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There are two reasons that historians give.

1. The Jews were pushed into Ghettos long before Hitler came around by the various kings to keep them poor and in control. As a result they created Capitalism and banking because it was the only way they could thrive under this racist policy. As a result of that the Jews thrived while the common people languished under the dictatorial rule of the tyrant kings. The Jews exposed how corrupt and incompetent the rulers were, feeding their hatred which others ascribed to "illogical racism". Wasn't illogical, a thief doesn't like to be exposed. This is why all the rulers around Israel today hate them. They were in total poverty, a basket case when they moved to Israel in 1948 but today they are far and away the most prosperous nation in the Middle East. The other nations had vast amounts of oil, Egypt got huge financial support from the US, and yet Israel has put them all to shame.

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2. Karl Marx was a Jew and they hated communism. This is a flimsy argument in general, but makes sense for Hitler. He came to power over a false flag event blaming the communists for burning the Reichstag building. His Nazi, Germany nationalist party, was in direct opposition to the communists. He used the Jews as scapegoats, trying to say that they were communists snuck into Germany to bring it down. He called the Holocaust the final solution because by robbing all the Jews he was able to fund his war machine.

Now according to the Bible all the nations of the Earth are under the authority of the Prince of the Air, which is Satan. The whole world lies in the evil one. Therefore it would be a legitimate complaint for Satan to go to God and say "your people are ruining my kingdom, according to your covenant with them they are supposed to be in Israel and ever since 1917 they can return". All of that is true and you can see how God, as a righteous judge, would give Israel 22 years to comply but ultimately would allow Hitler to carry out the holocaust only after exhausting numerous warnings to the Jews to leave Europe.
 
Righteous judgement is not about "deserving."
what does the word righteous mean? something that's good, something is virtuous. he said the murder of 6 million people was good and virtuous.

still waiting for scripture that says you killed Jesus now I'm sending Hitler to kill you.
 
again. I have the receipt.

"you killed jesus, the same will be done to you, this is righteous judgment

translation, the murder of 6 million people was good and virtuous.

For one it's a forum, it's a very uncomplicated template, anyone can go back and read the entire conversation in its full context with timestamps to boot to understand the flow of the coversation. We all have receipts Dude, we were active participants in the discussion. Look man you're following the venom sequence right here in this post.

That's why what Dude, and the other bad-faith-actors, always do is first isolates people words, usually even mid-sentence, he takes it way out of context, then he fills in the gaps that he himself made with BS that he himself interjects that nobody was even talking about even contextually, and then he is offended by his own crap that he himself interjected and then crybuly Karens to shut down topics and ban people using it as leverage.
 
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what does the word righteous mean? something that's good, something is virtuous. he said the murder of 6 million people was good and virtuous.

still waiting for scripture that says you killed Jesus now I'm sending Hitler to kill you.


Well, I do not agree that the Holocaust is in any way the fulfilling of prophecy.

God does execute righteous judgement >> Sodom and Gemorrah, the Flood, 70AD.

However, nothing he stated is hate speech or anti-semitic.

Semitic is a type of language spoken, the term is rather useless really.
 
The truth no matter how hard or where it leads is the anti-venom.

Yes but at least Dude is who he is, he is a straight shooter in a sense, unlike others who feign being agreeable to service their own emotional needs.
 
There are two reasons that historians give.

1. The Jews were pushed into Ghettos long before Hitler came around by the various kings to keep them poor and in control. As a result they created Capitalism and banking because it was the only way they could thrive under this racist policy. As a result of that the Jews thrived while the common people languished under the dictatorial rule of the tyrant kings. The Jews exposed how corrupt and incompetent the rulers were, feeding their hatred which others ascribed to "illogical racism". Wasn't illogical, a thief doesn't like to be exposed. This is why all the rulers around Israel today hate them. They were in total poverty, a basket case when they moved to Israel in 1948 but today they are far and away the most prosperous nation in the Middle East. The other nations had vast amounts of oil, Egypt got huge financial support from the US, and yet Israel has put them all to shame.
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Exactly, the Jews have been abused and treated unfairly for many years. Greed was one of the reasons. Hitler needed someone to blame and the Jews were the outsiders in society.



2. Karl Marx was a Jew and they hated communism. This is a flimsy argument in general, but makes sense for Hitler. He came to power over a false flag event blaming the communists for burning the Reichstag building. His Nazi, Germany nationalist party, was in direct opposition to the communists. He used the Jews as scapegoats, trying to say that they were communists snuck into Germany to bring it down. He called the Holocaust the final solution because by robbing all the Jews he was able to fund his war machine.
Well the final solution was the genocide of the Jews, that was what Hitler was aiming for. Neither reason is because the Jews did anything wrong.


