Three Gods or one? Explain the Trinity.

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maryjohanna said:
I love this response! I am going to use this if I ever face questions regarding the Trinity. Wow. Awesome!
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Thank you :) I am glad you like it :D Some have complained against it saying it is modalism but that is not true, because in modalism, rather than being eternally co-existent, the three Beings of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are manifest consecutively and never simultaneously. I plainly say the one is different persons all at the same time :geek:
 
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DorothyMae said:
On the surface this sounds good and if the recepient doesn't think deeply it probably works. Same as the explanation of 1 x 1 x 1 = 1 works. But the problem is one of metaphysics. The answer above is relationship. We have no problem seeing that each of us is in different relationships with other people and the list is very long from stranger and then acquaintance along various lines of depth to spouse. The trinity problem is not relationship but the metaphysics of it.

The answer is that God is superior to us in every way including metaphysically and we cannot measure his abilities or nature or Being with the limitations we know we have. We, for example, cannot separate our spirit from the rest of us and live at will. Our spirits do not enter another being in any case. He can send His spirit into lesser beings. Demonic elements can also inhabit another creature, by the way. Seems to be an ability spiritual beings have that we do not have and cannot really understand. So that is the real answer. We are lesser creatures and therefore do not fully understand the experience of higher creatures same as butterflys would not understand our existance. There are some things that are just beyond us.
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Stick around and you may come to get a better understanding of the members here :)
 
Magenta said:
Stick around and you may come to get a better understanding of the members here :)
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I don't see how my post referred to any members here at all. Where did I talk about any members in my post? I was talking about the answers to the question of trinity, not discussing a poster. What am I missing?
 
Diakonos said:
Yes I do (Isaiah 29:9-12), but unfortunately, you have taken it out of its context:
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Actually the scripture I was referring unto was Luke 4:17.

UnoiAmarah said:
But let me ask if you know what scripture it is written that person who has not learned to read was given a book to read?
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And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written", whereat it continues with "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, ..."

Which is in context to the scripture seeing that it is written in John 7:15 "And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?" And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
 
DorothyMae said:
I don't see how my post referred to any members here at all. Where did I talk about any members in my post? I was talking about the answers to the question of trinity, not discussing a poster. What am I missing?
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Who is "the recipient"?
 
Magenta said:
I would think the recipient would be whoever reads the response... regardless of who asked the question.
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To me a recepient is who is receives something from asking. There are also observers. But if I give X to Mr B and 10 people watch, only one is the recipient. If Mr B asked a question, to me, he is the recipient of the answer even if 10 people watch.

But that’s my personal view. I don’t consider just anyone who reads what I write as a recipient. Some even read it and don’t receive a word. Do you see what I mean?
 
DorothyMae said:
To me a recepient is who is receives something from asking. There are also observers. But if I give X to Mr B and 10 people watch, only one is the recipient. If Mr B asked a question, to me, he is the recipient of the answer even if 10 people watch.

But that’s my personal view. I don’t consider just anyone who reads what I write as a recipient. Some even read it and don’t receive a word. Do you see what I mean?
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Yes, I understand what you mean, but on a site such as this, I see the recipient as anyone who reads the response. Of course reading it is not the same as receiving it, for receiving connotes understanding and acceptance. I make such a response as I did originally with the hope that such a question will even in some small way help someone, anyone, more firmly grasp that which we cannot fully comprehend in the first place. It is not meant to be absolute, but to inspire reflection that may yield insight and allay doubts as to how some things can be when they seemingly defy human logic.
 
Benadam said:
I like this analogy. Just throwing it in the mix.

When we look at the sun we see one huge sphere of light.
The Father.

Rays of light descends to earth.
The Son

The light warms the face.
The Holy Spirit.
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This is Oneness doctrine analogy...
 
Magenta said:
Thank you :) I am glad you like it :D Some have complained against it saying it is modalism but that is not true, because in modalism, rather than being eternally co-existent, the three Beings of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are manifest consecutively and never simultaneously. I plainly say the one is different persons all at the same time :geek:
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The issue with your explanation and your previous one is that God is ONE who is THREE PERSON, those separate persons have different functions, i.e the Son and the Father, he is NOT one person who has multiple functions, which your examples imply.

A man can be a husband, father, son, brother, cousin and uncle all at one as you correctly stated, but he is still one person. God is NOT one person according to the trinity but three persons, those separate persons are Father and Son towards each other which means God is his own Father and own Son.

Furthermore, you cannot be your own Father, nor can you be your own son, so depsite one human person being able to be a husband, father, son and uncle, cousin and brother all at once he cannot be his OWN husband, his own father, his own son etc etc, and there lies your problem and the problem with the trinity, God is his own Father and Son, this is impossible. Thus, your explanations fail.
 
The Father is the divine side of human Christ, and the Son is the human side of Jesus as a result of Incarnation, as God says "Today I have begotten thee...
 
Scribe said:
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terrible scribe. These youtube mockers have no reverence for the GodHead. it is a shame those who name the name of Jesus have no respect for the Living God. And try to simplify and lower God by human reasoning.
 
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