TV censorship: the reprogamming and acceptance human suffering?

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I ask this  question as Ihsppen to be watching the film Deep Impact recently on Channel 4 (UK), and something caught my attention. The film used to show a scene where an astronaut named (Gus Partenza) drifts helplessly into the void of space, screaming—an emotional, tragic moment. But that part was cut out in the version I saw.

Yet later in the same film, there's another deeply emotional scene: a Black male journalist isn’t chosen for a rescue helicopter and breaks down crying. That scene was left in.

Both scenes are distressing and speak of the fear, loss death and the value of human life—so why censor one and not the other?

It made me wonder:

Are broadcasters censorship sanitising certain kinds of suffering while happy showing others?

And as Christians, do we have a responsibility to see (and help others see) the full reality of human pain—not just what's easy to digest?

Could selective censorship also be dulling our empathy or creating bias in how suffering must be portrayed?


Jesus never looked away from people’s anguish, whether in public or private, so why this change and should we speak up to demand as direct / indirect public funders of these media entities be demanding our media reflect that same willingness to bear witness—even when it’s hard to watch?

Is there more to this than meets the eye?

I’d really value your thoughts, especially from a biblical and pastoral point of view.

Grace and peace. 🙏
 

Subhumanoidal

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I ask this  question as Ihsppen to be watching the film Deep Impact recently on Channel 4 (UK), and something caught my attention. The film used to show a scene where an astronaut named (Gus Partenza) drifts helplessly into the void of space, screaming—an emotional, tragic moment. But that part was cut out in the version I saw.

Yet later in the same film, there's another deeply emotional scene: a Black male journalist isn’t chosen for a rescue helicopter and breaks down crying. That scene was left in.

Both scenes are distressing and speak of the fear, loss death and the value of human life—so why censor one and not the other?

It made me wonder:

Are broadcasters censorship sanitising certain kinds of suffering while happy showing others?

And as Christians, do we have a responsibility to see (and help others see) the full reality of human pain—not just what's easy to digest?

Could selective censorship also be dulling our empathy or creating bias in how suffering must be portrayed?


Jesus never looked away from people’s anguish, whether in public or private, so why this change and should we speak up to demand as direct / indirect public funders of these media entities be demanding our media reflect that same willingness to bear witness—even when it’s hard to watch?

Is there more to this than meets the eye?

I’d really value your thoughts, especially from a biblical and pastoral point of view.

Grace and peace. 🙏
Did you try going to the source, the TV channel, and asking for an explanation there? It seems the best place to get a definitive answer so you don't have to guess and assume.
Did they edit things out or get an edited version for TV.
I know here in the US movies shown on channels with commercials are always edited down to make room for commercials or to remove content that would be considered too explicit.
It is my personal opinion that it has no significant meaning. Not everything is a conspiracy. Nor do I believe it's a Christian's purpose to advocate for removal of such 'censorship'.
There are countless other ways to be spending your time doing something more fruitful.
 
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And as Christians, do we have a responsibility to see (and help others see) the full reality of human pain—not just what's easy to digest?
Honestly, the last thing that I need to see right now is anything related to human suffering. I not only have more than enough of that in my own life, but I also see it everywhere that I look in this wicked world. What would truly benefit me is something related to hope, or redemption, or God's mercy and grace.

Phl 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
 

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#4
I ask this  question as Ihsppen to be watching the film Deep Impact recently on Channel 4 (UK), and something caught my attention. The film used to show a scene where an astronaut named (Gus Partenza) drifts helplessly into the void of space, screaming—an emotional, tragic moment. But that part was cut out in the version I saw.

Yet later in the same film, there's another deeply emotional scene: a Black male journalist isn’t chosen for a rescue helicopter and breaks down crying. That scene was left in.

Both scenes are distressing and speak of the fear, loss death and the value of human life—so why censor one and not the other?

It made me wonder:

Are broadcasters censorship sanitising certain kinds of suffering while happy showing others?

