There WILL be a Rapture… Ready?

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what is rapture? move all Christians, in the time of great judgment, to a safe place? ...
transfer of pure souls from this world to heaven? .... actually move the Christian out of this dark world?
 

DavyP

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You can have the scriptures and still know NOTHING without the Holy Spirit. Only with the Holy Spirit do we even understand the scriptures.

One can preach all day what the scriptures say about the SIGNS and still know NOTHING, if they preach without the Holy Spirit.

WHO will give the understanding of the scriptures concerning the signs of the end times…. the scriptures or the Holy Spirit?
That's correct. Much of God's Word will not be properly understood without guidance by The Holy Spirit.

But who listens to God's Word 'as written' today, instead of listening to and heeding men's doctrines? The way I teach by The Holy Spirit is by covering God's Word as written, line upon line, which is not a popular method in the majority of Churches today. So when some read what I wrote, they find it meticulous and boring, thinking it is not what God's Word is teaching as written. Sorry, I don't teach by shouting, "Can I get an Amen, like some side show."

The leaders of Israel also found it boring with line upon line coverage of God's Word "... precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little...". (Isaiah 28:9-14).

Isa 28:13-14
13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little;
that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
14 Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.

Yet that precept upon precept, line upon line, type of Bible learning is how God made it in order to properly allow The Holy Spirit to give us understanding in His Word. That method is boring for many, which is why they are destined to suffer that part above in 'red'.
 

Omegatime

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#63
what is rapture? move all Christians, in the time of great judgment, to a safe place? ...
transfer of pure souls from this world to heaven? .... actually move the Christian out of this dark world?
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I don't think anyone doubts the rapture, only the timing
 

Lafftur

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Did the Holy Spirit reveal from scripture that the antichrist will be born in 2012? If so, please give chapter and verse.
Jesus Christ is The Word and the Holy Spirit reveals the understanding of The Word giving life to the hearer if they choose to have an ear to hear and a heart to believe what God is saying to them.

When God speaks to us individually, His Words do not contradict scripture, they expound and give clarity to the scripture.

God speaks plainly to His Beloved, not in parables.


In 2012, I simply asked God The Father, Jesus Christ The Son and The Holy Spirit, “What is going on? Why is everyone freaking out about planets aligning and the Mayan calendar ending in late December 2012? They say it’s the end of the world but it cannot be… there is still much that needs to happen before the end.”

Jesus Christ answered me plainly…

“It’s not the end of the world but, it’s like the end because it is the astrological sign of the birth of the antichrist which is the end.

Just as I had the Magi and the Bethlehem Star, the antichrist has the Mayan’s and the astrological sign of the alignment of the planets.

The false prophet and antichrist will follow almost the same script as John the Baptist and Me.

Their mothers will be cousins,
They will be born 6 months apart,

The antichrist is not born in Bethlehem, he is born in Syria… he is the Assyrian spoken of by Isaiah.”

1 1/2 years later, there were massive slaughters in Syria and we had the Syrian Refugee Crisis…. there were so many children slaughtered… this seemed to coincide with the slaughter of male children in Bethlehem by Herod.

Then, I said, “Lord, if this is really happening then the next event is when the antichrist boy is 12 years old… he’ll have to be about his father’s business… Satan will enter him…and it will be Christmas Day in 2024….”

I believe a great evil is coming on Christmas Day 2024, it will be bad for about 3 days, then calm down and will be quiet until 2042/43 when the false prophet and antichrist enter the public arena at 30 years of age. They will only have 3 1/2 years, then it’s over.
 

cv5

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#65
what is rapture? move all Christians, in the time of great judgment, to a safe place? ...
transfer of pure souls from this world to heaven? .... actually move the Christian out of this dark world?
9th step of the 12 step Jewish wedding ceremony protocol.
And yes it is absolutely bedrock ironclad biblical doctrine.
 

Nehemiah6

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what is rapture? move all Christians, in the time of great judgment, to a safe place? ...transfer of pure souls from this world to heaven? .... actually move the Christian out of this dark world?
And you have a problem with that?
 

