the world is run by fallen angels and demons, do not follow them into the pit seek the Lord.

[MarcoftheTruth]

Blue eyed people who are not following Jesus Christ and His doctrine are fallen angels.

Brown eyed people who are not following Jesus Christ and His doctrine are demons.

People claiming salvation through grace and Paul's doctrine are trying to climb the fence and will not enter the kingdom of God.

Jesus Christ, John the baptist and the 11 disciples showed us the way through faith in the Lord and His word.

There is no pre-tribulation rapture, only the elect are spared this is false doctrine pushed by churches for $$$ same as grace $$$.

Peter is not the rock the church is to be built on as catholic's believe it is through Jesus Christ and His doctrine alone He is the rock.

What is in a person's heart is known by their actions and lack of repentance, doctrine they follow, people they follow and also by the color of their children's eyes: blue of God, metalic blue of fallen angels, brown of the flesh/satan. Amount of darkness reveals how much darkness is in them.

All blue-eyed people not having blue eyed children are people who have been cut off from the Father and Jesus Christ.

Parable of the 10 virgins are: the wise - people who seek and follow the Lord and His doctrine, the foolish - those who steal light and knowledge from people who seek the Lord but are too lazy themselves.

 

[montana123]

Blue eyed people who are not following Jesus Christ and His doctrine are fallen angels.

Brown eyed people who are not following Jesus Christ and His doctrine are demons.

People claiming salvation through grace and Paul's doctrine are trying to climb the fence and will not enter the kingdom of God.

Jesus Christ, John the baptist and the 11 disciples showed us the way through faith in the Lord and His word.

There is no pre-tribulation rapture, only the elect are spared this is false doctrine pushed by churches for $$$ same as grace $$$.

Peter is not the rock the church is to be built on as catholic's believe it is through Jesus Christ and His doctrine alone He is the rock.

What is in a person's heart is known by their actions and lack of repentance, doctrine they follow, people they follow and also by the color of their children's eyes: blue of God, metalic blue of fallen angels, brown of the flesh/satan. Amount of darkness reveals how much darkness is in them.

All blue-eyed people not having blue eyed children are people who have been cut off from the Father and Jesus Christ.

Parable of the 10 virgins are: the wise - people who seek and follow the Lord and His doctrine, the foolish - those who steal light and knowledge from people who seek the Lord but are too lazy themselves.

I do not believe the eyes thing for it makes no difference what your eye color is which God said He is no respecter of persons, and what makes you to differ from another.

Blue eyed people without Christ are not fallen angels, and brown eyed people without Christ are not demons for they are different beings, and can never be both.

A person can be possessed by a devil but they are not a devil themselves.

When you say God's children have blue eyes, and brown eyes are of the flesh/Satan, are you saying that white people have the advantage, and the black people, and Asians, and others are cursed.

It sounds like white people that say the mark on Cain was black skin to say the black people are cursed.

It sounds like the KKK that thinks white people have an advantage, and the Mormon Church that believes white people have the advantage.

White people do not have the advantage for God is no respecter of persons, and what makes you to differ from another.

It kind of seems like the new age Christianity where they focus on the Europeans that they are evolving to be spiritual which is the 5th root race, 6th sub-race, of the next evolutionary step of humans.

Also a darker color eye does not mean a person has more darkness in them than a lighter color eye.

Eye color has nothing to do with someone being more evil or good than another the same as no body part determines that for God created humans with diversities, and no body part tells the story about a person whether good or bad unless they use that body part for good or bad, but the body part itself is not cursed.

Are you going to say if they have beady eyes they are a criminal, or if they are left handed they have the devil's hand which that was a superstition of the Catholic Church which my dad is left handed and my grandmother tried to get him to write right handed, and thought my dad would be rebellious because he had the curse of the left hand.

As if no person that is right handed rejected the Lord, and has not been in jail, and has not been rebellious against their parents.

Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Mat 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Here Jesus is exalting Peter which he was given the keys to heaven which he preached the first sermon to get the Church going.

I believe Jesus is saying Peter is the rock, and He will build His Church upon Him.

Jesus is the chief cornerstone of the Church so all the Church is built upon Christ.

