THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

[VCO]

I figured out how to measure what is 600 feet, and the Temple's outer walls were 600 feet, and corrected my estimate a little bit. I had to move the Temple about a 100 feet further south and about that much further west. Still one Hundred percent convinced it Belongs on the OPHEL. Not as much convinced I got the David's Sacrifice Altar in the correct position. But that rock formation look right.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

Hello VCO ,

I would like to pick your brains on the temple mount and temple since you are the expert here, I had this idea ( you will likely not approve) about a temporary temple on temple mount, like the tabernacle described in Exodus 25,26 and 27. I saw somewhere the size if the tabernacle and outer court would be about 25 meters by 50 meters.

In your opinion, would this fit anywhere on the temple mount, I was thinking over the stables and east gardens? would something of this size fit there?

Thank you.

 

[VCO]

Hello VCO ,

I would like to pick your brains on the temple mount and temple since you are the expert here, I had this idea ( you will likely not approve) about a temporary temple on temple mount, like the tabernacle described in Exodus 25,26 and 27. I saw somewhere the size if the tabernacle and outer court would be about 25 meters by 50 meters.

In your opinion, would this fit anywhere on the temple mount, I was thinking over the stables and east gardens? would something of this size fit there?

Thank you.

That is illegal according to Jewish Law. Nothing out side of the of the SITE were KING DAVID met with God and the Angel, can ever be called the TEMPLE. Pray for the Diggers in the Parking Lot dig, to find something that puts the TEMPLE Down on the OPHEL where it Belongs.



In the past, there has been Jews, that thought like you, place a Tabernacle were ever you want, as it is movable.
The Sanhedrin rejected that idea, because they want to Build a TEMPLE. I don't think any of the Sanhedrin read Christian Posts, but maybe a few in Israel do read occasionally on this subject. So I must remember, maybe a few Jews read my posts, as well as lots of Christians. There's a few like the City of David's tour guide, Franny, have heard some Christian, or Messianic Teachings. So I do pray for her too. She's the one that said, "If you are looking for Ancient Jerusalem, it is not up there in the Old City. It is down here in the in the City of David." And she is absolutely correct.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

That is illegal according to Jewish Law. Nothing out side of the of the SITE were KING DAVID met with God and the Angel, can ever be called the TEMPLE. Pray for the Diggers in the Parking Lot dig, to find something that puts the TEMPLE Down on the OPHEL where it Belongs.

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In the past, there has been Jews, that thought like you, place a Tabernacle were ever you want, as it is movable.
The Sanhedrin rejected that idea, because they want to Build a TEMPLE. I don't think any of the Sanhedrin read Christian Posts, but maybe a few in Israel do read occasionally on this subject. So I must remember, maybe a few Jews read my posts, as well as lots of Christians. There's a few like the City of David's tour guide, Franny, have heard some Christian, or Messianic Teachings. So I do pray for her too. She's the one that said, "If you are looking for Ancient Jerusalem, it is not up there in the Old City. It is down here in the in the City of David." And she is absolutely correct.

Hello VCO, thank you for your reply.

The tabernacle was used as a temporary structure in waiting for the temple. the law you mention I think, would not apply to a tabernacle unless you can prove me wrong which is very possible you are more knowledgeable than me on this. I agree, the Jewish peoples want their temple! they are ready! As far as I know they want to build it on the temple mount. The Sanhedrin have been wrong before it would not be the first time. I have read they they have all the stones cut for the temple but are kept in a undisclosed location. I think also they need the ark of the covenant, my guess is they also know where it is hidden and will not reveal it until the time they decide to rebuild. for the rest, they have the levites that are ready and have practiced. The red heifers needed for the purification rites have been found.

I agree the temple or tabernacle should be located on the site of the city of David not on the site of fort Antonia. I have read most of your posts over the last few months they are very informative and well researched and I thank you for that.