TheDivineWatermark

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#67
Then, I said, “Lord, if this is really happening then the next event is when the antichrist boy is 12 years old… he’ll have to be about his father’s business… Satan will enter him…and it will be Christmas Day in 2024….”
My question would be:

--why was Judas (who is ALSO called "son of perdition" - Jn17:12 [comp. 2Th2:3 about the FUTURE one]) seemingly a fully grown adult when "Satan entered into him" per the following passages (rather than being a 12 year old too--I mean, if the "pattern" is to be consistent):

-- Jhn 13:27 - And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.

-- Luk 22:3 - Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.




Just seems a bit off kilter, to me. lol
 

ResidentAlien

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#68
Jesus Christ is The Word and the Holy Spirit reveals the understanding of The Word giving life to the hearer if they choose to have an ear to hear and a heart to believe what God is saying to them.

When God speaks to us individually, His Words do not contradict scripture, they expound and give clarity to the scripture.

God speaks plainly to His Beloved, not in parables.

In 2012, I simply asked God The Father, Jesus Christ The Son and The Holy Spirit, “What is going on? Why is everyone freaking out about planets aligning and the Mayan calendar ending in late December 2012? They say it’s the end of the world but it cannot be… there is still much that needs to happen before the end.”

Jesus Christ answered me plainly…

“It’s not the end of the world but, it’s like the end because it is the astrological sign of the birth of the antichrist which is the end.

Just as I had the Magi and the Bethlehem Star, the antichrist has the Mayan’s and the astrological sign of the alignment of the planets.

The false prophet and antichrist will follow almost the same script as John the Baptist and Me.

Their mothers will be cousins,
They will be born 6 months apart,


The antichrist is not born in Bethlehem, he is born in Syria… he is the Assyrian spoken of by Isaiah.”

1 1/2 years later, there were massive slaughters in Syria and we had the Syrian Refugee Crisis…. there were so many children slaughtered… this seemed to coincide with the slaughter of male children in Bethlehem by Herod.

Then, I said, “Lord, if this is really happening then the next event is when the antichrist boy is 12 years old… he’ll have to be about his father’s business… Satan will enter him…and it will be Christmas Day in 2024….”

I believe a great evil is coming on Christmas Day 2024, it will be bad for about 3 days, then calm down and will be quiet until 2042/43 when the false prophet and antichrist enter the public arena at 30 years of age. They will only have 3 1/2 years, then it’s over.
I don't see any scriptures here that suggest the antichrist will be born in 2012. So all your talk about the Holy Spirit illuminating scripture seems to be just that, talk. Your whole theory is based on the antichrist being born in 2012. If that can't be established in scripture, yours is just another fanciful theory.
 

Lafftur

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#69
My question would be:

--why was Judas (who is ALSO called "son of perdition" - Jn17:12 [comp. 2Th2:3 about the FUTURE one]) seemingly a fully grown adult when "Satan entered into him" per the following passages (rather than being a 12 year old too--I mean, if the "pattern" is to be consistent):

-- Jhn 13:27 - And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.

-- Luk 22:3 - Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.


Just seems a bit off kilter, to me. lol

Jesus Christ was 12 years old when He was in the Temple about His Father’s business…

Likewise the antichrist will be 12 years old when Satan enters him.

The false prophet and antichrist are following almost the same script as John the Baptist and Jesus Christ.
 

Lafftur

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#70
I don't see any scriptures here that suggest the antichrist will be born in 2012. So all your talk about the Holy Spirit illuminating scripture seems to be just that, talk. Your whole theory is based on the antichrist being born in 2012. If that can't be established in scripture, yours is just another fanciful theory.
Resident Alien,

Thank you for reading my post. I understand how what I am saying sounds like another fanciful theory and I completely understand why you would reject it because it is not plainly word for word written in the scriptures.

No argument here. :love:
 

ResidentAlien

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Resident Alien,

Thank you for reading my post. I understand how what I am saying sounds like another fanciful theory and I completely understand why you would reject it because it is not plainly word for word written in the scriptures.

No argument here. :love:
Yes, my argument is that you have no scriptural support. But in addition to that, you're the one who claimed in your post #58 that the Holy Spirit illuminates the scriptures. However, I think what you really mean is the Holy Spirit illuminates the scripture but also gives direct revelation, which seems to be what you're claiming about your special knowledge of the antichrist.