Paul said that the saints are like a building being built upon each other in order that they are saved.

Which Peter is the first person added to the building built upon Jesus and then the saints in their order.

So I believe Jesus is saying that He is building the Church upon Peter who is the rock the first person added to the Church.

So all of the Church is built upon Peter the rock who received authority from Jesus and he is built upon Him.

Which Cephas means stone who is Peter.

 

[Cameron143]

God is in control of all things. History is under divine control. History is following a divine plan. History is following a divine timetable. History, true and relevant history, relates to redemption.
All things are held together under God's providential care. Demons are not in charge. They simply serve God's purposes in the present age.

 

[Artios1]

Peter is not the rock the church is to be built on as catholic's believe it is through Jesus Christ and His doctrine alone He is the rock.

That is about the only thing I can agree with from your post ....almost all of the rest of your post border's on the insane...

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Blue eyed people who are not following Jesus Christ and His doctrine are fallen angels.

Brown eyed people who are not following Jesus Christ and His doctrine are demons.

People claiming salvation through grace and Paul's doctrine are trying to climb the fence and will not enter the kingdom of God.

Jesus Christ, John the baptist and the 11 disciples showed us the way through faith in the Lord and His word.

There is no pre-tribulation rapture, only the elect are spared this is false doctrine pushed by churches for $$$ same as grace $$$.

Peter is not the rock the church is to be built on as catholic's believe it is through Jesus Christ and His doctrine alone He is the rock.

What is in a person's heart is known by their actions and lack of repentance, doctrine they follow, people they follow and also by the color of their children's eyes: blue of God, metalic blue of fallen angels, brown of the flesh/satan. Amount of darkness reveals how much darkness is in them.

All blue-eyed people not having blue eyed children are people who have been cut off from the Father and Jesus Christ.

Parable of the 10 virgins are: the wise - people who seek and follow the Lord and His doctrine, the foolish - those who steal light and knowledge from people who seek the Lord but are too lazy themselves.

Paul was an apostle he taught the same things Jesus did there’s no issue with his doctrine the issue is this

“Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:14-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

people aren’t really reading Paul they grab one liner verses and try to explain what he meant but they are piling it from his explainations so it gets distorted

paul was a disciple of Jesus

“Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭11:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and taught people who had already heard the gospel about the gospel

If we read Paul and don’t reject it he’s teaching the same doctrines Jesus did to people who already believed the gospel Jesus preached and sent out just didn’t understand much of it Paul’s a revelator of what Jesus said to the church he doesn’t change or remove anything Jesus taught in the gospel to his disciples

“But ye have not so learned Christ; if so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; ( repent )

and be renewed in the spirit of your mind; ( believe the gospel ) and that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

(heres where people tune out )

Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another. Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: neither give place to the devil. Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: and be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:20-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Because he uses the term grace people then remove his teachings also and warnings about sin but Paul’s doctrine is sound it’s just that we’re not supposed to ignore Jesus and only try to hear a few verses from Paul that distorts everything

aware mesnt to hear the gospel foret then study what Paul’s talkin about to better onderersnd how it works in u a by faith to bring us from sinners to children of God

 

[Pilgrimshope]

God is in control of all things. History is under divine control. History is following a divine plan. History is following a divine timetable. History, true and relevant history, relates to redemption.
All things are held together under God's providential care. Demons are not in charge. They simply serve God's purposes in the present age.

This is part of his plan tbough when Christ ascended to his throne in heaven Satan was cast out of heaven into earth where he then was given power over the saints and power to war with the church see revelation chapter 12

“And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. ( Jesus was born of Israel and then ascended to his throne in heaven ) where he rules heaven and earth . See Matthew 28:18-20 then when he arrives in heaven

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.

Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. …And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”( church )
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:5, 7, 9-10, 12, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

so now part of the plan is like a refiners fire tested in the fires our metal purifying those of Jerusalem and those surnames with them ( gentile chrich ) like a refiners fire or fullers soap see Malachi chapter 3 v 1-3

“And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:7-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬


And so the apostles aware of this warned the church of these things

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And called us to arms equipping us for battle of we believe

“Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. ( we’re at war with him )

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. ( we’re in an active struggle against the devil and his minions who lost thier place in heaven through rebellion against Christ )

Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:


praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:10-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we have tools and equipment to gear up with and a battle plan a shield and sword but we are in a battle against the darkness that fills the world and part of Gods plan is to test the purity of a man’s heart through trial and tribulations of this world

“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Little children, keep yourselves from idols. ( false images in our minds of God and not the image Jesus gave us in his gospel when he came to reveal himself before he entered heavens glory from which he had come into the world to save ) Amen.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:19-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

My daddy made me memorize this as a youngster I didn’t understand it then but do now and am glad he did it’s an awareness verse giving discernment

“For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Cameron143]

This is part of his plan tbough when Christ ascended to his throne in heaven Satan was cast out of heaven into earth where he then was given power over the saints and power to war with the church see revelation chapter 12

“And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. ( Jesus was born of Israel and then ascended to his throne in heaven ) where he rules heaven and earth . See Matthew 28:18-20 then when he arrives in heaven

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.

Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. …And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”( church )
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:5, 7, 9-10, 12, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

so now part of the plan is like a refiners fire tested in the fires our metal purifying those of Jerusalem and those surnames with them ( gentile chrich ) like a refiners fire or fullers soap see Malachi chapter 3 v 1-3

“And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:7-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬


And so the apostles aware of this warned the church of these things

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And called us to arms equipping us for battle of we believe

“Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. ( we’re at war with him )

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. ( we’re in an active struggle against the devil and his minions who lost thier place in heaven through rebellion against Christ )

Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:


praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:10-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we have tools and equipment to gear up with and a battle plan a shield and sword but we are in a battle against the darkness that fills the world and part of Gods plan is to test the purity of a man’s heart through trial and tribulations of this world

“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Little children, keep yourselves from idols. ( false images in our minds of God and not the image Jesus gave us in his gospel when he came to reveal himself before he entered heavens glory from which he had come into the world to save ) Amen.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:19-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

My daddy made me memorize this as a youngster I didn’t understand it then but do now and am glad he did it’s an awareness verse giving discernment

“For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I will build my church, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it...Jesus.
Sounds like victory to me.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I will build my church, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it...Jesus.
Sounds like victory to me.

Indeed but the rest is there also it’s 100 percent about hearing what’s there and believing. Not like the law where you take it as a list of rules but really listening to Jesus then we hear what he’s saying and we can believe it and the power in his words turn the lights on for us

“And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Same process here by his word in the gospel that commands and sustains all things

“For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That happens here when he speaks brother is all I’m saying hearing him who died for us is the key to life everlasting it’s faith

hes always speaking to believers of his word what you’ll never find in any letter is to reject the word the letters are written to those who accepted the word
that bears fruit in us

“for the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel; which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth: as ye also learned of Epaphras our dear fellowservant, who is for you a faithful minister of Christ;”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:5-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you know the word he’s speaking of
where grace is actually manifest brother all I’m saying is this

“And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:16-18‬ ‭

we want to do this forever and always but he will teach us to repent and enable us also if we do this

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s all I’m saying that’s how Gods work works in us when we don’t allow ourselves in this group

“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.( For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”( the gospel can change us )
‭‭John‬ ‭3:19-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

instead we want this look here how Paul is teaching what Jesus began teaching speaking from that already established word

“Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; and walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

( that’s light to shine on us if we don’t hide away from it )

For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.


But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭5:1-10, 13-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

jesus words are right and true and faithful even when he’s telling us we need to repent and hear him and follow . We’ll never know brother who’s “ pre destined “ unless we accept the words of God that’s what will determine it those who come into the light and don’t remain in the darkness

 

[Niki7]

Since my eyes are neither blue or brown, I will consider that I have passed muster

those who steal light and knowledge from people who seek the Lord but are too lazy themselves.

well you can try, but you cannot steal a person's relationship with Jesus.

just when you think you might have heard it all

 

