The Sound of Freedom

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ZNP

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10 minutes in this turns to the movie Sound of Freedom


*I'M PISSED! CANDACE OWENS TELLS BLACK PEOPLE THAT WHITE PEOPLE DIDN'T INVENT SLAVERY!
 

MsMediator

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I thought it was very realistic, no idea what they are referring to.
They were saying most of child trafficking in the U.S. isn't this obvious, bad guys grabbing/kidnapping kids. Reality is many victiims are being lured by "good" people like boyfriends and some victims don't even know they are being trafficked.
 

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They were saying most of child trafficking in the U.S. isn't this obvious, bad guys grabbing/kidnapping kids. Reality is many victiims are being lured by "good" people like boyfriends and some victims don't even know they are being trafficked.
This movie does not portray a child being kidnapped in the US, almost the entire movie is held in latin America.
 

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Lib Media Freaks Out Over Trump’s ‘Sound of Freedom’ Screening.
The Guardian newspaper has stepped up its attacks on the anti-child trafficking Sound of Freedom movie after former President Donald J. Trump screened the film for a select group at his Bedminster club on Wednesday.

The British newspaper led by describing Sound of Freedom as “a hit with Qanon devotees” – although in fact it has been a hit with moviegoers generally, beating Disney’s big-budget Indiana Jones movie when it debuted on July 4th and coming in second behind the latest installment of Mission: Impossible this past weekend.

Legacy media outlets have been at pains to link Sound of Freedom and its leading man, Jim Caviezel, to “Qanon conspiracy theories” centered on the Democratic Party, Satanism, and child sexual abuse, though The Guardian was forced to admit seven paragraphs into its hit piece that the movie, which was actually finished in 2018, is based on a true story.

Tim Ballard, who Caviezel portrays, really does head a trafficker-busting organization called Operation Underground Railroad, and a raid on a Colombian island where traffickers were holding large numbers of children, depicted in the movie, really happened.

https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/07/20/lib-media-freaks-out-over-trumps-sound-of-freedom-screening/
 

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It turns out that the safety of children is a very divisive political issue. QAnon, right wing conspiracists stand for the safety of children, while Mainstream Liberal media like Rolling Stone magazine, The Guardian, CNN, etc. think that protecting children is for brain addled people.


Media FREAKS OUT At Sound Of Freedom Success
 

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People saying the left as a whole are pro child trafficking or deny that it exist is a fallacy that people here and in conservative forums should stop pushing because it isn't true. There is an unfortunate minority of pedophile advocacy groups that have aligned themselves with liberal politics (a strong case of "a mind is so open that the brain has fallen out" in my opinion). I do think they turn a blind eye to it on the border because it doesn't fit their desired narrative and turn to whataboutisms like "but Trump..." Personally I don't think anyone hates the actual movie itself, and will support trying to stop human trafficking, but rather they hate how they feel the movie is being promoted. If you feel I'm wrong here, feel free to correct me but I noticed many conservative outlets will advertise certain information as "The left doesn't want you to know about this!" The left does this two with certain narratives in media so both sides scream propaganda when they feel threatened.
 

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One of the most respected movie critics/reviewers Jeremy Jahns on YouTube reviewed the movie on his channel, the only big YouTuber to do so and he said he liked it. Wasn't an amazing masterpiece but said he had fun and if you are able to see it, it's worth a viewing. It was as unbiased and straightforward of a review as can be so that is encouraging. He could have trashed it because right wing agenda or could have leaned very right and get in to the politics but he reviewed it as a normal movie, said what it was, questioned if things did happened as they did but needs more research but yeah. His review made me want to watch it.
 

ZNP

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People saying the left as a whole are pro child trafficking or deny that it exist is a fallacy that people here and in conservative forums should stop pushing because it isn't true. There is an unfortunate minority of pedophile advocacy groups that have aligned themselves with liberal politics (a strong case of "a mind is so open that the brain has fallen out" in my opinion). I do think they turn a blind eye to it on the border because it doesn't fit their desired narrative and turn to whataboutisms like "but Trump..." Personally I don't think anyone hates the actual movie itself, and will support trying to stop human trafficking, but rather they hate how they feel the movie is being promoted. If you feel I'm wrong here, feel free to correct me but I noticed many conservative outlets will advertise certain information as "The left doesn't want you to know about this!" The left does this two with certain narratives in media so both sides scream propaganda when they feel threatened.
I heard the advertising for this movie prior to the release on July 4th and there was nothing at all about they don't want you to hear this.

