The will of God

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Jesus sets us FREE, gloriously free. When He healed Bartimeus He said "go thy way, thy faith hath made thee whole and Bartimeus followed Him in the way"

That is generally the way of it.
I believe we have freedom in Christ.--not debatable. I believe also that all the spiritual blessings we receive from God come through faith..... not debatable also. However, we must live our faith as believers and that is where the road becomes narrow.
 

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I believe we have freedom in Christ.--not debatable. I believe also that all the spiritual blessings we receive from God come through faith..... not debatable also. However, we must live our faith as believers and that is where the road becomes narrow.
Your 'However ' is clashing with this 'free gift 'thing .
 

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I think it all depends on what you mean by paying for it. Sometimes the meanings we attach to words may differ.
a free gift is nullified if somehow we pay for it . Like if someone gives you a gift on your birthday but then you say " oh that's nice, heres a pound for it " .Now its not a gift.
 
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a free gift is nullified if somehow we pay for it . Like if someone gives you a gift on your birthday but then you say " oh that's nice, heres a pound for it " .Now its not a gift.
I think you are painting a different picture with this scenario.

When the scripture says, if you are in the light, walk in the light. if you live in the Spirit, walk in the Spirit, it recognises the fact that doing the walk does not remove the fact that salvation is a free gift.
 
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Jesus showed us that the true Jew is one who does the will of God....we are commanded to walk as Jesus did....and that is alone....from Him do we learn and follow all instruction....unto death
The Will of God, The Deity is to have the relationship he designed with man in The BEGGINInG before the fall.

after the fall, God The Deity manifested in flesh, The Second person in the Trinity to die on the cross as a man so that men could be reconciled to God through Spiritual Adoption as the son's of God.

As far as God is concerned, the flesh and the earth are going to pass away so only what matter's is the relationship you have with God, Through Jesus.

Becoming a part of God's family, is as Jesus Said. He is the True vine, and men are the Branch's. To be Spiritually Regenerated, which is to receive again The Spirit of God that was Lost during the fall, is to pass from death into Life.

So, as far as earthly Desire's and worldly Desire's, those are associated with lust's the result of a fallen nature.

God also Created man for his Pleasure, Human being's are as much expected to be servant's as the angel's. It however does not border or a lack of exhibiting or expressing yourself through The Spirit, which Charecteristic's of Peace Love and Joy, However, I'm not sure how to counsel you, only The Word Of Jesus Christ Can.

I barely understand what sin is, so, Your Going to have to Read The Word For Clarification and ask Yahweh For His Wisdom.
 

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I think you are painting a different picture with this scenario.

When the scripture says, if you are in the light, walk in the light. if you live in the Spirit, walk in the Spirit, it recognises the fact that doing the walk does not remove the fact that salvation is a free gift.
It does when some either equate doing with having or doing with keeping salvation.
 

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I do not think we should encourage these kind of questions. I believe that when we stay in the path -- i.e, stay in the light and walk in the light, the Holy Spirit will guide us aright. It is okay to desire to be filled with the knowledge of God's will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding. ( I do not think we should reduce this desire to such specific questions as in your post or like questions. We should focus on the overall picture of the kingdom and the things concerning us will fall into place.
Hello Infinitekhanol, I agree with you, we need to be Theocentric as we seek His will for our lives in the midst of our ongoing/growing relationship with Him (and stop looking for quick/easy answers from Him). That said, I believe that the most popular/common question that is asked of our pastors by their congregants, "how can I know the will of God for my life?", will, no doubt, continue to be asked ;)

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4 Delight yourself in the Lord, and He will give you the desires of your heart.

 

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I believe we have freedom in Christ.--not debatable. I believe also that all the spiritual blessings we receive from God come through faith..... not debatable also. However, we must live our faith as believers and that is where the road becomes narrow.
Jesus asked the disciples "will you also go away?" and Peter answered "where shall we go? we've given up everything"

There is only one thing that binds us to the Lord, He drew us to Himself with cords of love and that's how He holds us. These things cannot be legislated for.
 

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Narrow is the door...and few there will be who will find....
it’s a road very few want to walk...hence all the worlds man made rules and institutions...all this the Lord warned us about...
 
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Jesus asked the disciples "will you also go away?" and Peter answered "where shall we go? we've given up everything"

There is only one thing that binds us to the Lord, He drew us to Himself with cords of love and that's how He holds us. These things cannot be legislated for.
Agreed. Love cannot be legislated. The more reason we have freedom in Christ Jesus for in him love consists.

Love of God and his creatures happens to be the first commandment of the 10 Commandments and through love all the others are fulfilled. Those others still " bind" us but we must understand them from Christ"s point of view and not from the narrow point of view of the Pharisees and Sadducees.

There is a huge difference between the 10 Commandments of the Law and the law of commandments contained in the ordinances and statutes, with the later showing the works of the law that profit us nothing.
 
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Hello Infinitekhanol, I agree with you, we need to be Theocentric as we seek His will for our lives in the midst of our ongoing/growing relationship with Him (and stop looking for quick/easy answers from Him). That said, I believe that the most popular/common question that is asked of our pastors by their congregants, "how can I know the will of God for my life?", will, no doubt, continue to be asked ;)

~Deut

Psalm 37
4 Delight yourself in the Lord, and He will give you the desires of your heart.
It then boils down to the Pastors to redirect their thoughts aright. And for us all to chip in our contributions when we hear them, --- whenever possible.
 
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The will of God is determined by what his word says about you in your position in life, and society. For me that is husband, father, employee, neighbor, etc.
 

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Jesus asked the disciples "will you also go away?" and Peter
answered "where shall we go? we've given up everything"

There is only one thing that binds us to the Lord, He drew us to Himself with
cords of love and that's how He holds us. These things cannot be legislated for.
John 6:66 From that time on many of His disciples turned back and no longer walked with Him.
67 So Jesus asked the Twelve, “Do you want to leave too?” 68 Simon Peter replied, “Lord, to whom
would we go? You have the words of eternal life.
69 We believe and know that You are the Holy One of God.”

:)
 

throughfaith

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Agreed. But it could also boil down to the fact that your own interpretation of what is being communicated is not correct. It could go either ways.
We,d have to see if this played out consistently as we looked at scripture . I've demonstrated that many times where some go wrong with misapplied scripture.