[Niki7]

the world is run by fallen angels and demons

well the devil would like us to think that, but the truth is that

1The earth is the LORD’s, and the fullness thereof,
the world and all who dwell therein. Psalm 24

also,
do not follow them into the pit seek the Lord

It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. 11This Jesus is
‘the stone you builders rejected,
which has become the cornerstone.’a
12Salvation exists in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4

 

[barbaranow77]

there are teachings for a very large group of Christiane, who say that for daily spiritual results, to balance the psyche, and to ward off the demon, one should make everyday: stations of the cross, all 4 parts of the holy rosary, and divine mercy chaplet

 

[Sipsey]

there are teachings for a very large group of Christiane, who say that for daily spiritual results, to balance the psyche, and to ward off the demon, one should make everyday: stations of the cross, all 4 parts of the holy rosary, and divine mercy chaplet

A right thing done in the wrong way, is wrong.
A wrong thing done in the right way, is wrong.
A right thing has to be done in the right way, and that’s God’s way.

 

[seoulsearch]

All blue-eyed people not having blue eyed children are people who have been cut off from the Father and Jesus Christ.

As someone who is adopted and doesn't bear any kind of physical resemblance to either of my parents, including eye color, I find this intriguing.

I'm guessing you weren't thinking of such incidences as adoption (or maybe you were?), but do you know how dominant and recessive genes work regarding blue and brown eye colors?

I know only a few basics, but blue eyes are expressed through a recessive gene, while brown eyes are expressed through a dominant gene.

If a blue-eyed person (recessive) marries a brown-eyed person (dominant,) it is highly likely their children could have brown eyes.

How does this translate into being cut off by God?

 

[homwardbound]

Paul was an apostle he taught the same things Jesus did there’s no issue with his doctrine the issue is this

“Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:14-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

people aren’t really reading Paul they grab one liner verses and try to explain what he meant but they are piling it from his explainations so it gets distorted

paul was a disciple of Jesus

“Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭11:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and taught people who had already heard the gospel about the gospel

If we read Paul and don’t reject it he’s teaching the same doctrines Jesus did to people who already believed the gospel Jesus preached and sent out just didn’t understand much of it Paul’s a revelator of what Jesus said to the church he doesn’t change or remove anything Jesus taught in the gospel to his disciples

“But ye have not so learned Christ; if so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; ( repent )

and be renewed in the spirit of your mind; ( believe the gospel ) and that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

(heres where people tune out )

Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another. Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: neither give place to the devil. Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: and be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:20-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Because he uses the term grace people then remove his teachings also and warnings about sin but Paul’s doctrine is sound it’s just that we’re not supposed to ignore Jesus and only try to hear a few verses from Paul that distorts everything

aware mesnt to hear the gospel foret then study what Paul’s talkin about to better onderersnd how it works in u a by faith to bring us from sinners to children of God

I see this about Paul, who was Saul:
He, saw the risen Jesus on that road to Damascus. He was blinded, then healed and then went missing for fourteen years, before going to the Disciples and getting a handshake from them in fellowship with them. To go to the Gentiles.

What happened, for all those years before he went preaching in confidence of the freedom given him?

I see this: he was being taught new from the old man he was, under Law for the missing two years mentioned in Galatians

It is like this. He was in the Arabian desert. Me, using this analogy, to represent what happened then. being taught new.

There, he was in the Desert, and he saw a chalk board there, with an eraser and a piece of chalk on the chalk board.
He was asked from God do you see the chalk board? Answer, yes. Do you see what is written on that chalk board? Yes, it is my entire life from birth forward to right now in the present second.

Then God says, pick up that eraser, and erase that entire first life, from birth forward to right now in the present second.
Paul, does that. Then God says, pick up that piece of chalk and start writing as I tell you to write. Paul was trained by God, as we all are to be trained by God, not the self or anyone else anymore y'all.
Time to hear truth, that comes from God in you, through you, and for you too. Not of yourself attitude(s) or anyone else's. seek truth from God for you, that is next to you, living in you if you have asked God for that. If not ask please.


Galatians 1:11

Authorized (King James) Version

11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.