There was the back story of how the lead actor was blackballed after he starred in the Passion, but they weren't saying that there was any connection between that and this movie.

There was also the fact that Disney tried to keep this movie from being shown for the last five years. But no one was claiming this was "Democrats" they were claiming this was Disney.

However, when the movie came out the reviews from CNN, Politico, and RollingStone were insulting, not to the film, not to the director or the actors or the story, but to the audience. They were insulting people who went to see this movie. This was something I could never have even considered. Imagine mocking and insulting the people going to Barbie or Oppenheimer or Mission Impossible. How is that a movie review?

I will add I saw Oppenheimer and that movie will get terrible reviews compared to Sound of Freedom. It was a confusing mess. I was able to follow it, but my wife was lost.

The movie was weird it did not seem to be a biography of Oppenheimer, but it certainly focused on his shortcomings, it didn't seem to be about Los Alamos but that was certainly the centerpiece and what everyone remembers, no it seemed the focal point was on his not getting a security clearance later in life because he insulted some jerk in the government.
 

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People saying the left as a whole are pro child trafficking or deny that it exist is a fallacy that people here and in conservative forums should stop pushing because it isn't true. There is an unfortunate minority of pedophile advocacy groups that have aligned themselves with liberal politics (a strong case of "a mind is so open that the brain has fallen out" in my opinion). I do think they turn a blind eye to it on the border because it doesn't fit their desired narrative and turn to whataboutisms like "but Trump..." Personally I don't think anyone hates the actual movie itself, and will support trying to stop human trafficking, but rather they hate how they feel the movie is being promoted. If you feel I'm wrong here, feel free to correct me but I noticed many conservative outlets will advertise certain information as "The left doesn't want you to know about this!" The left does this two with certain narratives in media so both sides scream propaganda when they feel threatened.
I think what people are saying is that if you know a party is pushing a particular agenda, and it is harmful to people, and that harm will be caused if they are in power, even if you disagree with it, you have enabled it to happen. You can be against something and still contribute to it coming to pass. So it seems to those opposed to it that even if you say you oppose it, your actions help cause it.
 

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I think what people are saying is that if you know a party is pushing a particular agenda, and it is harmful to people, and that harm will be caused if they are in power, even if you disagree with it, you have enabled it to happen. You can be against something and still contribute to it coming to pass. So it seems to those opposed to it that even if you say you oppose it, your actions help cause it.
Or, judge them by their actions, not their words.
 

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The Rock Slams Mel Gibson for Leaking Oprah's Secrets in 'Sound of Freedom'
 

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Sound of Freedom Update | Biden Admin Responds | Angel Studios CEO Comments

 

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Woke Media PANICS As Sound Of Freedom SHATTERS Box Office Expectations, Says Nobody Is Watching

 

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International Crackdown: Dozens Arrested in Connection to Child Trafficking, Abuse Cases

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79 criminals have been arrested in connection to child sex abuse ring following the tragic deaths of 2 FBI agents.

In a sweeping operation spanning two years, US and Australian authorities announced on Tuesday the apprehension of 98 individuals involved in child sex abuse and trafficking crimes, coupled with the successful rescue of 13 children from potential harm.

The revelations come more than two years after the tragic murder of two dedicated FBI agents who were investigating an alleged international pedophile ring.

Convening in a news conference, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Australian Federal Police (AFP) divulged the fruits of their relentless collaboration.

A staggering 79 arrests, 65 indictments, and 43 convictions were executed on US soil, thanks to their coordinated efforts.

Simultaneously, a total of 19 men were apprehended in Australia as a direct result of the joint operation.

This comprehensive operation was launched following the horrific slaying of two FBI agents, Daniel Alfin and Laura Schwartzenberger, in February 2021.

The agents were on a mission to probe an alleged international pedophile network when they were shot dead in the line of duty while attempting to execute a search warrant at an apartment complex in Sunrise, Florida.

Their valiant efforts and ultimate sacrifice have brought justice to the forefront of their colleagues' and the world's attention.

Special Agents Alfin and Schwartzenberger were revered for their unwavering commitment to safeguarding children from the clutches of abuse.

Their work was instrumental in thwarting heinous acts against the vulnerable and educating the younger generation about the perils of sex crimes.

The tragedy of their loss, and the profound impact of their work, has sent shockwaves through the law enforcement community.

The deadly encounter that claimed the lives of these agents unfolded as they approached an apartment complex in Sunrise, Florida, armed with a federal search warrant.

Then a hail of gunfire erupted, leading to their demise.

