Trumps Tariffs

[HeIsHere]

Who has more freedom to preach the Gospel? Canada or America?

I still see that all churches open and I still see street preachers in the bigger cities downtown preaching the Gospel, I see high school students protesting abortion outside their school, I still see tracts distributed on campus, I still see "Jesus in the City" happening a yearly event, I still see tracts given out in the downtown of the big city.

Freedom of Religion:
Section 2(a) of the Charter protects freedom of religion, allowing individuals to "entertain such religious beliefs as a person chooses, the right to declare religious beliefs openly and without fear of hindrance or reprisal, and the right to manifest religious belief by worship and practise or by teaching and dissemination".

 

[HeIsHere]

why did it happen? what led to the pastor getting dragged away??

It wasn't for preaching the Gospel.

Was he even preaching the Gospel, telling people that Jesus died and rose from the dead for them, calling them to a restored fellowship with God?

Probably not.

And anyway were talking about free trade and which countries had the highest trade freedom and it seems the USA is not at the top of the list.

 

[MrE]

Trade freedom index.
Heritage Foundation

Here is the data... we score higher than the USA and in the world USA does even worse, Singapore at the highest score at 95.

Sad such a powerful country is reduced to blaming the rest of the world for all it self inflicted problems.

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This is rather silly.

It's not measuring "free trade" per se. It's measuring
economic freedom."

An honest actor would include this information:

How do you measure economic freedom?
We measure economic freedom based on 12 quantitative and qualitative factors, grouped into four broad categories, or pillars, of economic freedom:

• Rule of Law (property rights, government integrity, judicial effectiveness);
• Government Size (government spending, tax burden, fiscal health);
• Regulatory Efficiency (business freedom, labor freedom, monetary freedom); and
• Open Markets (trade freedom, investment freedom, financial freedom).

America does have some very serious problems-- because it has some entire States that have been economically destroyed by decades of Democrat governance.

California alone-- has a population that exceeds all of Canada's and housing is completely unaffordable for young people starting out. Taxation is through the roof, and Sacramento sets the housing policies so there is no local control. Regulations are insurmountable. Government is bloated beyond belief.

So in light of the economic freedom criteria that the Heritage Foundation is measuring, how do you think California is doing? Now do New York, New Jersey, Michigan, Illinois, Oregon, Washington....... and so on.

@HeIsHere do try to be intellectually honest in your presentation. It's a bad look right now.

 

[HeIsHere]

This is rather silly.

It's not measuring "free trade" per se. It's measuring
economic freedom."

An honest actor would include this information:

How do you measure economic freedom?
We measure economic freedom based on 12 quantitative and qualitative factors, grouped into four broad categories, or pillars, of economic freedom:

• Rule of Law (property rights, government integrity, judicial effectiveness);
• Government Size (government spending, tax burden, fiscal health);
• Regulatory Efficiency (business freedom, labor freedom, monetary freedom); and
• Open Markets (trade freedom, investment freedom, financial freedom).

America does have some very serious problems-- because it has some entire States that have been economically destroyed by decades of Democrat governance.

California alone-- has a population that exceeds all of Canada's and housing is completely unaffordable for young people starting out. Taxation is through the roof, and Sacramento sets the housing policies so there is no local control. Regulations are insurmountable. Government is bloated beyond belief.

So in light of the economic freedom criteria that the Heritage Foundation is measuring, how do you think California is doing? Now do New York, New Jersey, Michigan, Illinois, Oregon, Washington....... and so on.

@HeIsHere do try to be intellectually honest in your presentation. It's a bad look right now.

The data is from the trade freedom index.

Definition:

The Trade freedom index is based on two indicators: the trade-weighted average tariff rate and non-tariff barriers (including quantity, price, regulatory, customs and investment restrictions, and direct government intervention).

A trade freedom index measures how much international trade is restricted by tariffs and other barriers in a given country. It assesses the extent to which a country's policies allow for the free flow of goods and services across borders

Components of a Trade Freedom Index:

• Trade-weighted average tariff rate:
  This measures the average tariff rate applied to a country's imports, considering the importance of different goods in international trade.
  
  Non-tariff barriers (NTBs):
  These are restrictions that go beyond tariffs, such as quotas, export subsidies, regulatory requirements, and other policies that can hinder international trade
  

More data.



2023 USA
75.4

2023 Canada
83.4

source
source

Canada still has less trade barriers than the USA according to this metric.

I think you are not being honest going to a different scale.. WOW!
Maybe go back to school and take a course in data management and statistics.
Engaging you was against my better judgement.

 

[MrE]

The data is from the trade freedom index.

Definition:

The Trade freedom index is based on two indicators: the trade-weighted average tariff rate and non-tariff barriers (including quantity, price, regulatory, customs and investment restrictions, and direct government intervention).

