The Yoke of Christ?

[Soyeong]

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Christians do not associate with the supreme being by means of the
covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God per Exodus, Leviticus,
Numbers, and Deuteronomy, We associate with the supreme being by
means of a different covenant. Torah Christians have a seriously convoluted
concept of the new way that Christ set in motion for himself and for his
followers via his crucifixion and resurrection.
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I have not suggested that Christians should be under the Mosaic Covenant, but rather I have been speaking about the way to live under the New Covenant. Jesus did not establish the New Covenant in order to nullify anything that he spent his ministry teaching by word or by example or so that we could be free to have the same lawlessness to the Torah that caused the New Covenant to be needed in the first place, but rather the New Covenant still involves following the Torah (Jeremiah 31:33). In Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so the way to believe in what Jesus spent his ministry teaching by word and by example and in what he accomplished through the cross is by repenting and becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to the Torah while the way to reject him and everything that he accomplished is by returning to the lawlessness that he gave himself to redeem us from.

 

[UnoiAmarah]

The Garden might not have just one center point depending upon its shape, but the Bible is not a scientific textbook, so it is not suggesting that Adam did anything the math to calculate the exact center point of the Garden .

I was merely responding your comments post # 52, while I am not saying that the Bible was written solely as a scientific textbook yet it does teach the precepts which evolved into the scientific process. Genesis 1:1 even begins with a hypothesis. Genesis 1 even establishes the basic branches for the discipline of science. So to diminish the value of the knowledge of the physical world is to diminish the value of knowledge of the holy.

If you knew where the center of the garden was then you would have to be able to to distinguish between the between the tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil, however if they were both in the center of the garden then is possible that they were the same tree. Can you identify the fruit of either tree? So if symbolic then what were representing?

My point being, if you don't know, ask the LORD.

If someone said that they were in the middle of reading a book, then it would be incorrect to assume that they were saying that they have done the math to calculate the exact center of the book, there is only one word at that spot, and that the word that they are on. The word can also be understood to refer to a place of prominence or to what Eve was focused on.

True, and if that book someone was reading was the book of life then they would know why it wasn't the book of knowledge of good and evil.

 

[Soyeong]

I was merely responding your comments post # 52, while I am not saying that the Bible was written solely as a scientific textbook yet it does teach the precepts which evolved into the scientific process. Genesis 1:1 even begins with a hypothesis. Genesis 1 even establishes the basic branches for the discipline of science. So to diminish the value of the knowledge of the physical world is to diminish the value of knowledge of the holy.

If you knew where the center of the garden was then you would have to be able to to distinguish between the between the tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil, however if they were both in the center of the garden then is possible that they were the same tree. Can you identify the fruit of either tree? So if symbolic then what were representing?

My point being, if you don't know, ask the LORD.


True, and if that book someone was reading was the book of life then they would know why it wasn't the book of knowledge of good and evil.

I was not diminishing the value of scientific, but was speaking against interpreting the Bible with scientific precision. The middle of something can refer to a broad area that has plenty of room for both trees. In Proverb 3:1-7, we have a choice between leaning on our own understanding of right and wrong by doing what is right in our own eyes or trusting in God with all of our heart to correctly divide between right and wrong by obeying His law in all of our ways and He will make our way straight, which is the difference between the Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life (Proverbs 3:18).

 

[UnoiAmarah]

was speaking against interpreting the Bible with scientific precision.

So how does one rightly divide the word of truth with any less of precision than the discipline of science requires?
When you say precision you are referring to the quality, condition, or fact of being exact and accurate, right?

The middle of something can refer to a broad area that has plenty of room for both trees.

Of course being imaginary trees you can imagine that but the middle of something is a specific point, So if you have read the Book of Jasher then you know what it said about the sun stood in still the midst of heaven. So the further you are away from solar system then the closer the planets would appear to be, but there would still only be one center point.

But another need for precision when diving the word of truth, the term 'create' has a specific meaning in Genesis that is quite different than the meaning of associated with its common usage. The common usage of create means make something new, or invent something, but in Genesis the term create infers a divine act which brings something into existence which has never existed in either form or nature prior to be brought into existence, nor could have came into existence other than by the divine act which created it. It isn't taking something in existence and making it into a different form, that is described as being made in Genesis. By claiming that things made were created diminishes the divine act for those things created since making something out of something already in existence is something man can do. There are only three things in Genesis which are referred onto as being created.

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Gen 2:2-3

In Genesis 2:2 God rested on the seventh day from the because of the work he made and in Genesis 2:3, God sanctified the seventh day because because of the work which he had created.

In Proverb 3:1-7, we have a choice between leaning on our own understanding of right and wrong by doing what is right in our own eyes

I am not trying to preach to you, just explaining the reason that I feel that precision is needed when handling the law of truth, because they are the words of life.

by obeying His law in all of our ways and He will make our way straight, which is the difference between the Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life

But one last example, take the term "flood", in scriptures a flood can represent a deluge of water or a flood can represent a deluge of violence. The difference between the book of life and the book of knowledge of good and evil isn't the book, it is the same book, it is the teacher.