Three Days and Three Nights
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Easter/Ishtar just so happen to have eggs and bunnies at the same time of year, both dying the eggs, nope nothing to see here!
No, most dont care for truth.
2 Kings 17:33-34, "They were taught how they might worship Yahweh, but instead they worshiped their own gods according to the customs of the nations from which they had been brought. To this day, they continue to practice their former pagan customs. They do not reverence Yahweh, nor do they follow the statutes, ordinances, Laws, and commandments which Yahweh had commanded the children of Yaaqob, whom He named Israyl."
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RachelBibleStudent
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numbered 'days' and numbered 'days and nights' are equivalent in scripture...for example in some places jesus says he will be in the tomb for 'three days and three nights' and elsewhere he says he will be in the tomb for 'three days'...both counting systems are identical...
if 'three days and three nights' really meant 'wednesday through saturday' then jesus could not have said 'three days' under the other counting system that he also used...he would have had to call it 'four days'
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RachelBibleStudent
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actually it is biblical...not pharisaic...see acts 10 where this counting method is used in scripture...
also we know that a day is exactly twelve hours and a night is exactly twelve hours only on two nights of the year...so your misunderstanding not only contradicts scripture but also contradicts what God created...
12 hours was a generalization I understand the moon cycles....
John 11:9King James Version.
"Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world."
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Kaycie
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It's because in Genesis chapter one, when God first made things, it says like there was evening then morning the third day, or whichever day. We think of our days as sun up until sundown, but actually it is sundown to sun up. So I think it's six pm when they think of it as a new day.
Nehemiah 13:19, "As soon as it began to grow dark at the gates of Jerusalem before the Sabbath, I commanded that the doors should be shut and gave orders that they should not be opened until after the Sabbath. And I stationed some of my servants at the gates, that no load might be brought in on the Sabbath day."
[h=4]Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/h]
1) evening, night, sunset 1a) evening, sunset 1b) night
[h=4]Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/h]
1) morning, break of day 1a) morning 1a1) of end of night 1a2) of coming of daylight 1a3) of coming of sunrise 1a4) of beginning of day 1a5) of bright joy after night of distress (fig.) 1b) morrow, next day, next morning
The vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days. (Daniel 8:26)
Daniel 8:26, "The vision of the evenings and mornings that has been given you is true, but seal up the vision, for it concerns the distant future."
How many days are “the evening and the morning” of Daniel?
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. (Daniel 8:14)
The Hebrew words translated days in Daniel 8:14 are the same words in the Hebrew of Daniel 8:26, where it is translated as “evening” and “morning.” The Hebrew words are ereb and boqer which are the exact words used in Genesis 1 for “evening” and “morning.”
In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at even, ye shall eat unleavened bread, until the one and twentieth day of the month at even. Seven days shall there be no leaven found in your houses. (Exodus 12:18, 19)
And the king of Ai he hanged on a tree until eventide: and as soon as the sun was down, Joshua commanded that they should take his carcase down from the tree. (Joshua 8:29)
The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. (John 19:31)
The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. (John 19:31)
The most obvious one:
Leviticus 23:32 "It is to be a sabbath of complete rest to you, and you shall humble your souls; on the ninth of the month at evening, from evening until evening you shall keep your sabbath."
evening is word #H6153. ereb
[h=4]Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/h]
1) evening, night, sunset 1a) evening, sunset 1b) night
Strong's Concordance
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: ereb
Phonetic Spelling: (eh'-reb)
Short Definition: evening
Leviticus 23:32 "It is to be a sabbath of complete rest to you, and you shall humble your souls; on the ninth of the month at evening, from evening until evening you shall keep your sabbath."
evening is word #H6153. ereb
[h=4]Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/h]
1) evening, night, sunset 1a) evening, sunset 1b) night
Strong's Concordance
ereb: evening
Original Word: עָ֫רֶבPart of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: ereb
Phonetic Spelling: (eh'-reb)
Short Definition: evening
RachelBibleStudent,
re: "if 'three days and three nights' really meant 'wednesday through saturday' then jesus could not have said 'three days' under the other counting system that he also used...he would have had to call it 'four days'"
That's an issue for another topic. For the purpose of this one I'm only interested in the information requested in the OP.
BTW, why did you quote my question to you in post #115 and then completely ignore it?
re: "if 'three days and three nights' really meant 'wednesday through saturday' then jesus could not have said 'three days' under the other counting system that he also used...he would have had to call it 'four days'"
That's an issue for another topic. For the purpose of this one I'm only interested in the information requested in the OP.
BTW, why did you quote my question to you in post #115 and then completely ignore it?
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RachelBibleStudent
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because the statement you just quoted is one that explains that your question as worded is not necessary in order to resolve the issue...
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RachelBibleStudent
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no it wasn't a lie...it just doesn't mean what you in your rebellion and confusion have supposed it to mean...
RachelBibleStudent,
re: "... your question as worded is not necessary in order to resolve the issue..."
The issue of the topic is to find someone who thinks that Matthew 12:40 is using common Jewish idiomatic language who can support that idea with writing from the period. I don't see where your posts have done that.
re: "... your question as worded is not necessary in order to resolve the issue..."
The issue of the topic is to find someone who thinks that Matthew 12:40 is using common Jewish idiomatic language who can support that idea with writing from the period. I don't see where your posts have done that.
Oh, so that is how to understand scripture, it doesn't really mean what it says.
