Three World Ages

[Randy4u2c]

Consider this. There are three world ages. The first was destroyed by God because of Satan's rebellion mentioned in Isa 14:12-16 and became without form and void sitting in darkness as recorded in Jer 4:22-27 and 2 Pet 3:5-7. We are living in the second one which is a period of grace and salvation and the third one is yet to come which is the eternity. Three world ages but the same heavens and earth, just different time periods. The first world age is millions if not billions of years old. The dinosaurs lived in this age but you will find no remains of humans because they weren't made in the flesh at that time. We were all with God in that first world age as recorded in Job 38:7 but were in spiritual bodies. You will find fossils of prehistoric animals but no humans.

God brought the planet back to life in this second world age when the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters, Gen 1:2-3. Chapters 1 and 2 of Genesis tells how God brought the planet back to life in 6 days, resting on the 7th and then on the 8th day creating "the man Adam" to be a tiller of the ground. It is through his seed line that Christ would be born. In this world age God sent his son Jesus Christ to proclaim the kingdom of God and to die on the cross to atone for the sins of the world which rejected him. All that repent and believe in him as Savior are forgiven their sins and have eternal life, John 3:16.

This world age is approximately 14,025 years old. Considering a day with the Lord is as a thousand years, II Pet 3:8. Eight days of creation is 8,000 years, from Adam to the birth of Christ is 4,000 years and it has been 2025 years since his crucifixion. That equals 14,025 total years since the beginning of this world age. You will find no human remains older than 14,025 years because they weren't yet made in the flesh. If it looks like the jawbone of an ape, guess what? It was an ape.

We are nearing the end of this second world age. All the world has been given the opportunity to hear the word of God and the gospel of Jesus Christ. Some have chosen to accept it, others have rejected it. As we near the end of this age, people will have a choice to make. Will they love and follow God or will they be deceived and worship Satan when he is thrown down from heaven and comes claiming to be God, as written in Rev 12:7-9 and II Thes 2:3-4? At the White Throne judgement of Rev 20:11-15, those that follow God will enter into the third and final world age which is the eternity. Those that follow Satan will be done away with in a lake of fire and forgotten about. Hope this helps open your eyes with understanding that there are three world ages written about in God's word and we are nearing the ending of the second world age.

 

[rogerg]

Three world ages but the same heavens and earth, just different time periods.

[Isa 65:17 KJV] 17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
[Isa 66:22 KJV] 22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

[2Pe 3:10-13 KJV]
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 [Seeing] then [that] all these things shall be dissolved, what manner [of persons] ought ye to be in [all] holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

 

[shittim]

Interesting thought, but doesn't line up from here.
I'm still wrapping my head around how linear time, is an illusion created as are we, God's time is "Kairos" time, from purpose to purpose.
God operates in the Quantum dimension where there is no time.
best wishes, friend

 

[DeanM]

Genesis speaks of the morning and evening of the different days of creation. So im going with what is written. 6 days of creation and on the seventh day God rested. The gap theory I havnt given much thought but I dont discount it.

 

[tourist]

Genesis speaks of the morning and evening of the different days of creation. So im going with what is written. 6 days of creation and on the seventh day God rested. The gap theory I havnt given much thought but I dont discount it.

That's how I read that account too.

 

[shittim]

The original text word for "created" can also men, "revealed".

 

[rogerg]

The original text word for "created" can also men, "revealed".

[2Pe 3:10-12 KJV]
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 [Seeing] then [that] all these things shall be dissolved, what manner [of persons] ought ye to be in [all] holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

 

[Magenta]

And there was evening, and there was morning— said at the end of each day, days one to six.

 

[GaryA]

Consider this. There are three world ages. The first was destroyed by God because of Satan's rebellion mentioned in Isa 14:12-16 and became without form and void sitting in darkness as recorded in Jer 4:22-27 and 2 Pet 3:5-7. We are living in the second one which is a period of grace and salvation and the third one is yet to come which is the eternity. Three world ages but the same heavens and earth, just different time periods. The first world age is millions if not billions of years old. The dinosaurs lived in this age but you will find no remains of humans because they weren't made in the flesh at that time. We were all with God in that first world age as recorded in Job 38:7 but were in spiritual bodies. You will find fossils of prehistoric animals but no humans.

