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You are also not in the right Forum. We are discussing tithes in this forum.
Mammon's grip is loosened and God's blessing overflows because Jesus sacrificed Himself for us on the cross. Tithing is only to remember Christ's sacrifice to deliver us from the forbidden knowledge of good & evil.
Didn't you mention about Bible believing church? I asked you which church believes in the Bible.
If you read and consider the rest of my comment, you'll see that I said, "tithing is not required, it is welcomed. It is not an issue of law; it is an issue of faith."
If you choose not to give 8% instead of 10%, that's ok, but don't call it a tithe. A tithe by definition is 10%. There's a reason we call it "tithes and offerings"; they are distinct. If you give something other than 10% or designate your giving to something else specifically, it's an offering. The tithe amply supports elders and associated ministries, missionaries, and the poor. It sustains your local church family. But again, I encourage you to find and commit to a healthy church family first. That is more important.
No, you didn't. You asked me which church teaches a particular doctrine. And I told you to return this discussion to the appropriate forum.
This chatroom is for another topic. Please respect the order in this community; do not spam us in every sphere of discussion. I'm not going to ask again, and I will ignore you if you continue. I am happy to discuss the subject...in the appropriate chatroom.
Thank you, in advance for your cooperation.
You mentioned about Bible believing church. I asked you is there something like that. Without repenting of the sin of violating Genesis 2:17, you will stand guilty before God.
Yes. I'm not affirming the doctrine you've proposed. But there are Bible-believing churches. They take the Bible seriously and in context.
Many churches teach that Christians are obligated to give a minimum of 10% of our income to our church. Others teach that preachers of these churches are turning the 10% tithe under the old covenant for Israel into a monetary legalistic prescription for Christians under the new covenant. I even heard a Pastor make a challenge to his congregation to give 10% of their income for 90 days and if God does not bless them then he will give them their money back.
In 2 Corinthians 9:5-7 we read: Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren to go to you ahead of time, and prepare your generous gift beforehand, which you had previously promised, that it may be ready as a matter of generosity and not as a grudging obligation. But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.
I don't see a "specific percentage" given anywhere for Christians to give under the new covenant, but I certainly believe in giving and not just to our church. I also believe that everything we own belongs to God and we certainly can't out give God.
In 2 Corinthians 9:5-7 we read: Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren to go to you ahead of time, and prepare your generous gift beforehand, which you had previously promised, that it may be ready as a matter of generosity and not as a grudging obligation. But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.
I don't see a "specific percentage" given anywhere for Christians to give under the new covenant, but I certainly believe in giving and not just to our church. I also believe that everything we own belongs to God and we certainly can't out give God.
Do they take the Bible seriously if they don't teach to repent from choosing the forbidden knowledge of good & evil violating God's command in Genesis 2: 17 & which resulted in God's wrath?
Tithes were payable under the Old Covenant but Christian giving (liberality) is under the New Covenant. And if you are a member of a church, your worship offerings should be channeled through your church to the various needs that are evident. At the same time you are free to contribute to any Christian charitable work which is genuine.
Avoid giving tithes to churches which don't teach to repent from the sin of choosing the forbidden knowledge of good & evil violating God's command in Genesis 2:17.
There is another current thread on the topic, titled "What is your motivation for tithing?". Much of the relevant information has already been shared there.
The short answer to your question is No, because Christians are not required to "tithe".
What?...show me scripture which says..." no ...Christians are not required to tithe"?
Are you playing on words or concept/intent?
Some people go to the church of their choice. Then there's others who go where God leads them.
In order to serve the Lord, one needs to know where He sends them. Wouldn't you agree?
Mostly I agree.
But many churches teach (directly or indirectly) that giving is the christian's sole duty to be active in the church, when actually it's one of many.
"I give, so I've done my part" is the belief of many christians today.
I wish somebody would tell them the truth.
You are so right ---Tithing may be an individual choice today ---but for all the good God does for us ----we grumble over giving back to God what is His anyway ---All God ask for is 10% He could have ask for 90% but He only asks for 10 ---so we should be grateful for that and tithe and give with joy ------
God's promise is to look after us and we have to trust in that and not look at tithing as a burden but as the Agape we have for God and the want to help sow into His kingdom -----
The Widow's Might is a good example ------she gave all she had -her trust and Love for God showed through Greatly ----while the rich only gave a small portion ---and Jesus was aware and watching the scripture says and that is in the New Testament -----so while it is a choice to tithe and give ----Agape and trust is involved in the matter --
Show me the verses that do. I’m not going to quote the entire NT to prove my point.
So wherefrom did you get the forbidden knowledge of good & evil which you have in your heart now?