THIRD TEMPLE NEWS
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IT will not be a catalyst, when the Temple is built in the City of David. For 3.5 years Israel will live in peace.
BUT AFTER THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN:
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (NCV)
3 Do not let anyone fool you in any way. That day of the Lord will not come until the turning away from God happens and the Man of Evil, who is on his way to hell, appears. {There has to be a THIRD TEMPLE in the City of David, for this to be FULFILLED by the Antichrist.}
4 He will be against and put himself above anything called God or anything that people worship. And that Man of Evil will even go into God’s Temple and sit there and say that he is God.
If you are correct then how is it that the Jewish leaders and the Sanhedrin are not aware of it. Why do they all still pray at the western wall??THIRD TEMPLE - Has to be built on the site of Solomon's TEMPLE
Matthew 24:2 (ESV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”
So how was that Prophecy about the TEMPLE from JESUS, FULFILLED to the LETTER? Contrary to popular belief, Solomon's Temple was not on what the JEWS today call the TEMPLE MOUNT; and there is a lot more to the Story than just the damage done by the ROMAN'S in 70 A.D.
In addition to the Roman destruction of the TEMPLE, the Macabean King Simon, ordered the real TEMPLE MOUNT in what is now called the City of David, but was then at the time of Christ, the original location of Jerusalem; TURNED INTO A ROCK QUARRY. He did that because of what the Romans did in 70 A.D., saying even the Rock base was therefore DEFILED on the original Temple Mount. Macabeans removed several meters of rock and used it to fill in the Valley to the South, making a fairly level road coming in from the South to Jerusalem. That distance from the Southern Wall of Fort Antonia to the TEMPLE is only a difference of about 400 ft. to the south of what is today the city limits of Jerusalem.
The Dome of the Rock is in the CENTER of Fort Antonia.
On the Left is the South Wall in the Southeast corner, that is the property line for Jerusalem, South of that Wall is now the City of David. The silverish domed Mosque would be the Southwest corner of Fort Antonia, in this lower Picture.
See that big tree in the Olive grove left of the silver colored steel dome, it may be the one that is the oldest Olive Trees in Israel. At least I think that is the tree they were talking about. It would be about the Northwest corner of the TEMPLE OUTER WALL. See that turn in the road going to the right towards that big tree. To the left of that intersection is good size building with what looks like a bell tower. THAT BUILDING MAY BE SITTING ON THE ORIGINAL LOCATION OF SOLOMON'S TEMPLE. Somebody has to move the road, however the Palestinians have no claim to land south of that silver dome.
The Archeologists, and one of them is an Israelite, have been seeking an audiance with the Israeli Government, and the Temple Institute, and getting NO RESPONSE. They think it is because they have a very big, bitter pill to swallow, in admitting they have been praying at the WRONG WALL all these years. The Archeologists are convinced they can PROVE the Whaling Wall is actually only part of Fort Antonia.
Here is the Video the Archeologists recently put on You Tube:
NEWEST VIDEO Proving the TEMPLE WAS IN THE
CITY OF DAVID, South Just Outside JERUSALEM.
Video published June 18th, 2017
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I don't think it is a good idea to question whether or not someone is saved or not. I would say that judging if someone is saved or not is a judgement reserved for God only. Only God can see into that hearts of men. It is impossible for us to do that which should tell us that we have no business doing Gods job. There are lots of folks out there who are living a life of unrepented and I can see their not walking the walk but I wouldn't dare to presume to know their hearts and do Gods job for Him.
Happens all of the time in the BDF. It's par for the course.
That's cocky of you. And totally not in line with anything I was discussing prior. Did you have fun at least?
That doesn't mean that God approves of it. Sin happens every second so just because it happens every second does that mean that God approves of it???
If you're referring to me I assure you, you are wrong. You don't see the game they're playing.
Having some posters on ignore looks strange because the thread reads as though some people are talking to themselves or arguing with the air.
If you are referring to who I think you are I put him on ignore a while back because I got fed up of him ignoring scripture.
And using his misguided replacement theology to nullify every promise of God.
The Videos are mostly from Christian Archaeologists, and the Jews are a automatically suspicious of anything from Christians. The Videos after Jan. 2019 have MORE PROOF IN THEM than earlier videos, they have unearthed some amazing finds in the City of David. So start with this Video from Nov. 17th, 2019.
Now to give you some of the background, without you having to go thru, all of my Posts; but I welcome you if you are that interested.
The TEMPLE prior to 70 A.D. would have taken up about this space on the Southern part of the Ophel.