God brought the planet back to life in this second world age when the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters, Gen 1:2-3. Chapters 1 and 2 of Genesis tells how God brought the planet back to life in 6 days, resting on the 7th and then on the 8th day creating "the man Adam" to be a tiller of the ground. It is through his seed line that Christ would be born. In this world age God sent his son Jesus Christ to proclaim the kingdom of God and to die on the cross to atone for the sins of the world which rejected him. All that repent and believe in him as Savior are forgiven their sins and have eternal life, John 3:16.

This world age is approximately 14,025 years old. Considering a day with the Lord is as a thousand years, II Pet 3:8. Eight days of creation is 8,000 years, from Adam to the birth of Christ is 4,000 years and it has been 2025 years since his crucifixion. That equals 14,025 total years since the beginning of this world age. You will find no human remains older than 14,025 years because they weren't yet made in the flesh. If it looks like the jawbone of an ape, guess what? It was an ape.

We are nearing the end of this second world age. All the world has been given the opportunity to hear the word of God and the gospel of Jesus Christ. Some have chosen to accept it, others have rejected it. As we near the end of this age, people will have a choice to make. Will they love and follow God or will they be deceived and worship Satan when he is thrown down from heaven and comes claiming to be God, as written in Rev 12:7-9 and II Thes 2:3-4? At the White Throne judgement of Rev 20:11-15, those that follow God will enter into the third and final world age which is the eternity. Those that follow Satan will be done away with in a lake of fire and forgotten about. Hope this helps open your eyes with understanding that there are three world ages written about in God's word and we are nearing the ending of the second world age.

Considered it - decided it cannot be true - because, it does not correlate properly with scripture.

You need to read Isaiah 14:12-16 in the context of the whole chapter and realize and understand that it involves occurrences in the present world.

You need to read Jeremiah 4:22-27 in the context of the whole chapter - paying particular attention to the verses from verse 22 to the end of the chapter - and realize and understand that the passage is speaking to a future event and not the beginning of the present world.

You need to read 2 Peter 3:5-7 in the context of the whole chapter and realize and understand that it is talking about the present world and the flood.

You need to read Job 38:7 in the context of the whole chapter and realize and understand that it is talking about the present world.

The gap theory is not biblical - creation week was literal days - 2 Peter 3:8 cannot be applied to any verse in the Bible on a whim.

I believe that I have said plenty enough to make my point.

I believe you have put a lot of imagination into this idea...

 

[tablet123]

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Rev 10:5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth applies to the creation made for humans.

Which Jesus is the beginning of creation testifies it was the creation for humans because He is the Savior of humans.

Fallen angels cannot be redeemed for they are one being so they tainted their whole being with nowhere to put off the sin.

But a human is soul and flesh which all sin resides in the flesh which they can put off the flesh and preserve the soul.

So Jesus is the beginning of creation does not apply to the angels.

Jesus is the beginning of creation even though He was not born until 4000 years later for God calls things that have not happened yet as though they already happened.

He had to be the beginning of creation for He is the Savior which without the plan of God to come in the flesh He would of not created anything He created.

It was the start of time which the sun measures a day which time was needed to measure events scheduled by God and for people.

There was no time before the creation because there was nothing scheduled but things went on the same.

And when the saints are at the New Jerusalem there is no more time because there is nothing scheduled.

Time is not a universal principle that has any application like Scientists, and others think, but it only applies to this creation to schedule things.

Lucifer already fell and the angels witnessed the creation for humans.

If Lucifer did not fall God would of not created humans for then they would not have a choice to choose the truth which is perfect love.

God gave mankind a choice and that is why He put the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden and said do not touch it which if they did they would be rebellious against Him doing their own thing.