Now according to the Bible all the nations of the Earth are under the authority of the Prince of the Air, which is Satan. The whole world lies in the evil one. Therefore it would be a legitimate complaint for Satan to go to God and say "your people are ruining my kingdom, according to your covenant with them they are supposed to be in Israel and ever since 1917 they can return". All of that is true and you can see how God, as a righteous judge, would give Israel 22 years to comply but ultimately would allow Hitler to carry out the holocaust only after exhausting numerous warnings to the Jews to leave Europe.

Well, that's an opinion and a whole lot of speculation but I don't believe it's a Biblical POV.
 
Yes but at least Dude is who he is, he is a straight shooter in a sense, unlike others who feign being agreeable to service their own emotional needs.

Nah cause it's a crooked tactic. Literally twisting people's words, context, and intentions. It belies an ulterior motive, they just don't like Christianity, or conservatives, or this or that person personally; that's their real issue. That's why it's bad faith, it's not realy even about the subject at hand, it's about their own ego and their own little personal internal psychodrama.
 
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Well, I do not agree that the Holocaust is in any way the fulfilling of prophecy.

God does execute righteous judgement >> Sodom and Gemorrah, the Flood, 70AD.

However, nothing he stated is hate speech or anti-semitic.

Semitic is a type of language spoken, the term is rather useless really.
Sodom and Gomorrah was yahweh's response to a pattern of behavior. the Jews were murdered for existing
 
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Nah cause it's a crooked tactic. Literally twisting people's words, context, and intentions. It belies an ulterior motive, they just don't like Christianity, or conservatives, or this or that person personally; that's their real issue. That's why it's bad faith, it's not realy even about the subject at hand, it's about their own ego and their own little personal internal psychodrama.

Ok but the truth is there has been an influx of people here pushing an Antisemitic POV. The thread that was closed was ridiculous and not factual. And when anyone tried to correct the OP they were shut down and told to go somewhere else. Someone, I'd have to go back and look, said it was only a 15000 that were killed in the Holocaust. I asked what difference that made. There is an underlying believe here that is raising it's ugly head that someone the Jews deserved the Holocaust. And that is wrong and Antisemitic. The horrors of what happened on Oct 7 were discussed in that thread and again the idea that the Jews deserved it.
 
Ok but the truth is there has been an influx of people here pushing an Antisemitic POV. The thread that was closed was ridiculous and not factual. And when anyone tried to correct the OP they were shut down and told to go somewhere else. Someone, I'd have to go back and look, said it was only a 15000 that were killed in the Holocaust. I asked what difference that made. There is an underlying believe here that is raising it's ugly head that someone the Jews deserved the Holocaust. And that is wrong and Antisemitic. The horrors of what happened on Oct 7 were discussed in that thread and again the idea that the Jews deserved it.

There is antisemitism in the world and discourse growing outside of the site that's true, but it's besides the point basically it's a whataboutism. On this site nah they're not really anti-semitic, like I said in that conversation in question, and I maintain it too, on this site now and then they'll be like anti-Israel, like as in the modern state of Israel or the current political scene around Israel I guess to say another way. They're not really antisemitic though or like neonazis like they're framed as. That's I would note also in a wider general sense of thatt as a different topic that similarly taking their views and intentions and speeches out of context to then persecute them is also a toxic backfiring strategy, just look at the NYC Mayor race. All that is great topic for discussion, but it is whataboutism because the issue at hand is about trolling (bad faith interaction) vs. good faith interaction (approaching a topic even if their opinion or topic is wrong or controversial with an openness of mind and sense of grace.)
 
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the Holocaust was largely a culmination of about 2,000 years of blood libel and accusations of deicide from the Catholic church.

Hitler didn't hesitate to capitalize on this too gain support for genociding the jews.

and then there were socioeconomic factors, blaming the Jews for all of Germany's problems.

the stereotype about Jews being greedy.

what it all comes down to is that under christianity, you're not supposed to charge interest on a loan.
Judaism has no such restriction so they were able to amass more wealth

still waiting for someone to show me a scripture that says you killed the Jews now I'm sending Hitler to kill you.

thing is a lot of people disagree on the interpretations of scriptures and everyone thinks they have divine revelation.


bottom line is hate speech is hate speech and it's unacceptable
So hate speech against Christians, that is your answer? GoDaddy has rules about hate speech against Jews but it is open season for hate speech on Christians?

This is vile. Are you saying that Hitler was a Christian or that Christians supported Hitler's genocide?

What rule is there in the New Testament that prohibits charging interest?