I see this, it is best for anyone reading this here, to read from Galatians 1 through Gal. 2. Thank you and ask God for you, to be taught new from God to you. To believe in the risen Jesus over the dead one, this I see now, presently. I was trying to imitate the historical Jesus, over the risen Jesus. There is a gigantic difference to me now and still am in process, learning new daily from God personally. How to just love all, as is done by Son on that cross for us all.

God will reveal truth to you too, as long as you believe God too, and are serious in a relationship, not the religiosity that is out here in this world today, even though, I personally find religion, as good, since Christ is preached from the pulpit, whether of sincerity or not, matters not. Seeing to be content in all things, good or bad that happen here on earth. God still knows what God allows and why. Ask, God yourself and one day you will hear than answer, if have not heard it yet, you will, thanks

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I see this about Paul, who was Saul:
He, saw the risen Jesus on that road to Damascus. He was blinded, then healed and then went missing for fourteen years, before going to the Disciples and getting a handshake from them in fellowship with them. To go to the Gentiles.

What happened, for all those years before he went preaching in confidence of the freedom given him?

I see this: he was being taught new from the old man he was, under Law for the missing two years mentioned in Galatians

It is like this. He was in the Arabian desert. Me, using this analogy, to represent what happened then. being taught new.

There, he was in the Desert, and he saw a chalk board there, with an eraser and a piece of chalk on the chalk board.
He was asked from God do you see the chalk board? Answer, yes. Do you see what is written on that chalk board? Yes, it is my entire life from birth forward to right now in the present second.

Then God says, pick up that eraser, and erase that entire first life, from birth forward to right now in the present second.
Paul, does that. Then God says, pick up that piece of chalk and start writing as I tell you to write. Paul was trained by God, as we all are to be trained by God, not the self or anyone else anymore y'all.
Time to hear truth, that comes from God in you, through you, and for you too. Not of yourself attitude(s) or anyone else's. seek truth from God for you, that is next to you, living in you if you have asked God for that. If not ask please.


Galatians 1:11

Authorized (King James) Version

11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.


I see this, it is best for anyone reading this here, to read from Galatians 1 through Gal. 2. Thank you and ask God for you, to be taught new from God to you. To believe in the risen Jesus over the dead one, this I see now, presently. I was trying to imitate the historical Jesus, over the risen Jesus. There is a gigantic difference to me now and still am in process, learning new daily from God personally. How to just love all, as is done by Son on that cross for us all.

God will reveal truth to you too, as long as you believe God too, and are serious in a relationship, not the religiosity that is out here in this world today, even though, I personally find religion, as good, since Christ is preached from the pulpit, whether of sincerity or not, matters not. Seeing to be content in all things, good or bad that happen here on earth. God still knows what God allows and why. Ask, God yourself and one day you will hear than answer, if have not heard it yet, you will, thanks

Im not following you here Paul never disappeared fourteen years my friend tbat I’m aware of anywho

It tells us how he was converted in acts

“And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: and he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus. And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink. And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord. And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth, and hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight. Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem: and here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name. But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: for I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake. And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost. And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized. And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus. And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God. But all that heard him were amazed, and said; Is not this he that destroyed them which called on this name in Jerusalem, and came hither for that intent, that he might bring them bound unto the chief priests? But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ. And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him: but their laying await was known of Saul. And they watched the gates day and night to kill him. Then the disciples took him by night, and let him down by the wall in a basket. And when Saul was come to Jerusalem, he assayed to join himself to the disciples: but they were all afraid of him, and believed not that he was a disciple. But Barnabas took him, and brought him to the apostles, and declared unto them how he had seen the Lord in the way, and that he had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus. And he was with them coming in and going out at Jerusalem. Which when the brethren knew, they brought him down to Cæsarea, and sent him forth to Tarsus. Then had the churches rest throughout all Judæa and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭9:3-4, 6, 8-28, 30-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

theres no mention of him vanishing fourteen years but rather being converted to Christianity from Judaism Getting baptized and then preaching the gospel of Jesus the Christ the son of God and edifying the church then as you follow acts you sort of are following Paul a lot and his ministry in the chrich but also the other apostles