After the Romans as a final act of their 70 A.D. SIEGE, TORE DOWN every stone of the TEMPLE, which was in the Southern part of the Ophel, and most of the Jerusalem. It looked as if it was a plowed field. We according to JOESEPHUS the Historian, an eye witness, (JEWS THINK HE EXAGGERATES), reports that the Temple was all gone and including the foundation stones. So that ONLY the Fortress Antonia, the largest building left in Jerusalem and the City of David, remained on the next higher Hill, where it Housed the Roman 10th Legion, some 6000 Troops and 4000 support Staff. The reason so many support staff, as it was the size of several cities, with stores, Roman Baths, Hospital, and such, so every need of the Troops were right there. Then sometime between 70 A.D. and 132 A.D. the ROMANS built a Temple to the Roman god Jupiter, WHERE THE JEWISH TEMPLE ONCE STOOD.
The Romans tore down every stone that was part of the TEMPLE COMPLEX in 70 AD. THEN, in 132 the Simon bar Kokhba started a REVOLT, because the Romans built a Temple to Jupiter on that real Temple Mount, and he successfully kicked the Romans Out of the Country of Israel. In 132 - 135 A.D. the leader of the Revolt became Prince Simon bar Kokhba. Because Simon considered the entire Temple Mount defiled by that pagan Temple, so Simon bar Kokhba, who became Prince over the Jewish State after kicking the Romans out, he ordered in 132 A.D. the Temple Mount (including the Ophel) turned into a rock quarry to remove the defiled bed rock. It may have been lowered several feet or even meters. So the Ophel, or Mount Zion was lowered to almost ground level.
Then the Romans retook the Country in late 135 A.D. Massacred thousands in the Jerusalem, including Simom, and the war went on until 136 A.D. According to Cassius Dio, 580,000 Jews were killed in overall war operations across the country, and some 50 fortified towns and 985 villages razed to the ground, while those who perished by famine, disease and fire was past finding out. So costly was the Roman victory that the Emperor Hadrian, when reporting to the Roman Senate, did not see fit to begin with the customary greeting “If you and your children are healthy, it is well; I and the legions are healthy.” Most of the Jews where exiled out of the country, and the Romans renamed Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina in 135 A.D.
So the JEWS were out of the country, for the most part, until 476 A.D. They forgot that Prince Simon had ordered the Mount Zion lowered to ground level, because the ground was defiled, by the time they Returned to Jerusalem. They has a large group of senior RABBI's trying the figure out where Mount Zion was and the TEMPLE. They had 4 opinions, so they VOTED ON IT, and the chose the Wrong Mount. Had there been a record Kept, but the Romans destroyed almost everything. So a VOTE chose the Temple Mount, only because they HOPED the Piece of Wall that Remained, was, they Hoped, was the west wall of Temple; but recent discovers has found it should the west wall of Fortress Antonia. How do you tell the Jews that they have been Praying at the wrong wall ever since 476 A.D.
Is that Helpful ? ? ?
Isaiah 8:18 (HCSB)
18 Here I am with the children the LORD has given me to be signs and wonders in Israel from the LORD of Hosts who dwells on Mount Zion.
Jeremiah 31:6 (HCSB)
6 For there will be a day when watchmen will call out in the hill country of Ephraim, “Get up, let’s go up to Zion, to Yahweh our God!”
Psalm 20:2 (NCV)
2 May he send you help from his Temple and support you from Mount Zion.
Jeremiah 50:28 (ASV)
28 The voice of them that flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of Jehovah our God, the vengeance of his temple.
2 Samuel 6:16-17 (ASV)
16 And it was so, as the ark of Jehovah came into the city of David, that Michal the daughter of Saul looked out at the window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before Jehovah; and she despised him in her heart.
17 And they brought in the ark of Jehovah, and set it in its place, in the midst of the tent that David had pitched for it; and David offered burnt-offerings and peace-offerings before Jehovah.
Not at all, it is Fruit Inspection, and it is part of DISCERNMENT.
Matthew 7:1-2 (HCSB)
1 “Do not judge, so that you won’t be judged.
2 For with the judgment you use, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
In Mat you 7:1, Discernment is not JUDGING. That word Judging in the Greek it means to PASS SENTENCE UPON, as in a criminal trial.
Now had I said "You are going to hell because of that sin", THAT IS JUDGING. To say, "I do not see fruit, that is the evidence of whether you are Born Again", is Discernment.
Matthew 7:13-23 (HCSB)
13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the road is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who go through it.
14 How narrow is the gate and difficult the road that leads to life, and few find it.
15 “Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravaging wolves.