Tragically, three additional agents sustained injuries during the altercation, with two of them subsequently receiving medical treatment and being discharged from the hospital.

The shooter, the prime suspect in the incident, met his own end at the scene, further compounding the already somber circumstances.

Reflecting on this deeply lamentable event, Miami FBI Special Agent in Charge George Piro lamented, “This incident marked a very dark day for the FBI.”

The loss of these distinguished agents and the magnitude of their contributions underscore the urgency of eradicating child exploitation and abuse.

It was the dedicated work of Agents Alfin and Schwartzenberger that ultimately led to the uncovering of an alleged international child abuse network.

Australian Federal Police Commander Helen Schneider remarked that this sinister “peer-to-peer network” was characterized by offenders who had engaged in these heinous activities for over a decade.

Disturbingly, some of the children involved were known to the perpetrators.

However, Schneider refrained from providing further details on this deeply unsettling matter.

Initiating in 2022, Australian authorities embarked on an exhaustive investigation after receiving critical information from the FBI regarding Australian members of this insidious trafficking network.

The investigation illuminated the deeply complex nature of the operation, as well as the necessity of international collaboration in tackling such threats.

Nitiana Mann, the FBI's legal attaché in Canberra, emphasized that the labyrinthine nature of these platforms necessitated a united front across nations and agencies.

She stated, “The complexity and anonymity of these platforms means that no agency or country can fight these threats alone.”

The Australian contingent of alleged offenders reportedly possessed advanced IT skills, allowing them to deftly navigate the virtual realm while engaging in their repugnant activities.

Utilizing software designed for anonymous file sharing and communication on message boards, these criminals employed encryption and other evasive techniques to remain hidden from law enforcement's watchful eye.

Australian Federal Police Commander Schneider illuminated that this network was nothing short of “sophisticated,” underscoring the dangerous lengths they went to evade detection.

Moreover, Schneider pointed out the gravity of the situation by stating, “Viewing, distributing, and producing child abuse material is a horrific crime, and the lengths that this network went to avoid detection is an indication of just how dangerous they were.”

She further articulated the dire consequences of letting such networks operate unchecked, emphasizing that their actions perpetuated the cycle of abuse.

Crucially, this operation has not reached its conclusion. Schneider stated unequivocally that the possibility of additional arrests remains a distinct possibility.

The international scope of the investigation, resulting in over 200 leads being shared with partner nations and the initiation of more than 300 investigations, underscores the vast extent of this deeply unsettling phenomenon.

In final retrospect, the tragic deaths of FBI Special Agents Daniel Alfin and Laura Schwartzenberger serve as a stark reminder of the atrocities that persist in the shadows of society.

Their dedication, valor, and commitment to shielding children from harm have paved the way for a relentless global effort to dismantle child exploitation networks and bring their perpetrators to justice.

Their memory will forever be intertwined with the quest for a safer world for all vulnerable members of society.
 

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I'm curious what are Christians thoughts on the movie Spotlight. I've seen comments like "Sound Of Freedom Champions were silent about Spotlight".
 

ZNP

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QAnon is a CIA op designed to discredit Q. These are not the same things and I am very certain that Caviezel is aware of that and has nothing to do with QAnon. I have no idea what Q rally is, never heard of such a thing. So he is most likely equating a MAGA rally with Q, and calling it QAnon. Either the talking head is a complete idiot and knows nothing (unlikely) or he is trying to confuse people. He will want them searching for QAnon on the internet, the CIA op.

But once again, none of this is referring to Democrats vs Republicans. QAnon is a CIA op, that is deep state. I suspect the majority of people, whether democrat or republican were unaware of the scope of this problem. Obviously everyone knows about Epstein island and knows it exists, but probably had no idea that it was 150 billion a year industry.

If you watch the movie, I have seen it twice, you wonder what has them so scared? This is essentially the movie "Taken" only without the gratuitous pictures of naked girls and also using a 17/18 year old victim instead of an 8-9 year old one.

The one thing that I think might be the issue is the fact that snatching lecherous perverts in their house is a lame approach to dealing with this whereas pretending to be a billionaire who wants to set up another Epstein Island, that is an effective way to rescue 50-100 kids and put 5 or 6 key players behind bars, and to get some serious whistleblowers flipping and becoming state witnesses.

This is not Democrats vs Republicans this is deep state working with Satanists vs people with a conscience.
 

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Is it a Christian movie?
No, it is the about human trafficking and exploitation of children and men of faith from the Catholic and Mormon Churches who go after them.