Luke was imprisoned with Paul when he wrote the acts of the apostles that’s why Paul’s stories are most prevelant Luke was one of Paul’s companions in his ministry and the only early church historian we have in the Bible the acts is an ordered account of how the word was spread and the effects it had as well as the trials and tribulations of the apostles and early church

Paul seems a main character because Luke was with him in prison writing the acts before Paul’s execution that’s why it ends so abruptly as Paul’s imprisoned in rome he was executed along with Luke

were you talking about Paul sayong he knew a man fourteen years ago who was caught up to the third heaven ?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Im not following you here Paul never disappeared fourteen years my friend tbat I’m aware of anywho

It tells us how he was converted in acts

“And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: and he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus. And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink. And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord. And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth, and hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight. Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem: and here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name. But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: for I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake. And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost. And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized. And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus. And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God. But all that heard him were amazed, and said; Is not this he that destroyed them which called on this name in Jerusalem, and came hither for that intent, that he might bring them bound unto the chief priests? But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ. And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him: but their laying await was known of Saul. And they watched the gates day and night to kill him. Then the disciples took him by night, and let him down by the wall in a basket. And when Saul was come to Jerusalem, he assayed to join himself to the disciples: but they were all afraid of him, and believed not that he was a disciple. But Barnabas took him, and brought him to the apostles, and declared unto them how he had seen the Lord in the way, and that he had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus. And he was with them coming in and going out at Jerusalem. Which when the brethren knew, they brought him down to Cæsarea, and sent him forth to Tarsus. Then had the churches rest throughout all Judæa and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭9:3-4, 6, 8-28, 30-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

theres no mention of him vanishing fourteen years but rather being converted to Christianity from Judaism Getting baptized and then preaching the gospel of Jesus the Christ the son of God and edifying the church then as you follow acts you sort of are following Paul a lot and his ministry in the chrich but also the other apostles

Luke was imprisoned with Paul when he wrote the acts of the apostles that’s why Paul’s stories are most prevelant Luke was one of Paul’s companions in his ministry and the only early church historian we have in the Bible the acts is an ordered account of how the word was spread and the effects it had as well as the trials and tribulations of the apostles and early church

Paul seems a main character because Luke was with him in prison writing the acts before Paul’s execution that’s why it ends so abruptly as Paul’s imprisoned in rome he was executed along with Luke

were you talking about Paul sayong he knew a man fourteen years ago who was caught up to the third heaven ?

Your talking about this

“But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, to reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus. Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days. But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother. Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not. Afterwards I came into the regions of Syria and Cilicia; and was unknown by face unto the churches of Judæa which were in Christ: but they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed. And they glorified God in me.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1:15-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also. And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭2:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Ot seems maybe he fled after his conversion when they were trying to kill him ? I had imagined you were saying he literally disappeared read your post wrong I dont really know if we look at acts and that also maybe we can figure it out ? Both are true I’m gonna look to see if there’s anything else regarding this

 

[Niki7]

As someone who is adopted and doesn't bear any kind of physical resemblance to either of my parents, including eye color, I find this intriguing.

I'm guessing you weren't thinking of such incidences as adoption (or maybe you were?), but do you know how dominant and recessive genes work regarding blue and brown eye colors?

I know only a few basics, but blue eyes are expressed through a recessive gene, while brown eyes are expressed through a dominant gene.

If a blue-eyed person (recessive) marries a brown-eyed person (dominant,) it is highly likely their children could have brown eyes.

How does this translate into being cut off by God?

it gets even more 'intriguing ' . I have one brown eyed parent and one with very blue eyes. I have a different eye color altogether, classified as 'rare'. My brother got the brown eyes.

Here is some idea of how many eye colors there are...even more actually...but the basic is 6 colors.

all the variations are really kind of remarkable

 

[Niki7]

there are teachings for a very large group of Christiane, who say that for daily spiritual results, to balance the psyche, and to ward off the demon, one should make everyday: stations of the cross, all 4 parts of the holy rosary, and divine mercy chaplet

for daily spiritual results...works at night also...accept salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ and follow Him. Jesus has overcome every temptation or evil that the devil can cook up. What you suggest is not found in the Bible and as long as we are going to
believe in God, then it makes sense to read, study and believe what the Bible has to say about God.

