Two Natures???

[Pilgrimshope]

it's ridiculous to insist that Christ's heart was at any time polluted with evil desires.

James 1:13-14​

God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone; but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.​

Yeah I’ve never said Christ was polluted you are saying if he was tempted he was filled with evil I’m not saying that.

You are trying to use this

“each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.”

to somehow prove all this wrong because you don’t understand it

“Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭4:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭4:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Do you really believe those scriptures are all wrong and can’t be true ….. because you found this verse in James ? And have determined that Jesus the son of man could not be tempted ?

each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.”

that’s really your logic this one verse here from James is true but the others are wrong because they are translated o to English ?

and you don’t find any relevance in this verse either which Jesus n the flesh said ?

“God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭4:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this verse these are not relevant to what you’ve held up as your proof

“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭2:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

None of that speaks a word to you ?

To be clear the conclusions you’re saying I have are coming from you I’ve never said Jesus was corrupt or had evil desires …..you are doing that to try to disprove several scriptures lol

you aren’t understanding me at all . Jesus faced temptation not because he had evil desires but because we do. He faced it and overcame it on our behalf he experienced exactly what any man does when tempted again not because he had evil desires but because we do . He also died not because he had sin but because we do he also took part of flesh and blood because we do ….

you really aren’t hearing me and it’s probably my own fault the way I present my posts

either way brother I don’t wanna keep this going . I’m gonna stick to the things the Bible teaches it really is clearly laid out

 

[Pilgrimshope]

((stirs pot))

"betrayed" is also incorrect; the same Greek also means "delivered"

to betray carries the sense of successfully deceiving, and of the one who was betrayed having made an error of judgement and having been unable to discern the true intentions of the betrayer.

"betray" is also incompatible with Christ's deity. Judas delivered Him to be crucified - - at no time was Jesus ever unaware of what he would do, and it is flatly impossible that Jesus was deceived in any way whatsoever.

Wow I wasn’t aware the Bible had so much error i feel the same about you I always have brother lots of respect your way we might have to hash the details out ….. in “the great over yonder “

 

[Pilgrimshope]

it's ridiculous to insist that Christ's heart was at any time polluted with evil desires.

James 1:13-14​

God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone; but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.​

“it's ridiculous to insist that Christ's heart was at any time polluted with evil desires. “

yep anyone claiming that would be ridiculous

 

[posthuman]

Yeah I’ve never said Christ was polluted you are saying if he was tempted he was filled with evil I’m not saying that.

James is saying that

Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭4:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

tested

being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭4:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

tested

For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:17-18‬ ‭KJV

Tested, tested, tested.

again - - priests are not tempted, they are tested. Sacrifices are not tempted, they are tested. they must be without blemish.

that’s really your logic this one verse here from James is true but the others are wrong because they are translated o to English ?

there is a mistake in the kjv propagated to a number of other translations.
the Greek is only one word that primarily means tested, and by context can have the meaning of tempted - English has two words for the two shades of meaning, and we put tempted where we should put tested, because we are ignoring the fact of His deity in the context.

“God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭4:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

in Truth.

this should be important to us, because He is the Truth, and there is in Him no unrighteousness. when we say He was tempted just as we are - - do we mean He lusted after women but was thankfully able to control Himself? that He really wanted to murder and steal and lie but had pretty good self control?
No.
so tempted is not the right word. it is incorrect. He was tested just like we are.
it is not because He was also a kleptomaniac in His heart that He can help the thief with his urge to steal. it is not because He lusted after men's bodies that He can help the homosexual. it is not because He also hated humanity that He can help the murderer.

you aren’t understanding me at all . Jesus faced temptation not because he had evil desires but because we do.

James isn't in your Bible? no Leviticus?

so Christ was tested, not tempted, and we are in the same way tested, but have also temptation

you are doing that to try to disprove several scriptures lol

no.

the Greek word means to test/try/prove. not to tempt. go ahead and stick that in everywhere you see tempt and it will be fine, no meaning lost.

what i am doing is honoring the name of God in our pagan language approximate translation of the actual scripture, not disproving scripture. we are supposed to use our minds and teach right doctrine.

like i said bro it's just an aside and a subtle point, you'll understand it some day. it's hard to accept that something you have taken for granted for a long time and never thought deeply about may not be completely correct.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

James is saying that




tested




tested




Tested, tested, tested.