16 You’ll recognize them by their fruit. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
17 In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, but a bad tree produces bad fruit.
18 A good tree can’t produce bad fruit; neither can a bad tree produce good fruit.
19 Every tree that doesn’t produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 So you’ll recognize them by their fruit.
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord!’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but ⌊only⌋ the one who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name?’
23 Then I will announce to them, ‘I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!’
First of all, I want to point out the ‘I never knew you!' in the last VERSE. That is a REFERENCE to Knowledge of Knowing someone is Born again by the spiritual FRUIT he produces. And Jesus said TWICE five verses you’ll recognize them by their fruit. Also I want you to see both the MANY's are the same group of people, that HE found no spirit fruit in them. They think they are Christians, but sadly most are only non Born Again disciples (just followers for awhile). And only a FEW are truly Born Again.
Here is a list of Spiritual Fruit, that you can go by to discern if someone has been Born Again. They are Lifestyle spiritual Characteristics.
Galatians 5:22-23 (HCSB)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is {Agape} love {HIS LOVE poured into hearts or human spirit Rom. 5:5}T, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith,
23 gentleness, self-control. Against such things there is no law.
The kind of fruits whether a little or a lot that is evidence that someone has been born again.
NO FRUITS is evidence that they have never been born again, and most disciples will fall away, because they are not producing Fruit of the Spirit.
1 John 2:19 (HCSB)
19 They went out from us, but they did not belong to us; for if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. However, they went out so that it might be made clear that none of them belongs to us.
There is John using his Discerning Spiritual Gift. YES, I believe ALL SCRIPTURE IS INSPIRED BY GOD.
1 Corinthians 2:13-15 (NRSV)
13 And we speak of these things in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual things to those who are spiritual.
14 Those who are unspiritual do not receive the gifts of God's Spirit, for they are foolishness to them, and they are unable to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
15 Those who are spiritual discern all things, and they are themselves subject to no one else's scrutiny.
Also I can HIGHLY recommend the two videos posted by eternally-gratefull post #522 and #523, near the top of Page 27. I watch them both and there have lots of quotes from Historian and the BIBLE TOO, that are just Dynamite.
First of all, how can you see or discern fruit from a texting conversation? Anybody can talk the talk without walking the walk so in truth nobody on this sight can see if any of the folks on this or any other Christian chat site are truly saved. We can't look into the gateway to the soul. I.E the eyes and we can't observe each other's life style and without a person actually saying or admitting to a lifestyle that is contrary to a life style with Christ at the center, how is it that you can know only what God can see???
Mayor Pete claims to be a true Christian and has even written a version of the bible. But admits to being gay and lives a lifestyle that fits the life style of living a life of unrepented sin. By his actions we know that he is not saved but Dave-L hasn't shown us any sort of life style he might be living nor has he defended living a lifestyle of unrepented sin because why??? Because this is a texting conversation and so far I haven't seen any text that would make my believe he was anything else but a walking talking believer. I may disagree with him, he may be misguided about a doctrinal belief but a disagreement or being misguided in no way constitutes or gives me the right to judge his heart. Only God has that ability. You don't.
Matthew 7:13-23 were words spoken by Christ and the Father has given Christ the right and ability to truly know what the condition of the heart is of any human being and you are not Christ so the scriptures you have quoted do not apply to you. Only Christ has the ability to know wha6t is in a mans heart unless his lifestyle shows us what is in his heart.
Galatians 5:22-23
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is {Agape} love {HIS LOVE poured into hearts or human spirit Rom. 5:5}T, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith,
23 gentleness, self-control. Against such things there is no law.
So you quoted Galatians 5:22-23. Can you see the love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, goodness, and self control is Dave-l's heart????.
LOL No Way Hosae. Why??? Because you are not God and you do not have the ability to discern whether or not Dave-l has love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, goodness, and self control in his heart from a texting conversation because you are not God.
Thinking you have the abilities of God is foolishness and God see's your foolishness.
The temporal. Interesting archaeological stuff. Good for sight seekers. Makes a good museum trip. but in the end of the matter no, the things seen hold value in spiritual matters. We must be care how we hear.
2 Corinthians 4:1 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal
If we desire to please him not seen then we must put on the prescription given above.
1 Thessalonians 2:4 But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.
Are you saying the groom and bride are not the center of the gathering/rapture?
Ok
Not sure if you are born again.
If not then I apologize.
I normally address a unbeliever differently than a believer because some of the bride groom components are not expected to be ones "center" at all.