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Ancilla
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Ok, I know that dating is a modern phenomenon. But the notion that God will lead you to the right person and that no human inititive is necessary is also a modern phenomenon.
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eagleheart
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There is no such thing as a christian chat site,they
are all public chat sites,and anyone can come on,
satanists,cult members,unbelievers,and they do.I have been on many so called christian sites they are all social clubs,where boys come to meet girls,and girls come to meet boys,that is quite obvious! They use the bible as a scapegoat to meet one another.
The dating game is a dirty game cause it is the devils game,it causes unwanted pregnancies,
unwanted babies,abortions,the VD rate now is at eperdemic proportions,women who get an STD is at a very high level,by the way women if you get an STD,there is no cure,your DEAD!
1 corinthians 7:1 It is not good for a man to touch a woman( turn the coin over) it is not good for a woman to touch a man. So for a christian,how can you be involved in the devils dating game?
You think God is not concerned with your unbiblical relationships? Read what happened to the Israelites
1 corinthians 10:8 for unbiblical relationships and
fornication 22.000 were destroyed.
Aids is not a disease,it is judgment from a Holy Rightious God upon all immorality,espechially in america!
Genesis 24: Speaks of a God ordained relationship and marriage. Isaac and Rebekah never met one another,never saw one another and never talked with one another,and God drew them together.
Genesis 24: 67 Isaac and Rebekah were content to wait upon Jesus.
I am believing Jesus for the perfect mate that He has for me,His choice not mine,and I know that it
will be a beautiful relationship made in heaven.
Jesus is the only true matchmaker! and He does not need your help.
are all public chat sites,and anyone can come on,
satanists,cult members,unbelievers,and they do.I have been on many so called christian sites they are all social clubs,where boys come to meet girls,and girls come to meet boys,that is quite obvious! They use the bible as a scapegoat to meet one another.
The dating game is a dirty game cause it is the devils game,it causes unwanted pregnancies,
unwanted babies,abortions,the VD rate now is at eperdemic proportions,women who get an STD is at a very high level,by the way women if you get an STD,there is no cure,your DEAD!
1 corinthians 7:1 It is not good for a man to touch a woman( turn the coin over) it is not good for a woman to touch a man. So for a christian,how can you be involved in the devils dating game?
You think God is not concerned with your unbiblical relationships? Read what happened to the Israelites
1 corinthians 10:8 for unbiblical relationships and
fornication 22.000 were destroyed.
Aids is not a disease,it is judgment from a Holy Rightious God upon all immorality,espechially in america!
Genesis 24: Speaks of a God ordained relationship and marriage. Isaac and Rebekah never met one another,never saw one another and never talked with one another,and God drew them together.
Genesis 24: 67 Isaac and Rebekah were content to wait upon Jesus.
I am believing Jesus for the perfect mate that He has for me,His choice not mine,and I know that it
will be a beautiful relationship made in heaven.
Jesus is the only true matchmaker! and He does not need your help.
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Ancilla
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Right, because you don't actually need to have sex to get pregnant or an STD. All you have to do is meet for coffee and chat. Is that what you're saying?
You're forgetting something. Although God send an angel to find Rebekah Abraham had still had to take initiative.
Genesis 24:
He [Abraham] said to the chief [a] servant in his household, the one in charge of all that he had, "Put your hand under my thigh. 3 I want you to swear by the LORD, the God of heaven and the God of earth, that you will not get a wife for my son from the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I am living, 4 but will go to my country and my own relatives and get a wife for my son Isaac."
He never just told Issac just to pray and wait and the right girl would come to him.
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Ancilla
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Try telling that to an HIV positive woman in Africa who only ever slept with her husband. Or her children for that matter.
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You better not be imply that I'm having unbiblical relationships or forinacating. Not only would that be slander, but people aren't going to want to open up on this site if they feel like they're jumped on with judgement. Although that being said, I've seen confessions on this site that have been met with love and gentleness instead of quick judgement. So, good for them!
But if I were you I wouldn't be so quick to assume you know what a modern Biblical relationship looks like. I don't think any of us singles necessarily do. But this is why we're here! To exchange wisdom and learn!
