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Again, Paul's point in establishing that no sin is accrued when there is no law in place was to show that no one should have died from Adam to Moses because there was no law. But people were in fact dying. How could this be if there was no law to accrue sin? And his explanation is that those who died did so because God placed Adam's transgression on their accounts.
Also, and again, unsaved individuals are under the law. They will be judged according to it. Those in Christ are no longer under condemnation. The law is powerless to bring judgment upon them. The law only affects those subject to it.
Also, and again, unsaved individuals are under the law. They will be judged according to it. Those in Christ are no longer under condemnation. The law is powerless to bring judgment upon them. The law only affects those subject to it.
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This separation, as described in the Bible, remained unbridged until the arrival of Jesus, referred to as the Son of Man, was born of a virgin, conceived by the Holy Spirit, and thus, was not subject to the inherited sinful nature passed down from Adam. As the second Adam, Christ came from heaven and lived a sinless life, which qualified Him as the only perfect sacrifice. His purpose was to restore the broken relationship between humanity and God. Through faith in Jesus, individuals can experience a spiritual rebirth, becoming 'born again,' and reestablish their connection with God.
This separation, as described in the Bible, remained unbridged until the arrival of Jesus, referred to as the Son of Man, was born of a virgin, conceived by the Holy Spirit, and thus, was not subject to the inherited sinful nature passed down from Adam. As the second Adam, Christ came from heaven and lived a sinless life, which qualified Him as the only perfect sacrifice. His purpose was to restore the broken relationship between humanity and God. Through faith in Jesus, individuals can experience a spiritual rebirth, becoming 'born again,' and reestablish their connection with God.
We are born with sinful tendency but not sin.
We are born as one that has already sinned.
This may seem strange but to address the question, I would combine the two points above.
I believe that we are all born sinners in the sense that we inherit a sinful nature due to Adam and Eve’s disobedience in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3). This is known as the doctrine of Original Sin.
Psalm 51:5 states, “Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.”
Romans 5:12-21 explains, “Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned.”
However, it is important to clarify that an infant, having not yet made any personal choices, cannot be held accountable for personal sin. It would be strange to me if anyone tried to refute this. However, they are considered to have inherited the sinful nature, which is beyond their control. No human, except for Christ, has ever lived without sin. Inevitably, the infant will grow up and commit sins, as it is in human nature.
We are born as one that has already sinned.
This may seem strange but to address the question, I would combine the two points above.
I believe that we are all born sinners in the sense that we inherit a sinful nature due to Adam and Eve’s disobedience in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3). This is known as the doctrine of Original Sin.
Psalm 51:5 states, “Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.”
Romans 5:12-21 explains, “Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned.”
However, it is important to clarify that an infant, having not yet made any personal choices, cannot be held accountable for personal sin. It would be strange to me if anyone tried to refute this. However, they are considered to have inherited the sinful nature, which is beyond their control. No human, except for Christ, has ever lived without sin. Inevitably, the infant will grow up and commit sins, as it is in human nature.
Those who bring babies into the equation just seem to be trying to emotionally manipulate others. God says flesh is like grass. Why do we want to make of ourselves more than that? It is the same problem Adam and Eve had: pride of life. Should any be wished good luck trying to manipulate God? No, I think not. I trust He is good. What He does with babies is just regardless of what it is.
Isaiah 40:6B-8
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The same thing happened with Adam, Eve and Cain. The commandment came to Adam and Eve. Sin was not in them. Satan tempted Eve and she was deceived and yielded to sin, Sin entered into her and she developed a sense of separation from God. in her heart and she began to die physically.
Adam had no sin, He disobeyed and sin came to life in a human for the second time. He developed a sense of alienation form God in his heart and his physical body began to die.
Cain and Abel were expressing thankfulness to God. Abel did this by freely offering of the firstfruits of their produce and his offering was pleasing to God. The Bible does not say that sin had yet entered Abel. Cain was not as thankful and gave a delayed offering of his later crop.. God was not pleased with Cain's imperfect offering. The commandment came to Cain to keep sin out. Cain yielded to sin, and killed his brother. Sin entered into Cain and again sin had come alive. in another person,.
Adam had no sin, He disobeyed and sin came to life in a human for the second time. He developed a sense of alienation form God in his heart and his physical body began to die.