It would of never entered their mind to eat of that tree unless an outside source tempted them giving them an alternate reality.

So God allowed Satan to tempt Eve which she said they could not eat of the tree for that is all she could know and think.

So Satan tempted Eve with an alternate reality that if they ate of the tree they would be as gods.

So Eve ate of the fruit and then she was the outside source that tempted Adam showing him she did not die, and nothing bad happened to her.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth applies to the creation made for humans.

Gen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

God flooded the earth and started over with Noah and his family.

It is not another world age for it is the same world but flooded.

God did not get rid of the world and start with a new world.

Did God get rid of the world and start with a new world when He overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The new age who interprets the Bible and religions according to the occult and evolution, and people are going to evolve to be spiritual, and greater, and Jesus became an ascended master among others, and there is no personal God, but they honor the God of forces the power of nature, and the New Age Christ is the next world teacher.

The time will come that people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but want to hear it according to the new age.

Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
Dan 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

10 horns shall come from the Roman Empire which is the world divided in to 10 sections with a leader in each section.

Which they shall take over the world which is by the new age which is a Caucasian led plan.

Dan 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
Dan 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

Dan 2:34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.
Dan 2:35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

Daniel had a vision of 4 kingdoms Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and the Roman Empire.

The Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until Jesus puts down the world.

The other 3 kingdoms had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

Which means they will never have physical dominion again but their ways are still on earth.

Babylon- lion, human religion, the occult, kingdom of man.

Medo-Persia- bear, physical cruelty in war.

Greece- leopard, human wisdom.

And all 4 ways are at the beast kingdom.

All 4 kingdoms ways do not cease until Jesus puts down the wicked.

The beast kingdom is referred to Babylon in spirit and the new age is of human religion, the occult, and the kingdom of man.

Continued in next post

 

[tablet123]

Continued from above post

Isa 14:4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

Isa 14:6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.

Isa 14:7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

Isa 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

Isa 14:10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Isa 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

Isa 14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

Isa 14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

Isa 14:20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Isa 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

Isa 14:22 For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.

Isa 14:23 I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the LORD of hosts.

2Ti 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

This is speaking of the fall of Lucifer but also a reference to him in the future as the New Age Christ.

Which the deceived will realize he is nothing after believing he was the answer for peace on earth and powerful in the occult which they said who can make war with him.

He did not open the house of the prisoners which Lucifer does not release those he deceives being taken captive by him at his will.

The new age believes Lucifer is a god, and an alien, that gave mankind intelligence, and will help mankind to have peace, advance, and evolve along with the New Age Christ.

Babylon will never have physical dominion again but her ways are still on earth and the beast kingdom is Babylon in spirit.

You either belong to the kingdom of God or the kingdom of Babylon, the kingdom of man.

Which is why Babylon is responsible for all the slain upon earth because all the wicked in history belong to Babylon.

Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Psa 63:9 But those that seek my soul, to destroy it, shall go into the lower parts of the earth.

Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. tents, as this plague.
Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Jesus has not fulfilled the role of perfect King which must be done on earth for the law to be fulfilled.

When He has done that then heaven and earth shall pass away.

Which the earth shall be burned up and all the works of it, and the heavens shall melt with fervent heat, for the earth has been tainted with sin by people, and the fallen angels, and heaven has been tainted by the fallen angels.

Which all sin must be purged with fire.

Which the saints are purged by the Holy Spirit and with fire.

The wicked shall go to the lower part of the earth which is hell and death.

And hell and death shall be cast in to the lake of fire so the earth shall be cast in to the lake of fire.

Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

The fallen angels will be confined to earth along with the wicked people and it will be cast in to the lake of fire.

The fallen angels have not been cast to earth yet which is when Satan appears as the antichrist and deceives the people that do not love the truth which is the strong delusion God will give all people who do not love the truth.

Satan is the prince of the power of the air now but and has access to the first and second heaven but in the future will be cast to earth.

Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

This is not speaking of being cast out of the 3rd heaven when the fallen angels rebelled.

Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

When heaven and earth pass away there will be a new heaven and earth which is the place Jesus went to prepare for the saints.

It will be a place where sin has never been and sin will never be and rebellion will never rear its ugly head again.

And people and angels will remember nothing prior to the New Jerusalem.

For the former will not be remembered, nor come to mind.

People will remember nothing about earth, and what happened there.

They will not remember their family, their friends, their pets, for to know them they would remember the earth which they will not know.

They will not remember the sin and rebellion of the earth.

They will not remember the people who rejected the truth and did not receive salvation so they will not be sad.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

1) Major Events Of The Bible: Creation!

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2) Personal study of God's:

Three "Ages" Rightly Divided (Rule #2 of BSR) = God's Timelines!​

---- Ages past --------- ===== ("But Now!") ===== --------------- Ages To Come
earthly (physical) ---- ===== heavenly (spiritual) ==== ------ back to the earth
Prophecy ------- ==== ([Secret] Mystery Revealed) ==== ----- Prophecy (cont'd)

Good News of ------- === Greatest News of === ------- The Everlasting Gospel
The Kingdom ----- === Amazing Grace of God === ----------- of The Kingdom

--------------------------- === [ “The Faith” ]
Gen – Acts 1-8 -- == ( Acts 9 – [ Romans - Philemon # ] ) === ------- Heb – Rev
{ LAW - ( transition period ) - Amazing Grace! } === ----------------- NT cont'd?:

God's Prophetic Program (Context) Ages Past! –
“earthly” Under LAW, preaching "gospel of the kingdom":

Jesus as Humble Servant - to the Jews Only - to Suffer/Die/Rise -
12 apostles - ** Warnings = Great Tribulation / angels / Trumpets
/ Second Coming ** (Matthew 24:27-31)

(so-called) “Great” Commission - Kingdom offered / rejected =
Israel “fell,” blaspheming The Holy Ghost – Thus Israel Cannot
Be A Blessing to the world {until the future}, and...

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

The Scripture “Now Concludes All Jews with” Gentiles, Under Sin
and Guilty Before A Holy And Just God, And, God In Mercy And Grace
Saves His Other apostle [ Paul, “born out of due time,” to preach
The Gospel Of Grace! ]...

►►
{ God's Voice (1st 'Trump') "Opening!" The Current Age Of Grace! =
JESUS, From Heaven, Said: "Saul, Saul, Why persecutest thou Me?"
(Acts 9:4 AV) } ◄◄

...And, to Paul, our Grace apostle, “Reveals to him His Hidden”
Secret, for:
============================================
God's Revelation Of The Mystery ( While placing HIS Law/Prophetic
Program "On HOLD!" ):

(( "But Now!" = Time Present = heavenly, Under GRACE:

The LORD JESUS CHRIST = At Right Hand Of God, Risen/Glorified Head
of The Church Seated In Heaven = “Spiritual Organism” = His Body -

One [ Both Hebrew/Roman ] “apostle to the Gentiles, representing
Reconciliation By The BLOOD Of The CROSS of Jew/Gentile [ two ]
Into His One “New-Joint Creation,” The One Body of CHRIST -
By One [ Divine ] "Spiritual Baptism" - All found in:

One “Faith + practice” Doctrine [ Romans – Philemon # ] - And,
Now, IF we may prayerfully/carefully Consider this Closing!:

"Closing!" The Current “Age of Grace,” By One Prophetic Doctrine Of:

Great Grace Resurrection/Departure! (aka rapture)

►► { Note }: This Is "Voice" { Not "trumpet" } ( Note The First "Voice"
above ) **At "The Last Trump ( Of God )" For This Church Age**
( 1 Thessalonians 4:16 cp Acts 9:4! ) { God's Wonderful Voice Calling:

"My Church, Come Up Hither!" }? ◄◄ ​

[0 {Zero} “signs” = “Imminent”] Resurrection/Departure Of Body
Of CHRIST! to heaven for The Judgment Seat of CHRIST ))
(1 Corinthians 3:8-15!)