Furthermore, Elizabeth Elliot said that if you look at the one you are destined to be married as perfect, you will be bitterly disapointed when you find out she is human. And a wise Christian friend who's been married for a long time said that if you think of your marriage as being God's choice instead of yours, when you're unhappy in your marriage (which you will be if you're expecting your future wife to be perfect) then you'll blame God. He doesn't want anyone to enter into the covenant of marriage against their will.
You're funny, you know what? I think you convinced me! Im so sorry if I offended anyone's feelings with biblical truth. I never meant to, lets just all love each other and tolerate even the most abominable of sins, Jesus is all about love anyway! Lets all be modern and embrace cultural christianity! Yay, Plus! lets all just open up and expect people not to have opinions, unless we like their opinion, otherwise we can always quote Romans 2:1 where it says not to pass judgement and be happy with our lifestyles. I think it's a great idea to take advice from other ungodly people, so long they are already married, they must know what they are talking about, surely. Good for you my dear friends who take a very pragmatic view on important issues such as the constant bombarding of immorality by the media that we are all subject of and that has led us to such a rewarding practice like Dating, specially in the long run. Those apostles where just old fashioned yuck! these are enlightened times, lets live life to the fullest.. oh ya but always for God! God Bless y'all!
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italiansunset
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YUP... Your NOT alone in your thinking my friend... as for those who feel the need to pass judgement... well as it is written they shall be judged by the hand with which they judge. I think its all in Gods time. From personal experience and believe me me I have lived a life of love and hurt... I find that when we put our lives in the hands of God and say, OK God I'm all yours, find me a mate... it will be done. e knows the desires of your heart better than you even know them...so stick to your higher principle and let go and let God... God always steps up to the plate and believe me he never misses the ball when the bats in his hands. Good Luck may your heart find the love that God brings and the mate that God has in store for you.
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Ancilla
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Ok, this is thing about judgement: it's not our job. That being said, though, we are able to rebuke other Christians. That's a good thing, especially if it's done with gentleness and love. But, if it's done with a critical spirit that give you that "something's not right here" feeling than that's not ok!! Now, to imply that I'm a forinacator and engage in unbliblical relationships just because I said I dated as teenager, then that's not judgement that's slander and it is a sin! See Leviticus 19:16. But you're right, this site is open to everyone. I've seen lots of recklessness passed off as zealousness on this website. People think if they're speaking the truth of God then they don't have to speak it with love.* This is why we need to pray about what we write!!!!
Ok, let's clarify something. Is "the dating game" the same thing as "having sex"? Because to me, there's a difference between dating and the worldly "dating game"** and there's a difference between both of those and actually having sex, although I get that many secular people who play this so-called dating game are also having sex, but to call the two the same thing is just inviting confusion.
And lastly, I wouldn't for a minute assume that any Christian who claims to be "tired of the dating game" was ever having sex while dating. We need to give each other the benefit of the doubt.
*They're in a minority, though. Most people on this site I've seen are both gentle and wise.
**And feel free to disagree, but remember there are many wise Christians who also believe that!
Ok, let's clarify something. Is "the dating game" the same thing as "having sex"? Because to me, there's a difference between dating and the worldly "dating game"** and there's a difference between both of those and actually having sex, although I get that many secular people who play this so-called dating game are also having sex, but to call the two the same thing is just inviting confusion.
And lastly, I wouldn't for a minute assume that any Christian who claims to be "tired of the dating game" was ever having sex while dating. We need to give each other the benefit of the doubt.
*They're in a minority, though. Most people on this site I've seen are both gentle and wise.
**And feel free to disagree, but remember there are many wise Christians who also believe that!
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Ancilla
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Hey wait, are you talking about me???? You're not are you?
You're right, trying to figure all this out is a constant journey. We'd like to think that there's every detail we need in the Bible that will take us from single to happily married and beyond, but that's just not true. General principals, absolutely, every detail, I only wish. The Bible is the Word of Life, not a guide to courtship. But how is seeking the advice of wise Christians not a good thing???
Hey, if you think I'm being presumpsious and defensive, feel free to judge me.