A trade freedom index measures how much international trade is restricted by tariffs and other barriers in a given country. It assesses the extent to which a country's policies allow for the free flow of goods and services across borders

Components of a Trade Freedom Index:

• Trade-weighted average tariff rate:
  This measures the average tariff rate applied to a country's imports, considering the importance of different goods in international trade.
  
  Non-tariff barriers (NTBs):
  These are restrictions that go beyond tariffs, such as quotas, export subsidies, regulatory requirements, and other policies that can hinder international trade

More data.

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2023 USA
75.4

2023 Canada
83.4

source
source

Canada still has less trade barriers than the USA according to this metric.

I think you are not being honest going to a different scale.. WOW!
Maybe go back to school and take a course in data management and statistics.
Engaging you was against my better judgement.

More dishonesty.

You cited The Heritage Foundation's "Economic Freedom Index" data, and now you link the "Trade Freedom Index" information.

They are not the same.


And for the record-- I broke off our engagement long ago, over things just like this. How can we have a relationship when you can't be honest with me?

 

[MrE]

This is the Trump effect and the purpose of tariffs. The intent is to bring back American manufacturing, supply and demand-- right here. This means American jobs, and American economic growth.

Home Depot said it plans to hold the line on prices.

The retailer has been pushing to shift production out of China. It is also working with suppliers to keep prices steady despite tariffs, Chief Financial Officer Richard McPhail said in an interview.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...s-guidance-as-sales-top-estimates/ar-AA1F7twl

 

[HeIsHere]

More dishonesty.

You cited The Heritage Foundation's "Economic Freedom Index" data, and now you link the "Trade Freedom Index" information.

They are not the same.


And for the record-- I broke off our engagement long ago, over things just like this. How can we have a relationship when you can't be honest with me?

This is from my post, so you falsely accuse.

Trade freedom index.
Heritage Foundation

The data is derived from the Heritage Foundation, that is why I sourced it.
I was thinking people had the ability to find the data set, apparently not.

Here is the Link

 

[MrE]

This is from my post, so you falsely accuse.



The data is derived from the Heritage Foundation, that is why I sourced it.
I was thinking people had the ability to find the data set, apparently not.

Here is the Link

That was the original post-- then when I pointed out the criteria that the Heritage Foundation uses, you flipped the script and cited source material from Human Progress -which is the CATO Institute. The Heritage Foundation is considered the number one think tank in terms of influence, while CATO, run by the Koch Brothers, isn't even in the same league, never mind the same ball park.

Swing and a miss.

 

[HeIsHere]

That was the original post-- then when I pointed out the criteria that the Heritage Foundation uses, you flipped the script and cited source material from Human Progress -which is the CATO Institute. The Heritage Foundation is considered the number one think tank in terms of influence, while CATO, run by the Koch Brothers, isn't even in the same league, never mind the same ball park.

Swing and a miss.

I was adding to the data from another source.
I am sorry you do not understand how data and information works.

Here it a snapshot from the Heritage Foundation, the other images represent the data better since the entire chart is large.

It is really sad the lengths you are going to maintain a narrative sold to you by the commander in chief.

 

[MrE]

I was adding to the data from another source.
I am sorry you do not understand how data and information works.

Here it a snapshot from the Heritage Foundation, the other images represent the data better.

It is really sad the lengths you are going to maintain a narrative sold to you by the commander in chief.
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Can you be helped? Or are you just too stubborn?

If you want to look at Trade Freedom, have you considered what that even means? Have you looked at it in terms of percentage of GDP? Canada absolutely needs free trade agreements because they are completely reliant on outside markets for so much of the things they want and need and cannot provide for themselves because of it's tiny labor force. The US on the other hand does not need free trade agreements, so they are more protectionist (and moving to become even moreso) because they can afford to be. It's the number one global marketplace by order of magnitude.

You are so deep in the weeds by doubling down that I can't even remember the point you were trying to make while misinterpreting the Heritage Foundation ranking. Oh yeah-- it was "Canada ranks higher than the US" on free trade. So what? It's meaningless.

Do you know who is number one? Luxenburg. Do you care? No-- no one does, because Luxenburg is like a pimple on the bottom of a camel traversing a desert. It has a wee tiny economic footprint. And Canada is the equivalent of perhaps a camel with a toothache-- more significant that a rump pimple, but still rather meaningless when compared to those two big humps that actually carry the goods-- US and China.

Luxenburg GDP-- $85 billion
Canada GDP-- $2.1 trillion (see why Luxenburg outranking Canada is meaningless?)
China GDP-- $17 trillion
US GDP-- $27 trillion (see why Canada outranking the US is meaningless?)

 

[HeIsHere]

Can you be helped? Or are you just too stubborn?