 

[homwardbound]

Im not following you here Paul never disappeared fourteen years my friend tbat I’m aware of anywho

It tells us how he was converted in acts

“And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: and he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus. And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink. And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord. And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth, and hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight. Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem: and here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name. But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: for I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake. And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost. And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized. And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus. And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God. But all that heard him were amazed, and said; Is not this he that destroyed them which called on this name in Jerusalem, and came hither for that intent, that he might bring them bound unto the chief priests? But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ. And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him: but their laying await was known of Saul. And they watched the gates day and night to kill him. Then the disciples took him by night, and let him down by the wall in a basket. And when Saul was come to Jerusalem, he assayed to join himself to the disciples: but they were all afraid of him, and believed not that he was a disciple. But Barnabas took him, and brought him to the apostles, and declared unto them how he had seen the Lord in the way, and that he had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus. And he was with them coming in and going out at Jerusalem. Which when the brethren knew, they brought him down to Cæsarea, and sent him forth to Tarsus. Then had the churches rest throughout all Judæa and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭9:3-4, 6, 8-28, 30-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

theres no mention of him vanishing fourteen years but rather being converted to Christianity from Judaism Getting baptized and then preaching the gospel of Jesus the Christ the son of God and edifying the church then as you follow acts you sort of are following Paul a lot and his ministry in the chrich but also the other apostles

Luke was imprisoned with Paul when he wrote the acts of the apostles that’s why Paul’s stories are most prevelant Luke was one of Paul’s companions in his ministry and the only early church historian we have in the Bible the acts is an ordered account of how the word was spread and the effects it had as well as the trials and tribulations of the apostles and early church

Paul seems a main character because Luke was with him in prison writing the acts before Paul’s execution that’s why it ends so abruptly as Paul’s imprisoned in rome he was executed along with Luke

were you talking about Paul sayong he knew a man fourteen years ago who was caught up to the third heaven ?

Yeah, he was not missing for fourteen years. It was him not going to flesh and blood ( the Disciples) for fourteen years. He was missing in the Arabian desert for two years, where he got taught new from God and not from flesh and blood. I cannot find where it states gone for two years, I had read that in the past, regardless, was gone and did not go to the disciples for fourteen years. Did not go to flesh and blood for any counsel

Galatians 1:17
I didn’t go up to Jerusalem to consult with those who were apostles before I was. No, I went away into the deserts of Arabia and then came back to the city of Damascus.

Might not have been for two years, could have been longer or shorter, it was fourteen years before going to flesh and blood though.

The Bible says so little about those fourteen years that they are often referred to as the “missing years” in Paul’s life as a Christian.

However, I have read in past, that Paul went missing for two years in the Arabian desert. Of coarse cannot find it now. yet he went there and then returned. Which gives the story given me from God to see new in trust to God alone, as I wrote allegorized in the prior post
Thanks, I see to not be too literal, and trust God to fill in gaps that free people from their troubles under Law, as he did that for Paul to write to us the freedom given as explained in Phil 3 to me, thanks hope to have helped

 

[homwardbound]

Your talking about this

“But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, to reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus. Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days. But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother. Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not. Afterwards I came into the regions of Syria and Cilicia; and was unknown by face unto the churches of Judæa which were in Christ: but they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed. And they glorified God in me.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1:15-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also. And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭2:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Ot seems maybe he fled after his conversion when they were trying to kill him ? I had imagined you were saying he literally disappeared read your post wrong I dont really know if we look at acts and that also maybe we can figure it out ? Both are true I’m gonna look to see if there’s anything else regarding this

Yes, and thank you for re-reading it.
My point to all this, that became Paul is:
To learn truth from God Father, who still speaks to his children in them and through them, the truth in love to us all. The same as Son did for us at that cross for us to now cross over with him in God's Spirit and Truth of discerning truth over the many mis interpreted errors of the Bible interpretations.
People sitting in Moses's seat for their self gain of the people as Christ said was happening them while alive in the flesh then. And said that will be the only reward those get, that do that, sit in Moses's seat as if know, with the wrong motives.
Hope to have helped brother