again - - priests are not tempted, they are tested. Sacrifices are not tempted, they are tested. they must be without blemish.




there is a mistake in the kjv propagated to a number of other translations.
the Greek is only one word that primarily means tested, and by context can have the meaning of tempted - English has two words for the two shades of meaning, and we put tempted where we should put tested, because we are ignoring the fact of His deity in the context.




in Truth.

this should be important to us, because He is the Truth, and there is in Him no unrighteousness. when we say He was tempted just as we are - - do we mean He lusted after women but was thankfully able to control Himself? that He really wanted to murder and steal and lie but had pretty good self control?
No.
so tempted is not the right word. it is incorrect. He was tested just like we are.
it is not because He was also a kleptomaniac in His heart that He can help the thief with his urge to steal. it is not because He lusted after men's bodies that He can help the homosexual. it is not because He also hated humanity that He can help the murderer.



James isn't in your Bible? no Leviticus?

so Christ was tested, not tempted, and we are in the same way tested, but have also temptation




no.

the Greek word means to test/try/prove. not to tempt. go ahead and stick that in everywhere you see tempt and it will be fine, no meaning lost.

what i am doing is honoring the name of God in our pagan language approximate translation of the actual scripture, not disproving scripture. we are supposed to use our minds and teach right doctrine.

like i said bro it's just an aside and a subtle point, you'll understand it some day. it's hard to accept that something you have taken for granted for a long time and never thought deeply about may not be completely correct.

“like i said bro it's just an aside and a subtle point, you'll understand it some day. it's hard to accept that something you have taken for granted for a long time and never thought deeply about may not be completely correct.”

naw i won’t lol because I won’t reject the Bible based on you insisting it’s wrong I’ll stick with this

“Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that’s my high preist who was tempted on every way I am and yet he did not sin like I have .

“Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s my high Priest who it behoved to be made like me , so he could be tempted and overcome like I couldn’t without him and now , having a kinship he’s able to strengthen me and uphold me

“Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil….

( my Jesus faced my enemy and went to battle for me )

Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.”( overcame it and sent him packing )
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭4:1, 11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

i wouldn’t ever deny that Jesus was tempted bro I believe what it says so I don’t need to go to James teaching the church that gods not the one tempting them that tboer temptations come through the lusts of thier flesh…. That doesn’t tell me the rest of scripture is wrong because I’m not making the connection that “ God can’t be tempted “ I’ve said Jesus the son of man was tempted before he entered his glory

also just for the future . A side sibkect Jesus isn’t a levite brother he is a son of Judah not Aaron that’s the entirely wrong preisthood order agaon it’s not even close to being applicable to whether jesus was tempted or not there’s a whole section explaining about levites and Jesus also in Hebrews ……but I’ve noticed suggesting reading carefully isn’t too popular here

 

[posthuman]

I won’t reject the Bible

the Bible isn't written in English.

what we are typing right now is the result of the tower of Babel, not the words or language of heaven,

and it's OK for women to wear pants.

 

[posthuman]

Jesus isn’t a levite brother he is a son of Judah not Aaron that’s the entirely wrong preisthood order

your opinion is that Leviticus doesn't testify of Christ?

not a sound counterargument to my position.

bro this is not something i pulled out of the air, it's 10 years of meditation and study on the topic - hope that comes across. but it's not something to divide over, just a subtlety of language, like saying Christ was instead of is. i'm fine with dropping it

... so we can talk about Judas and betrayed/delivered lololol

 

[Magenta]

She looks like she is tempted to haul off and belt him one .

 

[Pilgrimshope]

the Bible isn't written in English.

what we are typing right now is the result of the tower of Babel, not the words or language of heaven,

and it's OK for women to wear pants.

Yeah and those fifty four renowned translators who translated it into elvish … probably all got it wrong as they compared and revised one another’s work for seven years ……. and a guy on the internet chat room who says it’s wrong is all the proof I need ! What was I thinking !!!

not to mention lol the whole explaination of why he was tempted and what it meant ect ect

brother since I’ve been here do you know how many times I’ve quoted scriptires on different subject as plain as the ones I’ve quoted to you and had the other person tell me “ the translators had it wrong ? “ it’s never going to win a biblical argument to insist the Bible’s wrong with me wrong or right God certainly knows but I’m going down believing what it actually says I trust god to get his word to me correctly

 

[Pilgrimshope]

your opinion is that Leviticus doesn't testify of Christ?

not a sound counterargument to my position.

bro this is not something i pulled out of the air, it's 10 years of meditation and study on the topic - hope that comes across. but it's not something to divide over, just a subtlety of language, like saying Christ was instead of is. i'm fine with dropping it

... so we can talk about Judas and betrayed/delivered lololol

Naw I’m saying Hebrews explains that levites and melchezidek are different lines of preisthood and different covenants and apply to different creations and different peoples

But I mean it’s the same book translated into English like James verse you keep quoting and standing on as if it’s infallible lol while telling me the others are wrong because they were translated into English .

