The word of God is not a secret code that needs unlocked.
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EVERYTHING God and Jesus is quoted as saying (with very few notable exceptions) is poetry and said in a poetic fashion.
It's not an argument....it's just what it is.
But you have to speak Hebrew to get the poetry. All of the modern forms of poetry were first found in scriptures....including Shakespeare's sonnets, French poetry, Spanish poetry, and Middle Eastern poetry.
All are recorded in Scriptures....thousands of years before they were "recreated" today.
It's not an argument....it's just what it is.
But you have to speak Hebrew to get the poetry. All of the modern forms of poetry were first found in scriptures....including Shakespeare's sonnets, French poetry, Spanish poetry, and Middle Eastern poetry.
All are recorded in Scriptures....thousands of years before they were "recreated" today.
Well yes,
In those days ONLY Levites were allowed to "handle" scriptures. In order to be Barmitzvah-ed you were to recite the entire 5 books of Moses without flaws. Being poetry was obviously helpful.
But basically you could write your own copy of scriptures but not give them anyone else. You also were not allowed to recite the scriptures to anyone else either....especially a Gentile. The poetic nature helped with the poetry being an earworm.
In those days ONLY Levites were allowed to "handle" scriptures. In order to be Barmitzvah-ed you were to recite the entire 5 books of Moses without flaws. Being poetry was obviously helpful.
But basically you could write your own copy of scriptures but not give them anyone else. You also were not allowed to recite the scriptures to anyone else either....especially a Gentile. The poetic nature helped with the poetry being an earworm.
At my Bar Mitzvah I read from what is called a "Haftarah.."
Far from the entire 5 books of the Moses.
That could mean Saturday morning service would have lasted all day if there were several Bar Mitzvah candidates for that day.
He was to recite "all the five books?" Sounds like uninformed Gentile folk lore to me.
The bar mitzvah ceremony is much shorter than what that could not allow for.
I was bar mitzvah'd. Never seen what you described, unless it takes place with Hassidic Jews.
Far from the entire 5 books of the Moses.
That could mean Saturday morning service would have lasted all day if there were several Bar Mitzvah candidates for that day.
He was to recite "all the five books?" Sounds like uninformed Gentile folk lore to me.
The bar mitzvah ceremony is much shorter than what that could not allow for.
I was bar mitzvah'd. Never seen what you described, unless it takes place with Hassidic Jews.
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It's an edumacated guess from my studies. Every time I turn around I'm chest deep in more Hebrew poetry. (I do a lot of OT studies)
And in response to your latest reply....
In order to understand scriptures we must take an originalist point of view. The writer had a specific known audience he wrote to for them to understand the meanings he was conveying. Where we don't personally know the author or the audience we can know some things about culture, history, geography, anthropology and Topography. So we try to understand as a person that would be in receipt of the letter in the time period it was written.
And in response to your latest reply....
In order to understand scriptures we must take an originalist point of view. The writer had a specific known audience he wrote to for them to understand the meanings he was conveying. Where we don't personally know the author or the audience we can know some things about culture, history, geography, anthropology and Topography. So we try to understand as a person that would be in receipt of the letter in the time period it was written.
That is called "Isagogics."
This pastor studied eight hours a day, taught 6 days a week, and always staying with that discipline having become his second nature.
R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries
I have been trying to let others know about him. It seems, if the Spirit is not guiding them to do so? They will not want.
This pastor studied eight hours a day, taught 6 days a week, and always staying with that discipline having become his second nature.
R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries
I have been trying to let others know about him. It seems, if the Spirit is not guiding them to do so? They will not want.
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The KJV bible is not some kind of modern mind control agent - it has been the most recognized and accepted English translation of the Word of God for the past four centuries. And, if you want the best-and-most true-to-life ("reality") bible translation there is in existence (in the English language) - then the KJV is the one to have! You cannot "do better" than the KJV where proper translation of bible truth is concerned - with the only possible exceptions being a few of the bibles that preceded it.
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It only makes sense...
Satan is going to promote a translation that will not have us to understand properly what the Hebrew and Greek
contains and intends to express, yet at the same time makes the reader feel convinced that he has all that is needed.
Ancient men used to bow down to idols and be moved by the religious feelings that such an act will cause them to experience.
Same applies to how reading a certain translation can cause such a feeling in those so inclined...
grace and peace .................
Satan is going to promote a translation that will not have us to understand properly what the Hebrew and Greek
contains and intends to express, yet at the same time makes the reader feel convinced that he has all that is needed.
Ancient men used to bow down to idols and be moved by the religious feelings that such an act will cause them to experience.
Same applies to how reading a certain translation can cause such a feeling in those so inclined...
grace and peace .................