is tired of paying for America's forever wars and so our fiat currency is coming to an end, the party is over, the writing is on the wall, and this government will go out with a bang as the rest of the world expresses their disdain for the US. Hence DC cannot afford to lose because when they do they will really and absolutely lose.
so, thousands of ukrainain soldiers killed, about 160 tanks and over 300 armored vehicles destroyed.
in one week.
so, not sure what " god" is fighting for ukraine, but it is NOT the God of the Bible..
The USA has a treaty with Ukraine to do exactly what we are doing. Obama ignored the treaty and created the mess we have today.
As far as the initial Russian claims about language and ethnic Russians....it is of course a lie. Russia has not told the whole truth ever before, why should they start now? The whole truth is that Russia paid loyalists to move into Ukraine to stir up trouble. The natives of Donbas and Crimea have complained about them since it began happening in 2000. They never once complained about the internal warfare saying things like "they are fighting Russians" way back then.
And of course there is internal issues in Russia over this Special Military Action. Russian men went to Ukraine to find wives...been something of a trite expression as Boris Yeltzin had a wife from Ukraine too.
And these wives in Russia have an affinity to their families still living in Ukraine....go figure eh? So Russian internal fires and acts of sabotage are going to continue.
Russia and Ukraine both know that the mines in Eastern Ukraine are over ⅓ of Ukrainians GDP every year. From salt to Uranium the mines in Ukraine are valuable to Ukraine and Russia. Russia has stolen all of the mined ore (and is selling it) that was waiting to go to market since Russia blocked the ports in 2014.
Russia has also stolen every tractor that they could...from the John Deere dealerships as well as New Holland and others left in barns and fields. Nevermind the backhoes and buldozers they have been stealing to build fortifications. If this was about "helping people" then how does stealing expensive equipment and turning cities into rubble help anyone?
Russian financial reserves including the stolen assets is just about gone. The sanctions have taken a toll. The increased sanctions of those helping Russia get around the sanctions are coming very soon. Including those USA domestic corporations that knowingly are still operating in Russia. RJR Reynolds is one. (They make everything from cigarettes to candy bars to Nabisco)
Also Nestlé is still going in Russia.
I say let them suffer from a 10% of total conglomerate tax and split it up between the US and EU. That ought to be a few billion dollars to help fund the war.
As far as the initial Russian claims about language and ethnic Russians....it is of course a lie. Russia has not told the whole truth ever before, why should they start now? The whole truth is that Russia paid loyalists to move into Ukraine to stir up trouble. The natives of Donbas and Crimea have complained about them since it began happening in 2000. They never once complained about the internal warfare saying things like "they are fighting Russians" way back then.
And of course there is internal issues in Russia over this Special Military Action. Russian men went to Ukraine to find wives...been something of a trite expression as Boris Yeltzin had a wife from Ukraine too.
And these wives in Russia have an affinity to their families still living in Ukraine....go figure eh? So Russian internal fires and acts of sabotage are going to continue.
Russia and Ukraine both know that the mines in Eastern Ukraine are over ⅓ of Ukrainians GDP every year. From salt to Uranium the mines in Ukraine are valuable to Ukraine and Russia. Russia has stolen all of the mined ore (and is selling it) that was waiting to go to market since Russia blocked the ports in 2014.
Russia has also stolen every tractor that they could...from the John Deere dealerships as well as New Holland and others left in barns and fields. Nevermind the backhoes and buldozers they have been stealing to build fortifications. If this was about "helping people" then how does stealing expensive equipment and turning cities into rubble help anyone?
Russian financial reserves including the stolen assets is just about gone. The sanctions have taken a toll. The increased sanctions of those helping Russia get around the sanctions are coming very soon. Including those USA domestic corporations that knowingly are still operating in Russia. RJR Reynolds is one. (They make everything from cigarettes to candy bars to Nabisco)
Also Nestlé is still going in Russia.
I say let them suffer from a 10% of total conglomerate tax and split it up between the US and EU. That ought to be a few billion dollars to help fund the war.
Everything that is going on today is designed to divide and conquer the US. The Ukraine war has caused a schism, the border crisis caused a schism, Biden calling 75 million Americans domestic terrorists causes a schism, culling herds and forbidding fertilizer for "climate change" is causing a schism. The US is a great nation, our enemies are in a pitched battle to take this country and they cannot have us be united.
so, how about the agreement that was made by bush sr. and gorbachev that n a t o would not expand and russia would begin to disarm???
nato expanded, and putin began to rearm russia.
to disagree and oppose putin is one thing. but, to outright ignore what led us here is not a good thing.