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And for the record I will not respond to such sarcastic posts. A little bit is ok, but if we were talking face to face I'd cut you off after about three sentences and tell you that I do not want to be spoken to that way. If you want to speak the truth, there's no excuse for not speaking the truth with gentlenss and respect. Furthermore, sarcasim is not a good vessle for wisdom. I mean, does your pastor talk to you like that???
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cindy2009
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wow! this topic has attracted alot of good litrature to read. Am loss for words, but do agree. Tired of the game too.
Christian People stand up to what the Bible says, be faithful to your God, and he will deliver a perffect partner.
Am single, and never tired of being one, coz I know God has a purpose.
Christian People stand up to what the Bible says, be faithful to your God, and he will deliver a perffect partner.
Am single, and never tired of being one, coz I know God has a purpose.
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Gracegrl74
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Amen =) your so right!
I came out of what was my only serious relationship a few years ago. It was long, but it wasn't right.
I happen to subscribe to the "fairy tale" view mentioned above - at least to a degree. I DO believe there is a girl that is predestined for me, just as we are predestined to conform to the fullness of the stature of Christ. I believe that there is a plan for my life (as evidenced by its unfolding). I think it is an arrogant view that "God helps those who help themselves". Of course that doesn't mean you should sit around vegetating, waiting for destiny to happen. It's simply saying that God is omnipotant, omipresent, and in control. He knows what will happen in my life, and I submit my life to His direction, so, I attribute the blessings that come to Him alone. He knows who my wife will be, and He plans her life the same way He plans mine. Why is it a fairy tale to trust that God's plan is definite?
More to the point, I feel that God has a right woman out there for me, but that is not the source of a righteous attitude. The right attitude is that I TRUST God and his plan for me, regardless of whether He has a wife in store for me or not.
I don't like it when people belittle God's role in people's lives as a casual observer who may intervene if petitioned enough. What kind of a worthless relationship is that? What kind of trust would that ever foster? Who wants an eternity with an indifferent executive?
We should be seeking God first, and all these things will be added..
A friend of mine always says this, and I think it's a wonderful truth;
"A woman's heart should be so hidden in Christ that a man should have to seek Him first to find her."
And I have decided that I want a girl that's more in love with Christ than she EVER will be with me. I pray for my wife; that God will encourage her, protect her from emotional baggage. God is not temporal, so it's not a thing for him. I might get close to another girl before I find the right one, sure! I hope if that's the case, I'll learn caluable lessons. But do not put God into a box, no matter what view you have. People can have awesome, life-long relationships whether they've dated much or not... whether they were looking for the other person at the time, or not. I have work to do in this life - it's purpose is not my temporal existance, so if the things I'd like come to be, praise God. If not, praise God!
If you are dating in a righteous fashion, there shouldn't be "failed" relationships along the way; just successes at finding out they weren't the one to marry. This is not my view in its entirety, and it's not the authority on the subject - it's just my two cents
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Veronica32
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Way to go. When I first came on the christian chat it wasnt for online dating or soul searching. I use to be on secular sights and was doing things ungodlly. Since I came back to serving the Lord and learning to live and walk in the spirit, God has been moving in my life and directing my steps I take in Him. It is a continual process. The games or the soul searching I recently realized and came to accept as a single person is this for me; God is number one and center of my life. And when I put him first all things will come in His time for me. So that he will continue to be first and I will take care of what he has given me. I have relationships with men and women as friends and Im learning how to be a friend and what a real friend is. It isn't easy and it does get lonely, but I learn to rely on GOD and in building a relationship with Him. I spend time with Him everyday. GOD BLESS
Sarcasm is a good way of letting you realize how you sound when you talk about practices that go against biblical teachings and doctrines of righteousness. Not everyone has to like what's expressed in my message.
Moreover, to be concerned with "wisdom" is to be in the search for truth, and truth is found in the Bible, absolute truth that is. Opinions and people's advice might be helpful, but to be more concerned about" wise christians" giving us advice seems like a deviation that attempts to find a truth influenced by cultural perspectives, rather than the absolute truth found in the Bible. It's natural for us to try to establish a link between this ungody world and ourselves, because we live in it, but the Bible is clear, whoever is a friend of the world is an enemy of Jesus. Pragmatism doesn't work, its just a subtle deviation from the path God makes us walk when we trust COMPLETELY in Him. Remember that the path is narrow and it's so easy to fall from it, specially if we decide to walk the path ourselves without Jesus. Dating is just not biblical, its ungodly, does not glorify God, its a deviation from righteousness and emotional and mental purity and this world sells is and many drink it like it is water, when it is actually a recipe for eternal ****ation. Keep your opinion, I'll take biblical truth.