The reason I mention a tabernacle is because of the book of revelations;

Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

Imagine the momentum a temporary tabernacle would have for the reconstruction of the temple!

As for the dig of the parking lot, do you know when they will start this? I am eager to see the findings. I will keep reading your posts,

Blessings and thank you!

 

[VCO]

About 10 Years Later, most of the trees were about the same height, with indicates they were planet about ten years ago.



Back in the Dust Bowl days almost every farm in the mid-west USA, planted Shelter Belt of Trees to keep the top soil in place by braking up the wind. Now 3 or 4 generations later, these young farmers are all cutting down those Shelter Belt of Trees, just to plant a few more rows of crops. I have to wonder the lessons of their Grandfathers, or Great-Grandfathers have been FORGOTTEN.
When is a GOD going to allow a new DUST BOWL DAYS, to re-occur.

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Type https ahead of that above line, if you want to see what the Dust Bowl days were really like.

 

[VCO]

TYPO's, getting tired:

About 10 Years Later, most of the trees were about the same height, which indicates they were planted about ten years ago.

 

[ripeolive]

The temple will be built in its place on the southwest corner of the Temple Mount. The position of the center of the holy of holies, the top of mount Zion (Psalms 125:1), that still stands (1 Kings 9:3, 2 Chronicles 7:16, Ezra 1:4, 3:8, 5:15, 6:5):

Now be ye not stiffnecked, as your fathers were, but yield yourselves unto the LORD, and enter into his sanctuary, which he hath sanctified for ever: and serve the LORD your God, that the fierceness of his wrath may turn away from you. 2 Chronicles 30:8

- is Latitude 31.776839547786° N Longitude 035.234745767237° E.

The first temple was burned by fire (2 Kings 25:9), but it was not destroyed (demolished). It was just covered up (Nehemiah 4:2, Jeremiah 9:11). The ark of the covenant of the LORD is still there (1 Kings 8:8, 2 Chronicles 5:9, 2 Chronicles 35:3), right before the curtain (2 Chronicles 3:14) that was torn in two when Jesus died on the cross (Matthew 27:51, Mark 15:38, Luke 23:45). And all of the vessels of gold and silver are in it, from when they came back into the temple (Ezra 1:7-11, 5:14,15, 6:5), just as it was prophesied (Jeremiah 27:19-22, 28:6).

The position of the center of the holy of holies, of the first temple - that will be the position of the center of the holy of holies of the temple about to be built (built directly on top of the first temple, just like the second temple was) - comes from where Ezekiel was placed on the top of "a very high mountain" (Ezekiel 40:2), also known as The Foundation Stone today (under what is called The Dome of the Rock today) (position Latitude 31.778000° N Longitude 035.235401° E) - the outer (northern) side of the northern outer court "gate" (Ezekiel 40:3,20), about to be built. From there it is just a measurement of 250 great cubits due south (Ezekiel 40:21 [50 great cubits], Ezekiel 40:23 [100 great cubits], Ezekiel 40:36 [50 great cubits], Ezekiel 40:47 [50 great cubits]), then 120 great cubits due west of there (Ezekiel 40:47 [50 great cubits], Ezekiel 40:49 [20 great cubits], Ezekiel 41:2 [40 great cubits], Ezekiel 41:4 [10 great cubits]) (position Latitude 31.776839547786° N Longitude 035.235401° E). And the length of a great cubit comes from the length of a cubit, that comes from the length of a Roman foot, that comes from the book:

DISCOVRSE OF THE ROMANE FOOT, AND DENARIVS: From whence, as from two principles, THE MEASVRES, AND WEIGHTS, used by the Ancients, may be deduced. By JOHN GREAVES, Professor of Astronomy in the Vniversity of Oxford. LONDON, Printed by M.F. for William Lee, and are to be sold at his shop at the sign of the Turkshead in Fleet-street. 1647. (pages 22, 41)