Wasn’t James also translated into English lol why is the one verse you’ve chosen from the same Bible translated into the same language by the same 54 translators ….. true without question but the five I’ve shared from the same bu me are all wrong because they were translated into English ?

i feel like your argument is an impossible position no matter which verses i wuote you’ll tell me it’s translated wrong but then any verse you find you’ll stand on and tell me it is undeniable

even if mine says exactly what I’m saying and yours aren’t even addressing it . So o sort of feel like there’s no where left to go

 

[posthuman]

Naw I’m saying Hebrews explains that levites and melchezidek are different lines of preisthood and different covenants and apply to different creations and different peoples

But I mean it’s the same book translated into English like James verse you keep quoting and standing on as if it’s infallible lol while telling me the others are wrong because they were translated into English .

Wasn’t James also translated into English lol why is the one verse you’ve chosen from the same Bible translated into the same language by the same 54 translators ….. true without question but the five I’ve shared from the same bu me are all wrong because they were translated into English ?

i feel like your argument is an impossible position no matter which verses i wuote you’ll tell me it’s translated wrong but then any verse you find you’ll stand on and tell me it is undeniable

even if mine says exactly what I’m saying and yours aren’t even addressing it . So o sort of feel like there’s no where left to go

maybe try defining what it means for Christ to be tempted, and see if that fits with what we know about Him.

i can tell you, you won't be able to arrive at a conclusion that doesn't discard His deity without relaxing your definition of tempt until what it actually means is test ((just like the Greek original actually says))


i am certainly not the first to say this; you'll find it in Aquinas, too - -

Reply to Objection 3. As the Apostle says (Hebrews 4:15), Christ wished to be "tempted in all things, without sin." Now temptation which comes from an enemy can be without sin: because it comes about by merely outward suggestion. But temptation which comes from the flesh cannot be without sin, because such a temptation is caused by pleasure and concupiscence; and, as Augustine says (De Civ. Dei xix), "it is not without sin that 'the flesh desireth against the spirit.'" And hence Christ wished to be tempted by an enemy, but not by the flesh.​

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what he, Augustine, Chrysostom, and many others argue, is that Christ being 'tempted' is not how we are tempted: that there being no sin in Him, no evil desire to be enticed in His heart, it is wholly external, not as it is with us, internal. it is therefore in English 'test' not tempt - - because temptation, as the current usage in our language defines it, involves ((as James defines)) the evil in our carnal heart being aroused, that is, internal source.

a Few good responses here in a catholic blog - -

https://latin.stackexchange.com/que...not-into-temptation-or-put-us-not-to-the-test

 

[Pilgrimshope]

[/QUOTE]

maybe try defining what it means for Christ to be tempted, and see if that fits with what we know about Him.

i can tell you, you won't be able to arrive at a conclusion that doesn't discard His deity without relaxing your definition of tempt until what it actually means is test ((just like the Greek original actually says))


i am certainly not the first to say this; you'll find it in Aquinas, too - -

Reply to Objection 3. As the Apostle says (Hebrews 4:15), Christ wished to be "tempted in all things, without sin." Now temptation which comes from an enemy can be without sin: because it comes about by merely outward suggestion. But temptation which comes from the flesh cannot be without sin, because such a temptation is caused by pleasure and concupiscence; and, as Augustine says (De Civ. Dei xix), "it is not without sin that 'the flesh desireth against the spirit.'" And hence Christ wished to be tempted by an enemy, but not by the flesh.​

​

what he, Augustine, Chrysostom, and many others argue, is that Christ being 'tempted' is not how we are tempted: that there being no sin in Him, no evil desire to be enticed in His heart, it is wholly external, not as it is with us, internal. it is therefore in English 'test' not tempt - - because temptation, as the current usage in our language defines it, involves ((as James defines)) the evil in our carnal heart being aroused, that is, internal source.