And as Christians, do we have a responsibility to see (and help others see) the full reality of human pain—not just what's easy to digest?

Could selective censorship also be dulling our empathy or creating bias in how suffering must be portrayed?


Jesus never looked away from people’s anguish, whether in public or private, so why this change and should we speak up to demand as direct / indirect public funders of these media entities be demanding our media reflect that same willingness to bear witness—even when it’s hard to watch?

Is there more to this than meets the eye?

I’d really value your thoughts, especially from a biblical and pastoral point of view.

Grace and peace. 🙏

Have you read THIS thread?<
There's nothing but programing in mainstream TV and many movies.
I don't know if your personal illustration applies, but it's everywhere you look.

The C👁️A has a budget for inserting their propaganda into entertainment and media.
Every mainstream new corporation is a propaganda arm of "The Company" as the C👁️A is euphemistically called since the 1970s.
They are a conglomerate with many thousands of shell corporations that manipulate and make mucho dinero.

If you decide to listen to the videos I posted in that thread, you'll get more than a college education on the topic.
I have thousands of hours available that I didn't post and find it a very practical compilation of information for believers in Christ.

My gift of discernment of spirits gives me more interest in this field of study than the average person.
That has been a little bit discouraging in past times because many pastors are down on what they aren't up on, so to speak.
Do you know what I mean?
 

Gideon300

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I ask this  question as Ihsppen to be watching the film Deep Impact recently on Channel 4 (UK), and something caught my attention. The film used to show a scene where an astronaut named (Gus Partenza) drifts helplessly into the void of space, screaming—an emotional, tragic moment. But that part was cut out in the version I saw.

Yet later in the same film, there's another deeply emotional scene: a Black male journalist isn’t chosen for a rescue helicopter and breaks down crying. That scene was left in.

Both scenes are distressing and speak of the fear, loss death and the value of human life—so why censor one and not the other?

It made me wonder:

Are broadcasters censorship sanitising certain kinds of suffering while happy showing others?

And as Christians, do we have a responsibility to see (and help others see) the full reality of human pain—not just what's easy to digest?

Could selective censorship also be dulling our empathy or creating bias in how suffering must be portrayed?


Jesus never looked away from people’s anguish, whether in public or private, so why this change and should we speak up to demand as direct / indirect public funders of these media entities be demanding our media reflect that same willingness to bear witness—even when it’s hard to watch?

Is there more to this than meets the eye?

I’d really value your thoughts, especially from a biblical and pastoral point of view.

Grace and peace. 🙏
Expect nothing from worldly media. It is controlled by Satan. I'm not surprised if a white man's suffering is ignored while the heart strings are plucked for a black man. You only have to look at media's reporting of the Israel conflict. The focus is on the suffering of Gazans who started the war against Israel. I've yet to see mainstream media report on Israelis who are homeless and hungry because of attacks by Hamas and Hezbollah.

Satan does not care what people get angry and bitter about, as long as he can express his foul nature through mankind. He is the thief, the liar, the murderer and the destroyer.
 

Lynx

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I ask this  question as Ihsppen to be watching the film Deep Impact recently on Channel 4 (UK), and something caught my attention. The film used to show a scene where an astronaut named (Gus Partenza) drifts helplessly into the void of space, screaming—an emotional, tragic moment. But that part was cut out in the version I saw.

Yet later in the same film, there's another deeply emotional scene: a Black male journalist isn’t chosen for a rescue helicopter and breaks down crying. That scene was left in.

Both scenes are distressing and speak of the fear, loss death and the value of human life—so why censor one and not the other?

It made me wonder:

Are broadcasters censorship sanitising certain kinds of suffering while happy showing others?

And as Christians, do we have a responsibility to see (and help others see) the full reality of human pain—not just what's easy to digest?

Could selective censorship also be dulling our empathy or creating bias in how suffering must be portrayed?


Jesus never looked away from people’s anguish, whether in public or private, so why this change and should we speak up to demand as direct / indirect public funders of these media entities be demanding our media reflect that same willingness to bear witness—even when it’s hard to watch?