1 Roman foot = 11.604 inches (1,934 ÷ 2,000 = 0.967, 0.967 × 12 = 11.604)

1 hand breadth = 2.901 inches (11.604 inches ÷ 4 = 2.901)

1 cubit = 17.406 inches (2.901 inches × 6 = 17.406) = 1.4505 foot (17.406 inches ÷ 12 = 1.4505) = 1 foot, 5.406 inches (0.4505 foot × 12 = 5.406) = 1 cubit "after the cubit of a man" (Deuteronomy 3:11), "after the first measure" (2 Chronicles 3:3), and "according to the measure of a man" (Revelation 21:17)

1 great cubit (used for all of Ezekiel [chapters] 40 - 48) = 20.307 inches (2.901 inches × 7 = 20.307) = 1.69225 foot (20.307 inches ÷ 12 = 1.69225) = 1 foot, 8.307 inches (0.69225 foot × 12 = 8.307) = 1 "great" (Ezekiel 41:8) cubit, and a "cubit and an hand breadth" (Ezekiel 40:5, 43:13)

1 full reed (used for all of Ezekiel [chapters] 40 - 48) = 121.842 inches (20.307 inches × 6 = 121.842) = 10.1535 feet (121.842 inches ÷ 12 = 10.1535) = 10 feet, 1.842 inch (0.1535 foot × 12 = 1.842) = 1 "full reed of six great cubits" (Ezekiel 41:8)

The Wailing Wall, The Dome of the Rock, and The Al-Aqsa Mosque will all be torn down to build the temple and the city described in Ezekiel (chapters) 40 - 48.

And at the end of the world, at the end of the 1,000 year reign of Jesus, they will not visit the ark of the covenant of the LORD anymore:

And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more. Jeremiah 3:16

 

[VCO]

The temple will be built in its place on the southwest corner of the Temple Mount. The position of the center of the holy of holies, the top of mount Zion (Psalms 125:1), that still stands (1 Kings 9:3, 2 Chronicles 7:16, Ezra 1:4, 3:8, 5:15, 6:5):

Now be ye not stiffnecked, as your fathers were, but yield yourselves unto the LORD, and enter into his sanctuary, which he hath sanctified for ever: and serve the LORD your God, that the fierceness of his wrath may turn away from you. 2 Chronicles 30:8

- is Latitude 31.776839547786° N Longitude 035.234745767237° E.

The first temple was burned by fire (2 Kings 25:9), but it was not destroyed (demolished). It was just covered up (Nehemiah 4:2, Jeremiah 9:11). The ark of the covenant of the LORD is still there (1 Kings 8:8, 2 Chronicles 5:9, 2 Chronicles 35:3), right before the curtain (2 Chronicles 3:14) that was torn in two when Jesus died on the cross (Matthew 27:51, Mark 15:38, Luke 23:45). And all of the vessels of gold and silver are in it, from when they came back into the temple (Ezra 1:7-11, 5:14,15, 6:5), just as it was prophesied (Jeremiah 27:19-22, 28:6).

The position of the center of the holy of holies, of the first temple - that will be the position of the center of the holy of holies of the temple about to be built (built directly on top of the first temple, just like the second temple was) - comes from where Ezekiel was placed on the top of "a very high mountain" (Ezekiel 40:2), also known as The Foundation Stone today (under what is called The Dome of the Rock today) (position Latitude 31.778000° N Longitude 035.235401° E) - the outer (northern) side of the northern outer court "gate" (Ezekiel 40:3,20), about to be built. From there it is just a measurement of 250 great cubits due south (Ezekiel 40:21 [50 great cubits], Ezekiel 40:23 [100 great cubits], Ezekiel 40:36 [50 great cubits], Ezekiel 40:47 [50 great cubits]), then 120 great cubits due west of there (Ezekiel 40:47 [50 great cubits], Ezekiel 40:49 [20 great cubits], Ezekiel 41:2 [40 great cubits], Ezekiel 41:4 [10 great cubits]) (position Latitude 31.776839547786° N Longitude 035.235401° E). And the length of a great cubit comes from the length of a cubit, that comes from the length of a Roman foot, that comes from the book:

