The US Joins WW3

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I'm curious what in the world we will do with "extra heavy crude oil" which is the most expensive type oil to refine because of how difficult the process is. Asphalt, heavy fuel oil, plastics? Why repair oil refineries fallen into disrepair because not many people want to buy it instead of crude oil that's cheaper to refine?
 
The question I think people should really be asking about oil is this. In the 1970s we had an oil crisis when Jimmy Carter was president and we were told that the oil was running out. we were told a theory called "Peak Oil". Now from 1920 to 1970s we were using far less oil than in the next fifty years. Plastics and fertilizers and all the vehicles around the world all greatly increased the consumption of oil and yet we have still not run out. Why?

People have been taught that oil is a fossil fuel, and as such it should run out. We were also told that once we consumed 1/3 of the oil that is underground we would hit a crisis. And yet, no crisis.

What we have learned since the 1970s is that oil is not a fossil fuel. Oil wells that were shut for a decade were then found to have "recharged". Oil is simply part of the carbon cycle. The more oil we burned the more plants grew and that includes the algae and other forms of plant life in the ocean. When this dies and falls to the ocean floor it moves along a conveyor belt due to plate tectonics. When it is forced beneath another continent it is cooked and becomes oil.

Now it is possible that they didn't understand this when they taught that it was a fossil fuel and was running out. OK, but now that they do understand this why haven't they fixed that misunderstanding?
 
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This is why I have always rejected the idea that China would take control of Taiwan and perhaps even replace the US as the lone superpower.


As long as China was willing to play the role of Robin to the US's Batman things were fine. But what I knew from living in Taiwan for about ten years is this.

1. The people of Taiwan would fight rather than be taken over by China. They saw what happened to Hong Kong, they see through all the lies and deceit of the CCP, they know first hand that their life is much better in Taiwan than it is for their relatives in China.

2. The situation in mainland China is precarious. Taiwan and the US understand how to pull the various strings to cause chaos and civil war in China.

3. Much of what China builds to show off to others is like a Hollywood set. You discover everything is built for show, but is fake and phony. For example, the concrete is not up to standard and falls apart. The steel is not up to standard or even non existent. The fire sprinklers are not hooked up. There is no sewer system, etc. Now this includes military contracts. Bribery, kickbacks, and not building things to spec are standard practice in China. So they may have a whole bunch of ships and it may look overwhelming, but the weapons and ships that Taiwan, Japan and the US have actually work. They are much more effective and will sink these Chinese weapons systems in no time flat.

Now we are clearly at war. China shuts off the exports of strategic minerals to the US, the US seizes oil tankers headed for China, and shuts down exports from Venezuela to China. All of this at the same time China surrounds Taiwan in a "naval drill".

I say all this because what we are seeing happen now in China is what I always knew would be the response if China tried to attack Taiwan or the US.
 
The question I think people should really be asking about oil is this. In the 1970s we had an oil crisis when Jimmy Carter was president and we were told that the oil was running out. we were told a theory called "Peak Oil". Now from 1920 to 1970s we were using far less oil than in the next fifty years. Plastics and fertilizers and all the vehicles around the world all greatly increased the consumption of oil and yet we have still not run out. Why?

People have been taught that oil is a fossil fuel, and as such it should run out. We were also told that once we consumed 1/3 of the oil that is underground we would hit a crisis. And yet, no crisis.

What we have learned since the 1970s is that oil is not a fossil fuel. Oil wells that were shut for a decade were then found to have "recharged". Oil is simply part of the carbon cycle. The more oil we burned the more plants grew and that includes the algae and other forms of plant life in the ocean. When this dies and falls to the ocean floor it moves along a conveyor belt due to plate tectonics. When it is forced beneath another continent it is cooked and becomes oil.

Now it is possible that they didn't understand this when they taught that it was a fossil fuel and was running out. OK, but now that they do understand this why haven't they fixed that misunderstanding?