a Few good responses here in a catholic blog - -

https://latin.stackexchange.com/que...not-into-temptation-or-put-us-not-to-the-test

“i can tell you, you won't be able to arrive at a conclusion that doesn't discard His deity without relaxing your definition of tempt until what it actually means is test ((just like the Greek original actually says))”

he was “ tested “ lol in every way we are he felt the same feeling of our infirmity when we are tempted yet he didn’t sin ….that’s what it says. And no I won’t part with what it actually says . You ever read niv ? Maybe the kjv isn’t clear enough to you

a try reading through this section alone there’s alot more but

“But we see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for the suffering of death , now crowned with glory and honor through his death so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.



In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through what he suffered.

Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers and sisters. He says, “I will declare your name to my brothers and sisters; in the assembly I will sing your praises.” Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil— and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham’s descendants.

For this reason he had to be made like them, fully human in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people. Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.”

‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:9-12, 14-18‬ ‭NIV

 

[posthuman]

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14504b.htm

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the word "temptation" is used in various senses, the principal of which are the following:​

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• the act of testing or trying (Deuteronomy 4:34; Tobit 2:12; Luke 22:28; etc.);
• enticement to evil (Matthew 26:41; 1 Corinthians 10:13; etc.);
• the state of being tempted (Matthew 6:13; Luke 4:13; etc.);
• that which tempts or entices to evil (James 1:12; 2 Peter 2:9; etc.);
• the name of a place (Exodus 17:7; Deuteronomy 6:16; etc.)

Taken in an unfavourable sense as denoting enticement to evil, temptation cannot be referred directly to God or to Christ, so that when we read in Genesis 22:1, for instance, "God tempted Abraham", and in John 6:6, "Hoc autem dicebat tentans eum", literally: "This He [Jesus] said tempting him [Philip]", the expressions must be taken in the sense of testing, trying.​

 

[Pilgrimshope]

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14504b.htm

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the word "temptation" is used in various senses, the principal of which are the following:​

​

• the act of testing or trying (Deuteronomy 4:34; Tobit 2:12; Luke 22:28; etc.);
• enticement to evil (Matthew 26:41; 1 Corinthians 10:13; etc.);
• the state of being tempted (Matthew 6:13; Luke 4:13; etc.);
• that which tempts or entices to evil (James 1:12; 2 Peter 2:9; etc.);
• the name of a place (Exodus 17:7; Deuteronomy 6:16; etc.)

Taken in an unfavourable sense as denoting enticement to evil, temptation cannot be referred directly to God or to Christ, so that when we read in Genesis 22:1, for instance, "God tempted Abraham", and in John 6:6, "Hoc autem dicebat tentans eum", literally: "This He [Jesus] said tempting him [Philip]", the expressions must be taken in the sense of testing, trying.​

yeah see how you are trying to make it different when Jesus was tempted ? It says in the doctrine you aren’t reading that he was tempted just like we are it says in the doctrine he was not beyond feeling our feelings of infirmity ( this is what you aren’t accepting your position is we have a high priest who is not capable of feeling man’s feelings when tempted it says the opposite it says that’s not the case but rather he was tempted in every way like we are and yet he didn’t sin

your stuck trying to a change a single word but won’t read what it says in the doctrine

Look at what’s being explained your argument is “ Jesus the son of man the messiah was not capable of feeling what we feel when we’re tempted those feelings we feel”

Brother forget about the word temptation for a moment and read what’s being said other than the word tempted look at what he’s explaining about Jesus and us

“Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; ( Thisnos what your missing and sayong jesus was never touched with our infirmities our weaknesses in our flesh he wasn’t beyond feeling temptation ) but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:14-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

You can’t make our temptations different from what he experienced or there is no perfect man to intercede no high priest in heaven

“For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities;( this is your claim he’s beyond that not true ) but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

she was tempted like we are and felt what we feel our infirmity he’s not beyond being tempted it’s integral part of what he did to save us

 

[Pilgrimshope]

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14504b.htm

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​

the word "temptation" is used in various senses, the principal of which are the following:​

​

• the act of testing or trying (Deuteronomy 4:34; Tobit 2:12; Luke 22:28; etc.);
• enticement to evil (Matthew 26:41; 1 Corinthians 10:13; etc.);
• the state of being tempted (Matthew 6:13; Luke 4:13; etc.);
• that which tempts or entices to evil (James 1:12; 2 Peter 2:9; etc.);
• the name of a place (Exodus 17:7; Deuteronomy 6:16; etc.)

