Three Days and Three Nights

[rstrats]

I probably should have addressed the OP to those who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week.

 

[jackdove]

well may be i m wrong again in saying thus, but as far as my understanding on bible, i can most assuredly say that our lord was crucified on wednesday and rose on saturday evening just before the sun down thus resting on sabbath thats the weekly sabbath, as on that particular year there were two sabbaths one on thursday thats the high sabbath which was the passover sabbath, followed by the weekly sabbath, so if you can recount the events we will notice that Joseph of armatiah who was the great grand uncle of Jesus who indeed was a very high influential and wealthy man goes to pilate to ask for lords body as no ordianary man could do that, so using his wealth and top position he takes down lords body and put it in his own spelchure which was belonging on to him thats on wednesday evening before the sunset, the next day is high sabbath so everyone rest, and early morning on friday the ladies goes to the market to buy the necessary things to prepar for lords body, then comes the weelky sabbath so they rest again thats from friday evening to saturday evening and very early the first day of the week thats on sunday they go to the tomb and find it empty so yes our lord was already risen on the closing hours of sabbath thats the weekly sabbath saturday thus completing three nights and three days, as days starts with night followed by day so wednesday night the first night followed by thursday day the first day the thursday night the second night followed by friday the second day, the friday night the third night followed by saturday day the third day, so before the saturday night which would have beenthe fourth night lord was risen up, this is what i have understood as it says in the gospel of John chapter 11 and verse 9 are there not 12 hours in a day and this is a very very vital sign for every christian church to understand the SIGN of three days and three nights as this is one of the biggest teachings of Christ and you can read the post that i have posted titled two churches

 

[rstrats]

jackdove,

Do you know of any writing as requested in the OP?

 

[rstrats]

Someone new looking in may know of some writing.

 

[john832]

I was taught in Latin class that this is kind of how the Romans counted all the time; they counted the beginning and end of a series. Jesus died before sunset on Firday ( 1day), in the tomb Friday night to Saturday night (Jews count days from sunset to sunset), and He rose after Saturday sunset, thus on Sunday. We still do it in music. C to E is called a third, though by our way of counting, it is two notes higher. I do not know any specific examples from ancient Rome off hand.

Curiously, we do the opposite going from BC to AD. There is no year 0, so 1BC to 1AD is only one year.

Is that how the Romans counted in the book of Jonah? Oh wait, the Romans were not even around then. If it were not three 12 hour days and three 12 hour nights, you have no Savior...

Christ said that He would give only one sign that He was the Savior...

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

It really does matter...

Buried around sunset on Wednesday, arose around sunset on Saturday and was already gone when the women came to the tomb on Sunday morning before daylight.

 

[john832]

well may be i m wrong again in saying thus, but as far as my understanding on bible, i can most assuredly say that our lord was crucified on wednesday and rose on saturday evening just before the sun down thus resting on sabbath thats the weekly sabbath, as on that particular year there were two sabbaths one on thursday thats the high sabbath which was the passover sabbath, followed by the weekly sabbath, so if you can recount the events we will notice that Joseph of armatiah who was the great grand uncle of Jesus who indeed was a very high influential and wealthy man goes to pilate to ask for lords body as no ordianary man could do that, so using his wealth and top position he takes down lords body and put it in his own spelchure which was belonging on to him thats on wednesday evening before the sunset, the next day is high sabbath so everyone rest, and early morning on friday the ladies goes to the market to buy the necessary things to prepar for lords body, then comes the weelky sabbath so they rest again thats from friday evening to saturday evening and very early the first day of the week thats on sunday they go to the tomb and find it empty so yes our lord was already risen on the closing hours of sabbath thats the weekly sabbath saturday thus completing three nights and three days, as days starts with night followed by day so wednesday night the first night followed by thursday day the first day the thursday night the second night followed by friday the second day, the friday night the third night followed by saturday day the third day, so before the saturday night which would have beenthe fourth night lord was risen up, this is what i have understood as it says in the gospel of John chapter 11 and verse 9 are there not 12 hours in a day and this is a very very vital sign for every christian church to understand the SIGN of three days and three nights as this is one of the biggest teachings of Christ and you can read the post that i have posted titled two churches

And you my friend are 100% correct! This is the only way all the scriptures about His death, burial and resurrection can be harmonized.

Now what year did this occur? 31AD 457BC when the decree went forth and add 483 year and we come to 27AD (taking into account there is no year zero). Christ was crucifed on the Passover in 31AD.

 

[john832]

Someone new looking in may know of some writing.

Just curious, why do you need a secular source?

 

[enoch1nine]

Many arguments to make in favor of them having counted in advance.

But the best one is faith that the thing that has been counted will come to completion.

That should be all we need to know to cement it.

Saying the word "today" is the best example, when you say it, you have counted it.

 

[rstrats]

john832,

re: "Just curious, why do you need a secular source?"


Either a scriptural or secular source from the period will be fine.

 

[just-me]

Whenever the three days and three nights of Matthew 12:40 is brought up in a "discussion" with 6th day crucifixion folks, they frequently argue that it is a Jewish idiom for counting any part of a day as a whole day. I wonder if anyone has documentation that shows that the phrase "x" days and "x"nights was ever used in the first century or before when it didn’t include at least parts of the "x" days and at least parts of the "x" nights?