This is an outrageous and wrong characterization of the function of NATO.
A car/vehicle is not a mobile entertainment center. It's a vehicle for traveling from point A to B. Sitting in one primarily to watch television or listen to the radio is missing the point of the device in the same way you are characterizing NATO and any thoughts about agreements for "NATO expansion".
So first start with a new concept: the TRUTH....(something Russia has yet to use)
Big news again today! The wicked muslim commander of Unholy Russia's muslim horde that they sent into Europa to kill Christians has has been vanquished, praise JESUS!
The God of the Bible is indeed not with Putin who told you this lie. God shall destroy Putin who started this war based on a lie, who continues to maintain this war for the pure sake of lies, who is solely responsible for this war all based on lies. The God of the Truth will defeat the armies of the liars of Unholy Russia from their bottommost scum to the top of their wicked false Tsar, and every step of the way the faithful will PRAISE JESUS!
How much of this talk is based on how you "feel"? We do know there can be wars and rumor of wars and God is not in it at all right? Now I question Ukraine because of what they have done to Churches and how they have treated Christians. Yeah odd how that never hits the news nor most Christian forums. I think one has to ask "where does all your info/knowledge come form on this?" Well if your on the left then RUSSIA bad Ukraine good. The right Russia bad but and Ukraine good yet bad. Just gets more confusing since both never share everything that is happening. Never show where all those BILLIONS we sent goes.
How many real people died on Russia's side and then on Ukraine's side? I say real because its easy to watch on TV or some video and spit out all kind of things and then how one "feels" and then you know the truth but to watch it first hand.. takes on a different meaning.
How many real people died on Russia's side and then on Ukraine's side? I say real because its easy to watch on TV or some video and spit out all kind of things and then how one "feels" and then you know the truth but to watch it first hand.. takes on a different meaning.
I feel like PRAISING JESUS because the Heroes are gaining ground more rapidly than the Russians are lying and getting themselves high on Russia copium with. Furthermore 7000 orcs have been wiped off the face of the Earth as well as possibly another senior level commander (uncofirmed at the immediate moment, but either way, good news) and the name of Jesus is sanctified in blood and fire and the Truth prevails over the Lies. God is on the side of the good guys! Victory and Truth goes marching on over the heads of the Wicekd Lying Russia! PRAISE JESUS!
Here is links to all the news, abandon Russian propaganda and the simps. You don't have to love Biden, Trump gave Ukraine Stingers, Trump has hinted he might nuke Unholy Russia! Trump's close circle like Pompeo and Lindsey Graham have done well too on this issue.
We hope it need not come to Trump using the N word though because Unholy Russia are going to be destroyed by God and his mighty hand has turned on them hard and fast all of a sudden, glorious and strong is Jesus! Wciekd Putin's emprie of the lie Novo Rossiya World Order will never come to pass! Killuminati blow down Satan's body, Unholy Russia gets blown away like a 12 gauge shotty, alet all the public eyes of the world bear witness that the Lord live and fights the wicked and remember to importantly sanctifiy his name and PRAISE JESUS!
Here is links to all the news, abandon Russian propaganda and the simps. You don't have to love Biden, Trump gave Ukraine Stingers, Trump has hinted he might nuke Unholy Russia! Trump's close circle like Pompeo and Lindsey Graham have done well too on this issue.
We hope it need not come to Trump using the N word though because Unholy Russia are going to be destroyed by God and his mighty hand has turned on them hard and fast all of a sudden, glorious and strong is Jesus! Wciekd Putin's emprie of the lie Novo Rossiya World Order will never come to pass! Killuminati blow down Satan's body, Unholy Russia gets blown away like a 12 gauge shotty, alet all the public eyes of the world bear witness that the Lord live and fights the wicked and remember to importantly sanctifiy his name and PRAISE JESUS!
The "Billions" is in the value of the equipment sent...not actually cash. I think that there was some cash but it was not much....I think it was some change found in the seats of a humvee.....it was an accident that it didn't get cleaned out.
Those javelin missiles are EXTREMELY expensive....but not as expensive as a tank....or a radar assembly....or a patriot missile....or a storm shadow missile....or one of them jets they have been asking for. So are HIMARS rocket rounds.
Ammo is expensive, so are the pieces of equipment that fire them.
We already know that billions of dollars sent to Ukraine were laundered back through FTX and given to the campaigns of a many in this last election.
This is why there is unanimity among politicians supporting Ukraine, it is like asking a gaggle of whores if they want to be paid.