If the big oil companies in the US go to Venezuela and invest hundreds of billions of dollars in Venezuelan refineries and the connected businesses that are in disrepair and help "their" economy by hiring cheap labor "there", then it advances the same problem that outsourcing, production,manufacturing ect. has already done to the US. Using cheap labor in nations to manufacture cars parts,TV's, Cell phones and thousands of other goods and products has already cost the citizens of the US jobs and is crumbling our economy. If outsourcing manufacturing jobs to China is bad for the US jobs, And outsourcing production to Mexico's companies has been bad for the US jobs then outsourcing US oil production will do the same thing to the oil industry in the US. Your point might make good sense if we were thinking "America First" and drilling here in the US and the employees were US citizens but not if those jobs and businesses are in another nation.
 
If the big oil companies in the US go to Venezuela and invest hundreds of billions of dollars in Venezuelan refineries and the connected businesses that are in disrepair and help "their" economy by hiring cheap labor "there", then it advances the same problem that outsourcing, production,manufacturing ect. has already done to the US. Using cheap labor in nations to manufacture cars parts,TV's, Cell phones and thousands of other goods and products has already cost the citizens of the US jobs and is crumbling our economy. If outsourcing manufacturing jobs to China is bad for the US jobs, And outsourcing production to Mexico's companies has been bad for the US jobs then outsourcing US oil production will do the same thing to the oil industry in the US. Your point might make good sense if we were thinking "America First" and drilling here in the US and the employees were US citizens but not if those jobs and businesses are in another nation.
The appeal to oil companies is that they are not hamstrung by US EPA laws. However they don't trust the Venezuelan government which would nationalize their investment.

Also you can argue all you want about how good this will be for people in Venezuela, that is only window dressing, the motive is how good this will be for US economy and US war machine.
 
Heavy and sour oil isn't much good for F-76 or JP-5-8 fuels for DDG's and war birds.
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It is very hard to get accurate information about the geo political situation however I think we can safely assume the following things are true:

1. China is threatening Taiwan

2. Iran is collapsing into civil war

3. The US is controlling Venezuela

4. Ukraine is losing to Russia, but Russia will lose to NATO.

5. So on multiple fronts China, Russia and Iran are in danger of losing their power.

Meanwhile there is a global move to BRICS by at least 40% of the world's GDP

and US debt is becoming unserviceable.

I would liken this to a condemned house. I wouldn't live there, but who knows, it could take a year before house actually collapses.
 

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1,250% increase in Pizza orders at the Pentagon by Poppa Johns. Indicator that we are going to war.
 
1,250% increase in Pizza orders at the Pentagon by Poppa Johns. Indicator that we are going to war.
The "Pentagon pizza indicator" or "Pizza Meter" is a popular, informal theory suggesting that spikes in pizza orders to the Pentagon and nearby government buildings signal impending major military action or international crises, stemming from anecdotes where increased late-night food orders coincided with events like the Gulf War and Panama invasion, though it's more internet folklore and anecdotal observation than actual intelligence, notes Wikipedia.
How it (allegedly) works:

  • Increased Orders: More pizza deliveries to the Pentagon complex or nearby areas (like the CIA or White House) indicate intense, long hours being worked by defense personnel.
  • Activity Spike: This rush of activity supposedly precedes significant military deployments or escalations, as personnel work late preparing for major operations.
Origins & Anecdotes:
  • Cold War Roots: Soviet intelligence reportedly once looked for unusual activity, including pizza deliveries, around U.S. facilities.
  • Gulf War (1991): A Domino's franchise owner noted a surge in orders to government buildings before the war, popularizing the idea.
  • Panama Invasion (1989): Pizza deliveries reportedly doubled before the U.S. invasion.
 
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sad to see all this stuff happening.

if we had not had a open border for so long, some of this might not be happening..
She was a paid protester. But she had taken it to the extreme. I guess her employer would have had paid her more that is if she attacked an agent.

Everything that is going on has been manufactured from USAID funds or Qatari

But the officer still can shoot at her that is if he thinks that she is a threat to him or the public that he has the right to stop her from endangering other people's lives

She made her living as a paid protester & was from Colorado.
She was a paid protester

ICE protesters in front of the Bishop Henry Whipple Federal building near Minneapolis today. BREAKING NEWS: they are paid!! Tune in to the
Paid protesters

 

A great little video about our aspirations to acquire and develop Greenland as well as a little reference and history about the forward-thinking genius of William Seward.