It all started with the Passover while the children of Israel were still enslaved in Egypt. They were to take a lamb on the 10th day of the first month and slaughter it on the 14[SUP]th[/SUP] day. The 3 days and 3 nights are equated with Jonah, which is the very same word as “dove” used in sacrifices in Levitical descriptions. With that said, we can look into the Hebrew calendar of AD 31 and see that Jesus came into Jerusalem on the 10[SUP]th[/SUP] day of the month preparing for the annual Passover feast. He was arrested and crucified on the 14[SUP]th[/SUP] day of that month which happened to be a Wednesday. He hung on the cross between the hours of 9 am and died at 3 pm, which is the exact time of the burning of incense and trimming the lamps i.e. the Menorah. This was a time of prayer for the Jews. He was taken down from the cross before sundown on the 15th, which was the beginning of the Passover Sabbath, which was Thursday, and buried. The first day of the following week, which was the 18th He rose from the dead and was seen by Mary in the garden. The weekly Sabbath was the 17[SUP]th[/SUP]. This accounts for the 3 days, and 3 nights that Christ was in the grave. Hope this helps.

 

[rstrats]

just-me,

re: " Hope this helps."


I'm afraid not. I'm only looking for what was requested in the OP.

 

[john832]

john832,

re: "Just curious, why do you need a secular source?"


Either a scriptural or secular source from the period will be fine.

There have been several scriptural sources given, i.e. the three days three nights, 12 hours in a day, etc. No undercurrent intended, I was just curious.

 

[JaumeJ]

Is it possible 1 BC to the end of 1 AD is two years? 0 would neither augment nor diminish the time.
That does seem logical to me.

I was taught in Latin class that this is kind of how the Romans counted all the time; they counted the beginning and end of a series. Jesus died before sunset on Firday ( 1day), in the tomb Friday night to Saturday night (Jews count days from sunset to sunset), and He rose after Saturday sunset, thus on Sunday. We still do it in music. C to E is called a third, though by our way of counting, it is two notes higher. I do not know any specific examples from ancient Rome off hand.

Curiously, we do the opposite going from BC to AD. There is no year 0, so 1BC to 1AD is only one year.

 

[rstrats]

john832,

re: "There have been several scriptural sources given..."
　


I haven't seen any writing from scripture that specifies a certain number of day times and/or a certain number of night times for a period of time where the period absolutely couldn't have included at least a part of each one of the specified number of day times and/or at least a part of each one of the specified number of night times. Perhaps when you get a moment you could identify a post where you think that that has been done.

 

[JaumeJ]

Mat 12:39
But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

Mat 12:40
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

john832,

re: "There have been several scriptural sources given..."
　


I haven't seen any writing from scripture that specifies a certain number of day times and/or a certain number of night times for a period of time where the period absolutely couldn't have included at least a part of each one of the specified number of day times and/or at least a part of each one of the specified number of night times. Perhaps when you get a moment you could identify a post where you think that that has been done.

 

[JaumeJ]

As pertaining to what Yahweh foretold about Yeshua, I believe it all whether I count correctly or not. It is quite possible, to many probabl, that our Lord, Yeshua rose on Monday. As people say, Whatever! He was in the earth three days and three nights, and I know the calendar for this prophesy is LUNAR, should this make a difference. I know He died before sunset on the sixth day.

I post this knowing "how" I believe is not important, but it is my way, and I feel it worth sharing with the family in Yeshua.

There is no burden when we believe the Word in faith. If people wish to dispute, they will dispute..

 

[rstrats]

JaumeJ,

Do you know of any writing as requested in the OP?

 

[JaumeJ]

I have heard this teaching, just as I have heard many "rabbinical teachings" from which I always run away.
It was rabbinical teachings that our Lord, Yeshua, argued against much of the time with the scribes and the Pharisees. My understanding of rabbinical teachings are those teachings taught but not found in scripture.

It is that type of teaching prevalent in the theologies under the umbrella classification of Christianity that prevents my joining any particular denomonation, although I consider anyone, anywhere, who loves Yeshua as God and Savior as my family no matter what they think their theology is. Calling Yeshua, Jesus, is no problem for me either as long as the person calling that name loves Him as the Lamb of God, Yahweh.

Back to how the days were counted, I can only allow myself the common sense Yahweh gives me in counting three days and three nights, and that would have to inlude each one of them.. I will stand corrected when it is found to be written otherwise.

Keep in mind, as disciples of Yeshua, we believe He fulfilled all Holy Scripture and the prophets, so should there be some kind of error in the translations on the days is realy moot, since His gift to us is always the same, free salvation and grace. If you look at the statue of Moses with the Tablets, I believe it is in the Vatican, you will see Moses has horns! That is due to a centuries' old misconception and mistranslated line from the Word. When Moses came down from the mount he had rays emitting from his head, it was translated for centuries as he had horns coming out of his head. Things happen, but Yahweh is good all of the time............amen.

JaumeJ,

Do you know of any writing as requested in the OP?

 

[rstrats]

JaumeJ,

re: " I can only allow myself the common sense Yahweh gives me in counting three days and three nights, and that would have to inlude each one of them.."

So you're not a 6th day crucifixion adherent. Perhaps someone who is will know of some writing.

 

[JaumeJ]

How did you get that? I believe Yeshua was crucified on the sixth day because it is written He had to be taken down before sunset because it was to be the Sabbath. At least this is what I have always thought.