If you want to look at Trade Freedom, have you considered what that even means? Have you looked at it in terms of percentage of GDP? Canada absolutely needs free trade agreements because they are completely reliant on outside markets for so much of the things they want and need and cannot provide for themselves because of it's tiny labor force. The US on the other hand does not need free trade agreements, so they are more protectionist (and moving to become even moreso) because they can afford to be. It's the number one global marketplace by order of magnitude.

You are so deep in the weeds by doubling down that I can't even remember the point you were trying to make while misinterpreting the Heritage Foundation ranking. Oh yeah-- it was "Canada ranks higher than the US" on free trade. So what? It's meaningless.

Do you know who is number one? Luxenburg. Do you care? No-- no one does, because Luxenburg is like a pimple on the bottom of a camel traversing a desert. It has a wee tiny economic footprint. And Canada is the equivalent of perhaps a camel with a toothache-- more significant that a rump pimple, but still rather meaningless when compared to those two big humps that actually carry the goods-- US and China.

Luxenburg GDP-- $85 billion
Canada GDP-- $2.1 trillion (see why Luxenburg outranking Canada is meaningless?)
China GDP-- $17 trillion
US GDP-- $27 trillion (see why Canada outranking the US is meaningless?)

Been doing some learnin I see....

That means a level playing field with either no tariffs or reciprocal tariffs that balance fair trade.

You support Trump's tariffs but you also state the USA does not need free trade agreements.
Did you notice China never called.
And buy the way a per capita measure is far more accurate.
Okay, over and out.

 

[ZNP]

I'm sorry to ask this, but perhaps I missed it and this question has already been answered. Why is free trade a better goal for a nation than fair trade?

I would also point out that the US used to have fair trade when in exchange for all the stuff we were buying from others they were buying our bonds. That was balanced trade in US dollars. But now that they have stopped buying US debt they shouldn't be surprised that we are changing our trade agreements to balance the trade. One last point, trade that is not balanced is not sustainable. If it was simply with one small country the US could shoulder that, but now it is with all nations so of course there is no other option but to change the trade agreements. If you don't like the agreement, don't trade with the US, simple.

 

[HeIsHere]

I'm sorry to ask this, but perhaps I missed it and this question has already been answered. Why is free trade a better goal for a nation than fair trade?

I would also point out that the US used to have fair trade when in exchange for all the stuff we were buying from others they were buying our bonds. That was balanced trade in US dollars. But now that they have stopped buying US debt they shouldn't be surprised that we are changing our trade agreements to balance the trade. One last point, trade that is not balanced is not sustainable. If it was simply with one small country the US could shoulder that, but now it is with all nations so of course there is no other option but to change the trade agreements. If you don't like the agreement, don't trade with the US, simple.

And that is what nations are doing and will continue to do and I bet in time the USA will no longer be the top currency for trade.

 

[ZNP]

And that is what nations are doing and will continue to do and I bet in time the USA will no longer be the top currency for trade.

Yes, that is an obvious bet unless you give us a time limit. When you say "in time" be more specific.

 

[MrE]

I'm sorry to ask this, but perhaps I missed it and this question has already been answered. Why is free trade a better goal for a nation than fair trade?

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That is the heart of the issue. Free trade would be fair trade. You can sell your stuff to me and vice versa, no barriers. Trump’s goal is free trade. But since there are numerous tariffs already in place, he needs to eliminate them. The tool he is using is a hammer and that hammer is reciprocal tariffs.

 

[ZNP]

That is the heart of the issue. Free trade would be fair trade. You can sell your stuff to me and vice versa, no barriers. Trump’s goal is free trade. But since there are numerous tariffs already in place, he needs to eliminate them. The tool he is using is a hammer and that hammer is reciprocal tariffs.

I don't think it is a coincidence that he did this at a time when there is $5 trillion being used to build AI "Factories" (they don't call them data centers anymore) and when we have the technology to replace all of China's manufacturing here in the US.

 

[HeIsHere]

Yes, that is an obvious bet unless you give us a time limit. When you say "in time" be more specific.

I doubt anyone really knows, behaviour is a significant part of the equation and sometimes it is not what is anticipated.

 

[HeIsHere]

That is the heart of the issue. Free trade would be fair trade. You can sell your stuff to me and vice versa, no barriers. Trump’s goal is free trade. But since there are numerous tariffs already in place, he needs to eliminate them. The tool he is using is a hammer and that hammer is reciprocal tariffs.

And China still did not call, lol.

 

[ZNP]

I doubt anyone really knows, behaviour is a significant part of the equation and sometimes it is not what is anticipated.

You can't narrow it down, are we talking a year, a decade, a century?

 

[HeIsHere]

You can't narrow it down, are we talking a year, a decade, a century?

Since you excel in date setting I will leave relinquish that area of expertise to you!