Cain and Abel were expressing thankfulness to God. Abel did this by freely offering of the firstfruits of their produce and his offering was pleasing to God. The Bible does not say that sin had yet entered Abel. Cain was not as thankful and gave a delayed offering of his later crop.. God was not pleased with Cain's imperfect offering. The commandment came to Cain to keep sin out. Cain yielded to sin, and killed his brother. Sin entered into Cain and again sin had come alive. in another person,.
Those who bring babies into the equation just seem to be trying to emotionally manipulate others. God says flesh is like grass. Why do we want to make of ourselves more than that? It is the same problem Adam and Eve had: pride of life. Should any be wished good luck trying to manipulate God? No, I think not. I trust He is good. What He does with babies is just regardless of what it is.
Isaiah 40:6B-8
Isaiah 40:6B-8
Sorry if I offended you.....I was just answering a post. I thought I was anyway.
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Sorry if I offended you.....I was just answering a post. I thought I was anyway.
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In Hebrews 11:4 we read by faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain.
In Romans 10:17 we read faith by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
In order for Abel to have brought his offering "by faith", there must have been a "word of God" he had "heard" ... even though Scripture is silent on what he heard.
Cain's offering was not accepted by God because Cain did not bring his offering "by faith".
In Romans 10:17 we read faith by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
In order for Abel to have brought his offering "by faith", there must have been a "word of God" he had "heard" ... even though Scripture is silent on what he heard.
Cain's offering was not accepted by God because Cain did not bring his offering "by faith".
FOOTNOTE
tn The Hebrew term מִנְחָה(minkhah, “offering”) is a general word for tribute, a gift, or an offering. It is the main word used in Lev 2 for the dedication offering. This type of offering could be comprised of vegetables. The content of the offering (vegetables, as opposed to animals) was not the critical issue, but rather the attitude of the offerer.
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Do you agree with me that it is not required that one have a specific command to do X in order to do X by daith? For instance, if I believe God is kind and good and all the good I have is through Him, I can devise my own way to express that faith, without God beforehand prescribing how I must do so.
58:4 The wicked are strangers from the womb.
Speaking lies, they go astray from birth.
58:4 The wicked are strangers from the womb.
Speaking lies, they go astray from birth.
5 Their venom is like a serpent’s venom,
like a deaf cobra shutting its ear—
6 not hearing the voice of charmers,
or a cunning spell binder.
51:7 Behold, I was born in iniquity and in sin
when my mother conceived me.
8:21 When Adonai smelled the soothing aroma, Adonai said in His heart, “I will never again curse the ground on account of man, even though the inclination of the heart of humankind is evil from youth. Nor will I ever again smite all living creatures, as I have done.
Speaking lies, they go astray from birth.
58:4 The wicked are strangers from the womb.
Speaking lies, they go astray from birth.
5 Their venom is like a serpent’s venom,
like a deaf cobra shutting its ear—
6 not hearing the voice of charmers,
or a cunning spell binder.
51:7 Behold, I was born in iniquity and in sin
when my mother conceived me.
8:21 When Adonai smelled the soothing aroma, Adonai said in His heart, “I will never again curse the ground on account of man, even though the inclination of the heart of humankind is evil from youth. Nor will I ever again smite all living creatures, as I have done.
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I'm not partial to the term "devise my own way to express that faith" ...
In a man-to-God scenario, no, you cannot "devise [your] own way". I believe there is only one Way to approach God and that is through the Lord Jesus Christ.
When it comes to man-to-man I believe God has given us enough instruction in His Word for us to live by faith.
In John 15 ... the parable of the Vine ... Jesus tells us He is the Vine, we are the branches. The fruit is a result of the Vine working in the branch ... it's not the branch that produces the fruit. The branch merely holds out the fruit to others, but it's the Vine's fruit.
John 15:4-5 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
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In a man-to-God scenario, no, you cannot "devise [your] own way". I believe there is only one Way to approach God and that is through the Lord Jesus Christ.
When it comes to man-to-man I believe God has given us enough instruction in His Word for us to live by faith.
In John 15 ... the parable of the Vine ... Jesus tells us He is the Vine, we are the branches. The fruit is a result of the Vine working in the branch ... it's not the branch that produces the fruit. The branch merely holds out the fruit to others, but it's the Vine's fruit.
John 15:4-5 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
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