Taken in an unfavourable sense as denoting enticement to evil, temptation cannot be referred directly to God or to Christ, so that when we read in Genesis 22:1, for instance, "God tempted Abraham", and in John 6:6, "Hoc autem dicebat tentans eum", literally: "This He [Jesus] said tempting him [Philip]", the expressions must be taken in the sense of testing, trying.​

Remember when I said I quote
scriptures and then you explain why they are wrong ?all of those are temptations Jesus went through all of them just like we do

One of satans temptations to Jesus was to worship him that’s not sinful ?

 

[posthuman]

yeah see how you are trying to make it different when Jesus was tempted ?

i didn't write that. i quoted summa theologica and the catholic encyclopedia.

i began demonstrating that it is a historical POV through external references because you characterized it as 'just dome guy on the internet says so' after logic, right doctrine from the deity of Christ, the example of the priesthood written of in the law, and the description of James failed to convince you.

how about, give me your definition of "tempt"?

 

[posthuman]

Remember when I said I quote
scriptures and then you explain why they are wrong ?all of those are temptations Jesus went through all of them just like we do

One of satans temptations to Jesus was to worship him that’s not sinful ?

did Jesus desire worldly power?
we do.

do you understand the difference between external enticement ((testing)) and internal?

what was the calculus in the mind of Christ when He was given the opportunity to be the most powerful politician in the world in exchange for blasphemy?
did a part of Him want that and try to rationalize blaspheming?

if the answer is no, then He was tested, not tempted.
if the answer is yes then sin dwelt in His heart and there is no salvation because He is not a spotless sacrifice.

don't know how to make it more clear.

are you kjv-only? is that the problem here? the wine at Cana contained alcohol, and a farthing has never been a unit of currency in Israel much less in 30AD.

 

[posthuman]

he’s not beyond being tempted

please give your definition of "tempted" in this use case, since it has been demonstrated that there are multiple meanings for this English word.

 

[posthuman]

some people ridiculously address this with the following argument:

when Jesus came to earth, he voluntarily set aside access to certain things; one item of knowledge he gave up was being aware of his inability to sin​

some crazy church with terrible theology ​

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[Pilgrimshope]

please give your definition of "tempted" in this use case, since it has been demonstrated that there are multiple meanings for this English word.

tempted “ is a test lol when Jesus faced it and when we do no difference

This os what temptation looks like and sounds like and also a man overcoming temptation and choosing the good rather
than sin perfect example of dealing with temptation to sin

“And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

( he’s tempting Jesus to worship him and choose the world rather than god like he does to us )

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭4:5-8‬ ‭

That’s what we are supposed to do when facing temptation just what Jesus did when facing temptation .


rempterionnis when the tempter comes to the flesh and offers words and ideas to you like he did in Eden regarding the fruit “ you won’t die it’s going to make you like gods “ he was tempting them to eat the fruit with his cunning ways and they didn’t do what Jesus did when he faced temptation he never sinned , but he was tempted in all the same ways we are like above the very first commandment he was tempting Jesus to break but Jesus responded perfectly and drove him away like we are meant to learn to do from Jesus who showed us the way of victory

Jesus was tempted in every way he was tempted when going to the cross with the limits of homan suffering and pain and he never strayed from gods path set before him ….he struggled mightily at times with doing his fether Will but even then he overcame and was victorious over all the trials not only temptations brother everything we could possibly face is not foreign to Jesus

seven having the devil tempt you isn’t foreign to Jesus the son of man who had to suffer all he did including temptations to enter his glory that’s what makes the perfect man and high priest he lived life as a man perfectly and is now our champion and a son of man now exists at gods right hand our high preist and intercessor

you should consider that there’s no trial you can face that Jesus hasn’t overcome that’s truth and that’s our savior

Jesus Christ overcame temptation and never sinned lastly of this verse isnt about temptations to sin why do they say at the end “ yet he didn’t sin”

“For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities;

but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If that’s not about temptation why do they bring sin into it at the end of the sentance lol ? Saying “all this tempting happened and yet he did not sin “

It says that because he faced the same temptations we do felt our infirmities and overcame chose the good rejected the evil always every time not like us who fall for it again and again