Is there more to this than meets the eye?

I’d really value your thoughts, especially from a biblical and pastoral point of view.

Grace and peace. 🙏
One problem with your issue: None of it is real.

"Jesus never looked away from people's anguish" doesn't apply here because you are talking about a movie. It's all acting. Like, not real people and not real anguish.

Now if you were talking about a news story where they showed one side and not the other, that would be different. Your point would be valid.

Mind you, I'm not saying they didn't edit that movie you are talking about for a specific reason. I'm not saying they did. I'm just saying the point you tried to make does not apply to actors in a movie.
 
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Honestly, the last thing that I need to see right now is anything related to human suffering. I not only have more than enough of that in my own life, but I also see it everywhere that I look in this wicked world. What would truly benefit me is something related to hope, or redemption, or God's mercy and grace.

Phl 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
... and look away from suffering of others?
 
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Did you try going to the source, the TV channel, and asking for an explanation there? It seems the best place to get a definitive answer so you don't have to guess and assume.
Did they edit things out or get an edited version for TV.
I know here in the US movies shown on channels with commercials are always edited down to make room for commercials or to remove content that would be considered too explicit.
It is my personal opinion that it has no significant meaning. Not everything is a conspiracy. Nor do I believe it's a Christian's purpose to advocate for removal of such 'censorship'.
There are countless other ways to be spending your time doing something more fruitful.
Did you try going to the source, the TV channel, and asking for an explanation there? It seems the best place to get a definitive answer so you don't have to guess and assume.
Did they edit things out or get an edited version for TV.
I know here in the US movies shown on channels with commercials are always edited down to make room for commercials or to remove content that would be considered too explicit.
It is my personal opinion that it has no significant meaning. Not everything is a conspiracy. Nor do I believe it's a Christian's purpose to advocate for removal of such 'censorship'.
There are countless other ways to be spending your time doing something more fruitful.
Did they edit things out or get an edited version for TV....?

Can say for definite how it works but what I so know is that the main UK TV channel/s use to show the clip when the astronaut is shown from the vantage point of him looking out in his helmet, and crying out as he is blown off the comet into deep space unable to return. This clip lasting approx three seconds has now been removed..

What changed? Maybe TV channels really have become more sensitised to showing certain thought provoking, emotionally disturbing upsetting scenes?
 
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notmywillbuthine

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... and look away from suffering of others?
No. Definitely not. I regularly recognize human suffering, and I offer to help alleviate it if I am able to. At least, I pray for others pretty regularly. However, when I make that my primary focus, then I tend to get overwhelmed and faint in my mind. When I set my focus on God and receive grace, mercy, strength, and wisdom from him, then I am best equipped to help others.
 

Lynx

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Did they edit things out or get an edited version for TV....?

Can say for definite how it works but what I so know is that the main UK TV channel/s use to show the clip when the astronaut is shown from the vantage point of him looking out in his helmet, and crying out as he is blown off the comet into deep space unable to return. This clip lasting approx three seconds has now been removed..

What changed? Maybe TV channels really have become more sensitised to showing certain thought provoking, emotionally disturbing upsetting scenes?
You are just bound and determined to make this a conspiracy theory.

There is nothing more anybody can say here. Have fun believing what you choose to believe.
 
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Have you read THIS thread?<
There's nothing but programing in mainstream TV and many movies.
I don't know if your personal illustration applies, but it's everywhere you look.

The C👁️A has a budget for inserting their propaganda into entertainment and media.
Every mainstream new corporation is a propaganda arm of "The Company" as the C👁️A is euphemistically called since the 1970s.
They are a conglomerate with many thousands of shell corporations that manipulate and make mucho dinero.

If you decide to listen to the videos I posted in that thread, you'll get more than a college education on the topic.
I have thousands of hours available that I didn't post and find it a very practical compilation of information for believers in Christ.