DISCOVRSE OF THE ROMANE FOOT, AND DENARIVS: From whence, as from two principles, THE MEASVRES, AND WEIGHTS, used by the Ancients, may be deduced. By JOHN GREAVES, Professor of Astronomy in the Vniversity of Oxford. LONDON, Printed by M.F. for William Lee, and are to be sold at his shop at the sign of the Turkshead in Fleet-street. 1647. (pages 22, 41)

1 Roman foot = 11.604 inches (1,934 ÷ 2,000 = 0.967, 0.967 × 12 = 11.604)

1 hand breadth = 2.901 inches (11.604 inches ÷ 4 = 2.901)

1 cubit = 17.406 inches (2.901 inches × 6 = 17.406) = 1.4505 foot (17.406 inches ÷ 12 = 1.4505) = 1 foot, 5.406 inches (0.4505 foot × 12 = 5.406) = 1 cubit "after the cubit of a man" (Deuteronomy 3:11), "after the first measure" (2 Chronicles 3:3), and "according to the measure of a man" (Revelation 21:17)

1 great cubit (used for all of Ezekiel [chapters] 40 - 48) = 20.307 inches (2.901 inches × 7 = 20.307) = 1.69225 foot (20.307 inches ÷ 12 = 1.69225) = 1 foot, 8.307 inches (0.69225 foot × 12 = 8.307) = 1 "great" (Ezekiel 41:8) cubit, and a "cubit and an hand breadth" (Ezekiel 40:5, 43:13)

1 full reed (used for all of Ezekiel [chapters] 40 - 48) = 121.842 inches (20.307 inches × 6 = 121.842) = 10.1535 feet (121.842 inches ÷ 12 = 10.1535) = 10 feet, 1.842 inch (0.1535 foot × 12 = 1.842) = 1 "full reed of six great cubits" (Ezekiel 41:8)

The Wailing Wall, The Dome of the Rock, and The Al-Aqsa Mosque will all be torn down to build the temple and the city described in Ezekiel (chapters) 40 - 48.

And at the end of the world, at the end of the 1,000 year reign of Jesus, they will not visit the ark of the covenant of the LORD anymore:

And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more. Jeremiah 3:16

So what has all that, got to do with the subject at hand?

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

Hello VCO you have probably seen in the news the discovery of ;
300-meter stretch of aqueduct from late Second Temple period uncovered in Jerusalem

https://www.timesofisrael.com/300-m...-second-temple-period-uncovered-in-jerusalem/

I hope this will help in your research, I do not have the knowledge to analyze this data but I know you will understand if it is important or not for the new temple they want to build.

Blessings, I hope you are well.

 

[Bruce_Leiter]

THIRD TEMPLE - Has to be built on the site of Solomon's TEMPLE

Matthew 24:2 (ESV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”

So how was that Prophecy about the TEMPLE from JESUS, FULFILLED to the LETTER? Contrary to popular belief, Solomon's Temple was not on what the JEWS today call the TEMPLE MOUNT; and there is a lot more to the Story than just the damage done by the ROMAN'S in 70 A.D.


In addition to the Roman destruction of the TEMPLE, the Macabean King Simon, ordered the real TEMPLE MOUNT in what is now called the City of David, but was then at the time of Christ, the original location of Jerusalem; TURNED INTO A ROCK QUARRY. He did that because of what the Romans did in 70 A.D., saying even the Rock base was therefore DEFILED on the original Temple Mount. Macabeans removed several meters of rock and used it to fill in the Valley to the South, making a fairly level road coming in from the South to Jerusalem. That distance from the Southern Wall of Fort Antonia to the TEMPLE is only a difference of about 400 ft. to the south of what is today the city limits of Jerusalem.

The Dome of the Rock is in the CENTER of Fort Antonia.

