Trumps Tariffs

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tourist said:
I totally concur with your estimation. I was never a MAGA, just an ordinary Republican. Seems that MAGA has turned into a cult with Trump as their leader. Kind of dangerous actually.
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Unlike what, the DNC? Are you kidding me? You think people backing the president they voted for is a cult, but don't mention the religion of the world that walk lockstep on issues like abortion for any reason up to the day of birth (child sacrifice) and say it's awesome, but to execute a child rapist/murderer is a bad thing, saying the US is as racist now as it ever was, but then say we can't deport any brown people from this racist hellscape, say girls can become boys and boys can become girls and it is a good thing to use drugs in this process as early as possible in the child's life, that prayer and the 10 commandments in the school are unacceptable, but books about kids being anally raped and molesting each other with a strap on is just fine in the school library.

I'm trying to understand how this Trump cult you're so ashamed of is even a cult at all, but this satanic death/sex cult I just described, the DNC doesn't even warrant a mention. Trump stopping the countries that have been destroying us for generations='s a cult, but the other half of the country that has been actively destroying our country for generations not worth mentioning, or even worse you're implying they'd do better.

Seems to me you're just swallowing the real cults Kool-Aid yourself, to be honest.
 
The price of Gold is up 21% since Trump was inaugurated in January of 2025.

MIGA! Make Inflation Great Again.
 
ZNP said:
I think it is a major error to assume that the things that Trump is doing is because he is "stupid" or "foolish". Instead it is much safer to assume he is "crazy like a fox" and that everything he is doing is part of a plan to accomplish exactly what we are seeing happen. With that in mind consider what he is doing.

1. Tariffs on everyone.

then

2. No just Tariffs on China

then

3. No, we will pause tariffs on certain key products

then

4. But beware, cause we may put the tariffs on them in the future.

then

5. China and the US begin a tit for tat escalation to absurd levels of tariff.

One thing all investors hate is uncertainty, and you have seen this in the stock markets as they are extremely riled up. You measure the level of "being riled up" by the VIX, a measure of volatility and it is extremely high.

One result of all this is that interest rates on the ten year treasury and the 30 year treasury are both up significantly. That means several things. first, our interest payments on $36 trillion debt will increase. Second thing is it indicates it is harder to find buyers for our debt and that in turn could either mean the debt continues to increase at a faster rate or the Fed prints the money causing inflation to rise at a faster rate. We can see the rate of the depreciation of the dollar in the price of Gold which for the last 15 years has increased at an annualized rate of 9%. That means investing in bonds is a losing proposition, especially when there is a gold backed currency as an option.

This reminds me of these verses in Luke 19

41 And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, 42 Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. 43 For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, 44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

That which has been is that which shall be. All three gospels record different events which I believe is because they are speaking to three different groups. This account is not in Matthew or Mark. I think Luke is speaking to the church, especially in the US right before the rapture. They don't see that the world is digging a trench about the church, they have compassed you round about, and they shall raise you to the ground. Is this a reference to what happened to Jerusalem and the temple? Of course it is. But in Luke I see this event as being prophetic for what happens to the apostate church. These are the ones that should have known the time of her visitation but didn't.

45 And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought; 46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves.

Immediately after saying this Jesus tears down the financial system. What is DOGE doing? It is identifying all the thieves in the government and casting them out.

So then I don't think Trump is behaving in a foolish way. Instead I believe he is deliberately tearing down the US dollar to replace it with a one world digital currency. Obviously he won't do that, but he will make it completely untenable for the US to continue with our fiat currency as we have been.
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Hi ZNP, what would a 2 for 1 revaluation for the U.S. Dollar do to help?
blessngs
 
NightTwister said:
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -- John Adams
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One guy's opinion on the Constitution is not the constitution. It literally says you can't pass laws that favor anyone particular religion.
I wish every American would read the founding myth by Andrew seidel. It completely destroys the myth that America was built on judeo-christian principles
 
Dude653 said:
One guy's opinion on the Constitution is not the constitution. It literally says you can't pass laws that favor anyone particular religion.
I wish every American would read the founding myth by Andrew seidel. It completely destroys the myth that America was built on judeo-christian principles
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"One guy's opinion." :LOL:
 
tourist said:
MAGA seems like a cult to me. What's with all of the Trump hats and T-shirts, and other paraphernalia that bears his name. I have no problem with the premise though, Make America Great Again.
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By that reasoning people wearing Tshirts for rock bands or hats for sports teams are also in a cult.
 
mailmandan said:
China Starts Losing It Over Trump Tariffs — Communist Apparatchik Warns Those ‘American Peasants Will Suffer’

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/china-starts-losing-it-trump-tariffs-communist-apparatchik/

China Halts All Deliveries of Boeing Jets Amid Escalating Tariff War with the U.S.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/china-halts-all-deliveries-boeing-jets-amid-escalating/
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They are going to need those parts very very soon....or else they aren't going anywhere except by boat or land.
 
Dude653 said:
One guy's opinion on the Constitution is not the constitution. It literally says you can't pass laws that favor anyone particular religion.
I wish every American would read the founding myth by Andrew seidel. It completely destroys the myth that America was built on judeo-christian principles
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That's not what it says or intends.

You might need to consult Black's Law Dictionary to see the definition of terms used in the constitution and bill of rights.

The letter Thomas Jefferson wrote that included the separation of "church and state" was alluding to the fact that each State was a Christian State and the Federal Government was a "State" in which contained the 13 Churches.

Even the most "Heathen" of the founders Benjamin Franklin , wrote an autobiography that the first paragraph details his truly heartfelt Thanksgiving to God for seeing him through his life. He details how he tried to move away from all religion but realized that he needed God more than God needed him.

So the notion that the USA is anything but a Christian nation is very hopeful wishing....but there's no fairy going to fulfill that wish.
 
JohnDB said:
They are going to need those parts very very soon....or else they aren't going anywhere except by boat or land.
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I'm glad that we recently returned from our yearly one week vacation. We flew Southwest in a Boeing 737. Things could get very interesting from here on out if these tariffs don't get settled.
 
mailmandan said:
Gold is money. Everything else is credit.
JP Morgan.
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So what I am hearing you say is that the "full faith and credit" in the US has been shrinking by about 9% per year for the last 15 years.
 
ZNP said:
By that reasoning people wearing Tshirts for rock bands or hats for sports teams are also in a cult.
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Possibly. You raised a valid point. Either way, I believe in Making America Great Again, but certainly do not believe every word that comes out of Trump's mouth.

I'm on social security and a veteran and thanks to Musk, with Trump's blessing, those agencies have been slashed, thousands fired arbitrarily. Try getting a human being to answer the phone in a social security office is almost impossible. Also, a lot of offices to be closed. Not a good thing. Staff at VA slashed too.

I voted for Trump but very disappointed right now.

The tariff thing has been a total fiasco. Prices at the grocery store are certain to rise.

This is not what I call Making America Great Again.
 
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NightTwister said:
"One guy's opinion." :LOL:
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Yeah it's just that. The Constitution says what it says.
Again, if you want theocracy, move to Saudi Arabia

American Christians... All we want to do is force our ideology on people and violate people's constitutional rights. I don't know why people don't like us. We're so persecuted
 
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