My gift of discernment of spirits gives me more interest in this field of study than the average person.
That has been a little bit discouraging in past times because many pastors are down on what they aren't up on, so to speak.
Do you know what I mean?
So in the two situations i mentioned, you think there's a C👁️A agenda? If so what would your research / knowledge, instincts say that this is?
 
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Have you read THIS thread?<
There's nothing but programing in mainstream TV and many movies.
I don't know if your personal illustration applies, but it's everywhere you look.

The C👁️A has a budget for inserting their propaganda into entertainment and media.
Every mainstream new corporation is a propaganda arm of "The Company" as the C👁️A is euphemistically called since the 1970s.
They are a conglomerate with many thousands of shell corporations that manipulate and make mucho dinero.

If you decide to listen to the videos I posted in that thread, you'll get more than a college education on the topic.
I have thousands of hours available that I didn't post and find it a very practical compilation of information for believers in Christ.

My gift of discernment of spirits gives me more interest in this field of study than the average person.
That has been a little bit discouraging in past times because many pastors are down on what they aren't up on, so to speak.
Do you know what I mean?
So in the two situations i mentioned, you think there's a C👁️A agenda? If so what would your research / knowledge, instincts say that this is?
 
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You are just bound and determined to make this a conspiracy theory.

There is nothing more anybody can say here. Have fun believing what you choose to believe.
Wow!! Cant anyone mention / discuss something that they've seen in the Media as you have done with this particular topic?
 
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No. Definitely not. I regularly recognize human suffering, and I offer to help alleviate it if I am able to. At least, I pray for others pretty regularly. However, when I make that my primary focus, then I tend to get overwhelmed and faint in my mind. When I set my focus on God and receive grace, mercy, strength, and wisdom from him, then I am best equipped to help others.
Would you then say that for Yr own wellbeing/ state of mind you need to be more of a passive recipient / less proactive to human suffering?
 

Lynx

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Wow!! Cant anyone mention / discuss something that they've seen in the Media as you have done with this particular topic?
Sure, you can say whatever you want. It's an open forum.

Likewise, I can say whatever I want. Like making the observation that you have made up your mind and nothing is going to change it.

You keep arguing with everybody. It is obvious that you have already decided what you choose to believe and you will not admit any variation from that.

So you can say anything you want, and nobody else who disagrees with you can say anything they want? Is that how this works here?
 
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#16
So in the two situations i mentioned, you think there's a C👁️A agenda? If so what would your research / knowledge, instincts say that this is?

It's hard for me to comment on the movie since I didn't watch it.
There is however far more influence on the entire industry, as well as other art forms, than we realize.
Pop culture is in large part influenced by them.

Case in point is Gloria Steinem.
She worked for The Company and they published Ms Magazine to influence women to become prideful and adopt their Feminist Doctrines. This was back when magazines were much more popular. History shows that there was a concerted effort that broke up God's institution of marriage. Over half of marriages end in divorce even among professing Christians.

Once you learn what to look for, you can discern the deception when you're exposed to it. If you think that's the case with the examples you saw, I suspect that you have good reason to believe that. I try to limit my exposure to things like that and it's good that you are explaining that too.
 
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Sure, you can say whatever you want. It's an open forum.

Likewise, I can say whatever I want. Like making the observation that you have made up your mind and nothing is going to change it.

You keep arguing with everybody. It is obvious that you have already decided what you choose to believe and you will not admit any variation from that.

So you can say anything you want, and nobody else who disagrees with you can say anything they want? Is that how this works here?
I keep arguing with everybody ?

Definition of Argue:..

Argue (verb) means to express reasons or give evidence in support of or against something, often in a way that involves disagreement or persuasion.

It has a few common uses:
To debate or dispute something.

To reason logically or make a case for something.

To persuade or attempt to convince...


So Lynx, I'm not quite catching what point your trying to make here when I / people visit this CC forum.

Am I doing something wrong?

Hopefully me asking you this question isn't construed as me arguing!