Precious friend(s), Are you prepared?

== This Resurrection/Departure, of course, Is God “Recalling His
ambassadors” Before Declaring War on the wicked in...

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

...Ages To Come! -

God's "Prophetic" Program { Which Was On Hold During Grace! }
- Continued:

The Wicked one (man of sin, son of Perdition) Revealed -
one-world peace/First half? TOJT

►► Mid-TOJT Departures!: 2 witnesses Resurrected/Raptured
(Rev 11:1-13)
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144,000 witnesses "redeemed from earth" And Then Found in
"heaven" (Rev 7:1-8; 13:18 -- 14:1-5) ◄◄

...Second Half: Time of Jacob's (Israel's) Trouble (Great Tribulation) -

Armageddon War - **After the last trumpet (of an ANGEL!)
immediately After Great Tribulation**
(Revelation 8:6, 11:15, 15:1, 16:1 cp Matthew 24:27-31)

2nd Coming with (4) “signs” of KING (of kings) JESUS CHRIST -

“smite the nations” + Kingdom [David's throne] Established –

{Another trumpet!} Judge the nations + 12 thrones for 12 apostles
over the 12 Tribes of Israel – Millennial Reign – Last Rebellion
Squelched – Final Judgment – New Heavens/Earth – Eternity
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Precious friends, Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged In
Christ And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!

Amen.



Bonus study:

Handling The Word Of Life!

 

[BonnieClaire]

Some people get more from the gaps between the scriptures then from the scriptures themselves . . .

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

 

[Randy4u2c]

Considered it - decided it cannot be true - because, it does not correlate properly with scripture.

You need to read Isaiah 14:12-16 in the context of the whole chapter and realize and understand that it involves occurrences in the present world.

You need to read Jeremiah 4:22-27 in the context of the whole chapter - paying particular attention to the verses from verse 22 to the end of the chapter - and realize and understand that the passage is speaking to a future event and not the beginning of the present world.

You need to read 2 Peter 3:5-7 in the context of the whole chapter and realize and understand that it is talking about the present world and the flood.

You need to read Job 38:7 in the context of the whole chapter and realize and understand that it is talking about the present world.

The gap theory is not biblical - creation week was literal days - 2 Peter 3:8 cannot be applied to any verse in the Bible on a whim.

I believe that I have said plenty enough to make my point.

I believe you have put a lot of imagination into this idea...

Isa 14:12-16 and Ezk 14:12-16, as a second witness, are speaking of the first world age when Lucifer (Satan) was cast down because he wanted to sit in God's throne. He was in the garden of God and was the anointed cherub that covered the mercy seat. This same Satan will once again come to earth claiming to be God to deceive the people once again as written in II Thes 2:3-4.

Notice in Jer 4:22-27 that God beheld the earth and lo, it was without form and void and had no light. This didn't happen at Noah's flood. This was the result of that first age perishing. He goes on to say that there was no man and that the birds of heaven were fled. This is the first world age. II Pet 3:5-7 clearly states that the first world age perished being overflowed with water. This wasn't Noah's flood because as Jer 4:25 states, there was no man or birds left alive.

Job 38:7 speaks to Job about where he was when God created the heavens and earth. In that first world age we were all with God in spiritual bodies and shouted for joy. In this second world age we all pass through in a flesh body to make up our mind whether to follow God or Satan. As God said in Gen 1:26, "Let US make man in OUR image after OUR likeness." In this age we are all born of women and are in the exact image of our spiritual bodies from the first world age.

I know the three world ages is a hard subject to comprehend. That first world age was overflowed with water, sat in darkness and froze due to Lucifer's rebellion until God brought it back to life. This is what science refers to as the ice age. In the end of this world age, Satan will be thrown down from heaven, Rev 12:7-9 and come to earth claiming to be God, II Thes 2:3-4. It's kind of like a repeat of what he did in the first world age. Christ will overthrow him and cast him down once again as he did in the first world age when he returns at the 7th trump.