Three days and three nights is really two nights and a day and the Creator of days and nights Who said this...
Joh 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.
Joh 11:10 But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him.
really didn't know what He was talking about.
I see now how you have developed some of YOUR doctrines. I think your rules for exegesis must be...
1) The Bible really doesn't mean what it says.
2) If you don't agree with what the Bible says, refer to rule #1.
that's very astute john. 'they' ever since the scribes and pharisees who opposed yahweh have had that attitude as you so succinctly described.
i don't know yet, although i might 'suppose', that people today, in 2015, who agree with heretics from 300a.d. ff, are heretical also,
but that might be too big a jump, erroneous conclusion, fallacy or just plain unrighteous.
however, i'm pretty sure you realize that the errors and heresies propagated for almost 2000 years are usually not overcome in a moment - not even in days, weeks, maybe not even in years, but decades, even lifetimes, and then
.................................................... only if and as God permits. if God doesn't grant it from heaven, no man can receive anything. (repeated several times in OT and NT, all through God's Own Word.).
so , since education, scholarship, degrees in anything (religion, philosophy, mathematics, physics socialogy etc etc etc ad nauseum ad infinitum) , CANNOT produce life or reveal truth.....
that leaves only prayer, sometimes desperate prayer or fervent prayer (like God listens to and withholds rain and heals the sick and casts out demons and raises the dead for ) .... ... ...
not even 2000 years of study or posts or forums will convince anyone of truth. (not even the disciples of jesus understood,
............................................................ until he breathed on them !!!!!!!!!!!!! ) simple truth sent from god, not ever understood
and not
ever accepted
nor ever grasped by the world (no matter how much 'education'; rather as jesus said himself, otherwise ! ) .....
someone old also. all along through history. they are called "JEWS" or "HEBREWS" or "ISRAELIS". not even necessarily 'believers' (yet).
i.e. in HEBREW the clarity is simple enough for kindergartners, and those who are taught the truth from an early age have no trouble at all with it.
they may or may not ever visit this 'gentile' mostly site. they have no need to. you may have to go seeking and keep on seeking to find the truth, as Yahshua says.
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Jasher
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When reading the synoptic Gospels one could easily believe that they were talking about the weekly Sabbath. But John who wrote his Gospel some 30 years later corrected the historical record of the event. He tells us that it was a "High Sabbath." The high Sabbath was the first day of unleavened bread. A high Sabbath was not as strict as the weekly Sabbath in that you could do some necessary work.
So what this means is that Jesus could have been crucified on any day of the week. And so I backed up the day of the crucifixion just enough so that there was a full three days for Him to be in the tomb.
The Jewish day changed when three medium stars appeared in the sky. This would have been approximately 7:00PM.
The evening (Tamid) sacrifice occurred at 2:30PM everyday. On Passover it was moved back to 1:30 in order to sacrifice all of these 10's of thousands of lambs. In order to do this all of the Priests came into the Temple to assist. They did this bucket brigade style.
So the timetable looks like this...
Tuesday Nissan 13th - Lambs sacrificed in late afternoon
Wednesday Nissan 14th Passover day - Lambs roasting until probably 9-11 O'clock? Celebrated Passover until late
Wednesday Jesus arrested probably after midnight was tried the next morning early.
Wednesday Jesus crucified - travailed between noon and three o'clock.
Wednesday Disciples rushed to interr him before the start of the High Sabbath (Unleavened Bread) at 7:00PM
Thursday In the tomb from 7:00PM until 7:00 Pm - one full day
Friday In the tomb from 7:00PM until 7:00PM - two full days
Saturday In the tomb from 7:00PM until 7:00PM - three full days.
Sunday (First day of the week) Arose at 7:00PM (Theoretically) (Start of Sunday)
Sunday Followers arrive at the tomb early to find He had already arisen. Record doesn't say when He arose.
Sunday This timetable shows a 12 hour lapse between when He arose and when His followers arrived at the Tomb.
So what this means is that Jesus could have been crucified on any day of the week. And so I backed up the day of the crucifixion just enough so that there was a full three days for Him to be in the tomb.
The Jewish day changed when three medium stars appeared in the sky. This would have been approximately 7:00PM.
The evening (Tamid) sacrifice occurred at 2:30PM everyday. On Passover it was moved back to 1:30 in order to sacrifice all of these 10's of thousands of lambs. In order to do this all of the Priests came into the Temple to assist. They did this bucket brigade style.
So the timetable looks like this...
Tuesday Nissan 13th - Lambs sacrificed in late afternoon
Wednesday Nissan 14th Passover day - Lambs roasting until probably 9-11 O'clock? Celebrated Passover until late
Wednesday Jesus arrested probably after midnight was tried the next morning early.
Wednesday Jesus crucified - travailed between noon and three o'clock.
Wednesday Disciples rushed to interr him before the start of the High Sabbath (Unleavened Bread) at 7:00PM
Thursday In the tomb from 7:00PM until 7:00 Pm - one full day
Friday In the tomb from 7:00PM until 7:00PM - two full days
Saturday In the tomb from 7:00PM until 7:00PM - three full days.
Sunday (First day of the week) Arose at 7:00PM (Theoretically) (Start of Sunday)
Sunday Followers arrive at the tomb early to find He had already arisen. Record doesn't say when He arose.
Sunday This timetable shows a 12 hour lapse between when He arose and when His followers arrived at the Tomb.