No one, that I am aware of said that God was sending Hitler to kill the Jews. No one believes your general slander, be specific, give us a reference to a post because you have a reputation of lying about what others say.

I thank you for answering the key question, according to you it is OK if you slander Christians when it comes to the Holocaust even though 5 million Christians were also killed in the Holocaust, but how dare anyone say anything about Jews.

But you still haven't answered the other questions. For example why did God allow the holocaust of the Jews? Since God is omniscient and omnipotent He could have prevented it from taking place. Now one can argue that He gave the Jews 22 years of warnings and encouragement to leave Europe, so that covers Him being omniscient, but why did He allow the holocaust to take place. Saying there are many Bible interpretations is obviously true, but you didn't say that when you were accusing me of being anti semitic. So tell us the correct Bible interpretation. You have made it abundantly clear that it was not because they crucified Jesus 2,000 years ago, OK, so what was the reason for it?
 
someone saying the Jews deserved the Holocaust might have something to do with it


it's not my fault someone derailed the topic of the thread from Donald Trump to the Jews deserved the holocaust.
You were the only one that said that.
 
Ok but the truth is there has been an influx of people here pushing an Antisemitic POV. The thread that was closed was ridiculous and not factual. And when anyone tried to correct the OP they were shut down and told to go somewhere else. Someone, I'd have to go back and look, said it was only a 15000 that were killed in the Holocaust. I asked what difference that made. There is an underlying believe here that is raising it's ugly head that someone the Jews deserved the Holocaust. And that is wrong and Antisemitic. The horrors of what happened on Oct 7 were discussed in that thread and again the idea that the Jews deserved it.
and the fact that we are being stonewalled by moderators is telling.

some of us complain, they shut the whole thread down and then the cycle continues
 
yes he did. he said you killed jesus, the same will be done to you. this is righteous judgment
To say they deserved it is to say that people deserve to go to Hell. The Bible is clear, Hell was made for Satan and the fallen angels, not for man. Jesus gave us His redeeming blood, it is called unmerited favor. We didn't deserve salvation, it was a free gift of God. Jesus also told them that if they reject this free gift it is the unforgivable sin because without the blood of Jesus you cannot be forgiven. The fact that some people will go to hell is a tragedy, no one needs to, all they need to do is receive the salvation freely given.

On the other hand to say that those who do go to hell are somehow worse sinners than those who are saved is also false. If anyone "deserves" to be punished for sin then we all deserve it. There is no special punishment for Jews or any other group, nor is there any other name given under heaven by which man may be saved other than the name of Jesus Christ.
 
again. I have the receipt.

"you killed jesus, the same will be done to you, this is righteous judgment

translation, the murder of 6 million people was good and virtuous.

he tried to walk it back after a couple of us called him out on it and he was like I'm sorry but sounded like I said the Jews deserved the holocaust, now let me double down on my original argument and show you why I think the Jews deserved the Holocausts
The murder of Jesus was not good and virtuous. If you reap what you sow it doesn't mean you commit an evil crime and good and virtuous outcome will be what you reap.

Hitler is a type of the Antichrist, what happened in WW2 is a preview of what will happen in the tribulation. The answer for everyone is to turn to Jesus, if you don't do that then you will reap what you have sown and there will be no forgiveness without the blood of Jesus.
 
what does the word righteous mean? something that's good, something is virtuous. he said the murder of 6 million people was good and virtuous.

still waiting for scripture that says you killed Jesus now I'm sending Hitler to kill you.
The judge is not the one who sent Hitler, just as God was not the one who harmed Job. Satan asked God, the judge for permission, God allowed it with certain limitations. What happened to the Jews at the Holocaust can be compared to what happened to Job.
 
Exactly, the Jews have been abused and treated unfairly for many years. Greed was one of the reasons. Hitler needed someone to blame and the Jews were the outsiders in society.
That is the point. For two thousand years they were outsiders, and not just in Germany, also in Spain, also in Russia, also pretty much everywhere. Then in 1917 they were able to return to the land that was theirs, by a covenant with God. Why didn't they go? Or more to the point why did they ultimately go? It took the Holocaust before the Jews realized if they don't have their own country they will be wiped out. God, who is omnipotent and omniscient has allowed the trials and tribulations Jews have gone through, they are His people, His love is everlasting. They are like the prodigal son, they left the father. They cannot complain that God abandoned them, He sent His son as the savior and they rejected the salvation. If I throw you a life preserver and you refuse to take the life preserver and then drown. Why did you drown? It was because you rejected the life preserver (the crucifixion of Jesus). Is that my fault? No, whose fault is it? It is yours, you rejected the life preserver, hence it is righteous judgment, the things that happen to you are a result of your own actions.
 
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