 

[shittim]

Holy Spirit does not confirm this.
Ask Him.
best wishes

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Isa 14:12-16 and Ezk 14:12-16, as a second witness, are speaking of the first world age when Lucifer (Satan) was cast down because he wanted to sit in God's throne. He was in the garden of God and was the anointed cherub that covered the mercy seat. This same Satan will once again come to earth claiming to be God to deceive the people once again as written in II Thes 2:3-4.

Notice in Jer 4:22-27 that God beheld the earth and lo, it was without form and void and had no light. This didn't happen at Noah's flood. This was the result of that first age perishing. He goes on to say that there was no man and that the birds of heaven were fled. This is the first world age. II Pet 3:5-7 clearly states that the first world age perished being overflowed with water. This wasn't Noah's flood because as Jer 4:25 states, there was no man or birds left alive.

Job 38:7 speaks to Job about where he was when God created the heavens and earth. In that first world age we were all with God in spiritual bodies and shouted for joy. In this second world age we all pass through in a flesh body to make up our mind whether to follow God or Satan. As God said in Gen 1:26, "Let US make man in OUR image after OUR likeness." In this age we are all born of women and are in the exact image of our spiritual bodies from the first world age.

I know the three world ages is a hard subject to comprehend. That first world age was overflowed with water, sat in darkness and froze due to Lucifer's rebellion until God brought it back to life. This is what science refers to as the ice age. In the end of this world age, Satan will be thrown down from heaven, Rev 12:7-9 and come to earth claiming to be God, II Thes 2:3-4. It's kind of like a repeat of what he did in the first world age. Christ will overthrow him and cast him down once again as he did in the first world age when he returns at the 7th trump.

Well, our Lord Jesus is coming back soon. I'd rather just wait and ask Him about all this when He returns....

 

[GaryA]

Isa 14:12-16 and Ezk 14:12-16, as a second witness, are speaking of the first world age when Lucifer (Satan) was cast down because he wanted to sit in God's throne. He was in the garden of God and was the anointed cherub that covered the mercy seat. This same Satan will once again come to earth claiming to be God to deceive the people once again as written in II Thes 2:3-4.

Notice in Jer 4:22-27 that God beheld the earth and lo, it was without form and void and had no light. This didn't happen at Noah's flood. This was the result of that first age perishing. He goes on to say that there was no man and that the birds of heaven were fled. This is the first world age. II Pet 3:5-7 clearly states that the first world age perished being overflowed with water. This wasn't Noah's flood because as Jer 4:25 states, there was no man or birds left alive.

Job 38:7 speaks to Job about where he was when God created the heavens and earth. In that first world age we were all with God in spiritual bodies and shouted for joy. In this second world age we all pass through in a flesh body to make up our mind whether to follow God or Satan. As God said in Gen 1:26, "Let US make man in OUR image after OUR likeness." In this age we are all born of women and are in the exact image of our spiritual bodies from the first world age.

I know the three world ages is a hard subject to comprehend. That first world age was overflowed with water, sat in darkness and froze due to Lucifer's rebellion until God brought it back to life. This is what science refers to as the ice age. In the end of this world age, Satan will be thrown down from heaven, Rev 12:7-9 and come to earth claiming to be God, II Thes 2:3-4. It's kind of like a repeat of what he did in the first world age. Christ will overthrow him and cast him down once again as he did in the first world age when he returns at the 7th trump.

Nope. Sorry. We will just have to agree to disagree agreeably.

Lucifer/Satan did not sin and rebel until after creation week.

There is no gap between the first two verses of Genesis.

The earth was created at the start of creation week.

 

[DeanM]

Well, our Lord Jesus is coming back soon. I'd rather just wait and ask Him about all this when He returns....

Good plan. Lots of arguments on this site. But I think most believe the gospel so there it is.