On the Left is the South Wall in the Southeast corner, that is the property line for Jerusalem, South of that Wall is now the City of David. The silverish domed Mosque would be the Southwest corner of Fort Antonia, in this lower Picture.

See that big tree in the Olive grove left of the silver colored steel dome, it may be the one that is the oldest Olive Trees in Israel. At least I think that is the tree they were talking about. It would be about the Northwest corner of the TEMPLE OUTER WALL. See that turn in the road going to the right towards that big tree. To the left of that intersection is good size building with what looks like a bell tower. THAT BUILDING MAY BE SITTING ON THE ORIGINAL LOCATION OF SOLOMON'S TEMPLE. Somebody has to move the road, however the Palestinians have no claim to land south of that silver dome.

The Archeologists, and one of them is an Israelite, have been seeking an audiance with the Israeli Government, and the Temple Institute, and getting NO RESPONSE. They think it is because they have a very big, bitter pill to swallow, in admitting they have been praying at the WRONG WALL all these years. The Archeologists are convinced they can PROVE the Whaling Wall is actually only part of Fort Antonia.

Here is the Video the Archeologists recently put on You Tube:

NEWEST VIDEO Proving the TEMPLE WAS IN THE
CITY OF DAVID, South Just Outside JERUSALEM.
Video published June 18th, 2017

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I don't think it makes any difference where the temple was. Paul (temple) and John (new Jerusalem) made it clear that believers are the stones of God's temple with Jesus as the cornerstone and capstone.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

I don't think it makes any difference where the temple was. Paul (temple) and John (new Jerusalem) made it clear that believers are the stones of God's temple with Jesus as the cornerstone and capstone.

You are right of course but scriptures tend to point to a third temple, knowing the Jewish peoples, they will build it where the Sanhedrin think it was, I think the current site they say the second temple was is most likely the roman fort Antonia, there seem to be compelling evidence it was originally in the city of David, excavations will tell one day....

Blessings.

 

[VCO]

I don't think it makes any difference where the temple was. Paul (temple) and John (new Jerusalem) made it clear that believers are the stones of God's temple with Jesus as the cornerstone and capstone.

Now, that is a Unlearned Opinion. It had to be in the exact spot, for the third Temple to be in.

Here is the exact spot, approximately minus 200 on the left side of Ft. Antonia.

 

[Jimbone]

Now, that is a Unlearned Opinion. It had to be in the exact spot, for the third Temple to be in.

Here is the exact spot, approximately minus 200 on the left side of Ft. Antonia.

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When did God command His people to build this "3rd" temple like He did with the other two? Does God not need to command His people to build Him a temple, if it is in fact going to be His temple? Also why do we need the temple that foreshadowed the coming of Jesus now that we already have Jesus? Also if God did/does command us to build this temple, does this mean that scripture is reopened? Is God is going back to giving direct revelation again? I would love to know the answer to these things before I can jump on board with exactly where the temple "needs" to be.

 

[VCO]

When did God command His people to build this "3rd" temple like He did with the other two? Does God not need to command His people to build Him a temple, if it is in fact going to be His temple? Also why do we need the temple that foreshadowed the coming of Jesus now that we already have Jesus? Also if God did/does command us to build this temple, does this mean that scripture is reopened? Is God is going back to giving direct revelation again? I would love to know the answer to these things before I can jump on board with exactly where the temple "needs" to be.

You do know that the Third Temple is described in the New Testament?

2 Thes. 2 (HCSB)
3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For that day will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction.
4 He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits in God’s sanctuary, publicizing that he himself is God.

In Ezekiel Chapters 40 - 48 will describe Ezekiel vision of Earth's Millennial Temple.

And just incase you think you changed GOD's Plans, NO YOU DID NOT!

Isaiah 46:11 (HCSB)
11 I call a bird of prey from the east, a man for My purpose from a far country.
Yes, I have spoken; so I will also bring it about.
I have planned it; I will also do it.