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Oh I get what you mean. The temptation for me to be sarcastic is there all the time. But, save one line in this post, I've resisted that temptation. Sarcasim is a worldy, ungodly thing. And the Bible is pretty clear that the ends don't justify the means.
Oh I've read the Bible. And I never said that I'd take the advice of others over that which is in the Bible. Trust me, I'm very much familiar with going against what is popular with very many Christians and instead going for what's in the Bible [but to give examples would be WAY off topic]. And it's obviously human nature to assume that our interpretations of the Bible is the only right one, but to do so would be to give in to the sin of arrogance. This is why I ask people who disagree with me how they justify their position with scripture. If they can justify their position Biblically, then I'm satisfied, whether or not I end up changing my own position based on a new interpetation that I've been enlightened with. And even if I disagree with one's position or interpretation of the Bible, I'm still glad to know that they've come about that in a Biblical way. I mean here's an example we can all agree on. I was researching why Jews don't think that Jesus is the Messiah. I read on one Jewish site that they don't believe Jesus could be God because the Bible says that God is indivisable and they see the Trinity as a division that they can not justify Biblically. I'm like "Well, that's sound Biblical argument... that I disagree with, obviously, because I believe the New Testament, but I'm glad I at least now understand where they're coming from."
Now the problem I have here is that you assume that because my views don't match yours that I have not looked to the Bible above all things to support my views.
That being said, if you can show me exactly where in the Bible where it says "Do not date" then I'll be satisfied. Now, if every time you hear the word "date" or "dating" you actually hear the word "forinication," then yes that would make sense. If you (and I don't mean "you" as in "one" or "Christians in general" I mean YOU) can't date without having sex, then by all means it would be perfectly Biblical for you to justify abstaining from that, you just have to be specific about what you mean.
So funny!! That was a joke, right? And are you also going to tell me that you don't realize that you're in denial??
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Ancilla
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Ok, so you're very convinced say that Bible has everything we need to know about how to get married, and that absolutely no interpretation or discussion is needed, right? So I assume that you are going to model your marriage off thse scriptures and not try to adapt it to fit modern culture, right?
1. Find an attractive prisoner of war, bring her home, shave her head, trim her nails and give her new clothes. Then shes yours! (Deuteronomy 21:10-14)
2. Find a man with seven daughters and impress him by watering his flock. (Moses-Exodus 2:15-21)
3. Purchase a piece of property and get a woman as part of the deal(Boaz-Ruth 4)
4. Go to a party and hide. When the women come out to dance, grab one and carry her off to be your wife. (Benjaminites-Judges 21:20-23)
5. Have God create a wife for you while you sleep. Note: this will cost you a rib(Adam-Genesis 2:21-22)
6. Agree to work seven years in exchange for a woman’s hand in marriage. Get tricked into marrying the wrong woman. Then work anmother seven years for the woman you wanted to marry in the first place. (that’s right: 14 yrs of toil for a woman) Jacob-Genesis 29)
7. Become the emperor of a huge nation and hold a beauty contest. Xerxes-Esther 2)
8. Wait for your brother to die. Take his widow. Its not just a good idea, it’s the law. Deuteronomy 25:5-6.
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Hey wait, none of those mentioned Jesus. I thought you said Jesus brought people together in the Bible.
OH the great Crutch for all christian I am human Dude. But God says
Ga 5:16This I say then, WALK IN THE SPIRIT, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
That's all old testament in the first place, I dont think you realize that the way you chose those verses shows that you are very biased and that just completely discredits anything else you say. Second, the Bible is not necessarily always literal when it comes to marriage and other issues, many things are covered in principle, and that is what I was talking about. I would advise you to be concise with your argument, because besides quoting very convenient verses anything else you write is very circumstancial and is more of an opinion than an accepted biblical truth.I'm not arguing with you anymore, I think my point is clear. Good luck looking for your best truth, I hope it suits you.