 

[VCO]

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

 

[VCO]

Hello VCO ,

I would like to pick your brains on the temple mount and temple since you are the expert here, I had this idea ( you will likely not approve) about a temporary temple on temple mount, like the tabernacle described in Exodus 25,26 and 27. I saw somewhere the size if the tabernacle and outer court would be about 25 meters by 50 meters.

In your opinion, would this fit anywhere on the temple mount, I was thinking over the stables and east gardens? would something of this size fit there?

Thank you.

The Tabernacle can be move from place to place.

The TEMPLE cannot be move be us humans, it can be moved by GOD HIMSELF. So far HE has not given us permission to move it.

There had been a discussion to place a Tabernacle on Mt. of Olives, but that suggestion has met with some fierce oppositions.

The Temple Mt. idea, is wrong; as Josephus has placed it 600 feet to the south of the Southern Wall. But the Jews do not Trust Josephus' opinion, even tho he was a first century Historian. Josephus arrived in Jerusalem shortly after Jesus death to take the Job of Historian. He was employed by the Romans, and his Job was to be Historian. But Josephus was a JEW at that time, and in fact earlier in his life he was a councilman at the age 14 to the High Priest. But because he worked for the ROMANS, and Josephus became a Christian shortly after his arrival to take the Job as Historian, THE JEWS DID NOT TRUST HIM.

 

[VCO]

Okay, BETHEL is have ways between Jerusalem and Bethlehem.


Bethel was Pre-Jerusalem, and Pre-Bethlehem.
Notice the Town of Ophrah, is on the eastern edge of the OPHEL.
What to you bet, the Ophel was named after the town of Ophrah.


Some maps have Bethel up North of Jerusalem, but I Believe it is south
and a little ways western, of Jerusalem, the way it was 2000 years ago.


That is the right distance of having Bethel from Jerusalem. Guess what does Bethel mean
in the Hebrew? It means in the Hebrew, House of GOD.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

The Tabernacle can be move from place to place.

The TEMPLE cannot be move be us humans, it can be moved by GOD HIMSELF. So far HE has not given us permission to move it.

There had been a discussion to place a Tabernacle on Mt. of Olives, but that suggestion has met with some fierce oppositions.

The Temple Mt. idea, is wrong; as Josephus has placed it 600 feet to the south of the Southern Wall. But the Jews do not Trust Josephus' opinion, even tho he was a first century Historian. Josephus arrived in Jerusalem shortly after Jesus death to take the Job of Historian. He was employed by the Romans, and his Job was to be Historian. But Josephus was a JEW at that time, and in fact earlier in his life he was a councilman at the age 14 to the High Priest. But because he worked for the ROMANS, and Josephus became a Christian shortly after his arrival to take the Job as Historian, THE JEWS DID NOT TRUST HIM.

Josephus did not become a christian.
Where did you get your information?

 

[VCO]

Josephus did not become a christian.
Where did you get your information?

Oh yes he DID.

WIKEPEDIA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus

While being confined at Yodfat (Jotapata), Josephus claimed to have experienced a divine revelation that later led to his speech predicting Vespasian would become emperor. After the prediction came true, he was released by Vespasian, who considered his gift of prophecy to be divine. Josephus wrote that his revelation had taught him three things: that God, the creator of the Jewish people, had decided to "punish" them; that "fortune" had been given to the Romans; and that God had chosen him "to announce the things that are to come".

 

[Komentaja]

Oh yes he DID.

WIKEPEDIA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus

While being confined at Yodfat (Jotapata), Josephus claimed to have experienced a divine revelation that later led to his speech predicting Vespasian would become emperor. After the prediction came true, he was released by Vespasian, who considered his gift of prophecy to be divine. Josephus wrote that his revelation had taught him three things: that God, the creator of the Jewish people, had decided to "punish" them; that "fortune" had been given to the Romans; and that God had chosen him "to announce the things that are to come".

Which part of that says he converted?