You would be surprised how much a truly Free-Market (It's actually Biblical) is a major portion of THE SOLUTION.
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You would be surprised how much a truly Free-Market (It's actually Biblical) is a major portion of THE SOLUTION.
Okay I'll clarify: This thread is about what WE, the small people, can do about any of the conspiracies surrounding us.
Come on Willie. Paisley actually pleasantly surprised me. Then PoxEclipse had a suggestion that was impractical in the modern day world, but he's trying to give some ideas about what we can do. This thread was going better than I hoped it would. Let's get off the arguing and get back to solutions.
We, the small people, vote. If we remove the controlling and coercing factions from the political arena, many of God's basic laws are free to work. And when we begin living by the mandates He gave us, just like His people of old, (before they rebelled), we will again begin to prosper.
But everything always leads to the same conclusion, everything. There needs to be more love than fear come out of people. Whether it's the solution to a personal problem, whether it's the solution to an addiction problem, whether it's the solution to a family problem, whether it's the solution to a workplace problem, whether it's the solution to a community problem, whether it's the solution to a country problem, whether it's the solution to an international problem.
Love unites, brings things together, fear fractures, and builds walls.
However neither are ever truly visible, but just an underlying intention of every word and action.
God is Love, Love is the Branch, which branches out into many things, forgiveness, compassion, etc. Bringing things together into one. Oneness. Atonement. Selflessness.
God is not Love 'and Fear'. It is the self identity which suffers this breaking away from the Branch of truth, the one truth, the singular truth. It breaks away into a duality of reality. It divides everything. It separates me from you, and us from them, and that from this.
If you ask yourself, why did someone say a particular thing, or respond in a particular way, and it does not bring peace, it is because it was not Love that was underlying. However people distort fear into being loving. No, you cannot have a loving fear, or a fearful love. There is only one 'real' love, every other version of love is created in the mind of man, and is not of God. And yet this is the world we all live in. Even those who are highly religious can be so unloving and call it love, and they instruct others with such confidence that it is love, when it is not.
The truth will set you free, because the truth is singular. Singular, lives in a perception that does not require conditions since it is a switched on reality which is completely different to what most of us experience as what reality consists of.
And what matters in what I said, is the substance of what I'm saying rather than the technicalities. Focusing on technicalities is part of the problem rather than the solution. I try to take the good from what someone says, even if I don't understand the rest. I try to take the good from what someone says, even if they say things I don't like or agree with.
Are we on a mission from God, and out of love, to make a real change together, to inspire each other deeply; or are we here out of boredom, or venting our hard life, or to gain a sense of superiority or righteousness upon another, or to not feel alone, which is on a mission from our Self, to suppress fears which we have and may not know we have, and yet will pretend we do not have (the online phenomenon of superficiality)?
Love unites, brings things together, fear fractures, and builds walls.
However neither are ever truly visible, but just an underlying intention of every word and action.
God is Love, Love is the Branch, which branches out into many things, forgiveness, compassion, etc. Bringing things together into one. Oneness. Atonement. Selflessness.
God is not Love 'and Fear'. It is the self identity which suffers this breaking away from the Branch of truth, the one truth, the singular truth. It breaks away into a duality of reality. It divides everything. It separates me from you, and us from them, and that from this.
If you ask yourself, why did someone say a particular thing, or respond in a particular way, and it does not bring peace, it is because it was not Love that was underlying. However people distort fear into being loving. No, you cannot have a loving fear, or a fearful love. There is only one 'real' love, every other version of love is created in the mind of man, and is not of God. And yet this is the world we all live in. Even those who are highly religious can be so unloving and call it love, and they instruct others with such confidence that it is love, when it is not.
The truth will set you free, because the truth is singular. Singular, lives in a perception that does not require conditions since it is a switched on reality which is completely different to what most of us experience as what reality consists of.
And what matters in what I said, is the substance of what I'm saying rather than the technicalities. Focusing on technicalities is part of the problem rather than the solution. I try to take the good from what someone says, even if I don't understand the rest. I try to take the good from what someone says, even if they say things I don't like or agree with.
Are we on a mission from God, and out of love, to make a real change together, to inspire each other deeply; or are we here out of boredom, or venting our hard life, or to gain a sense of superiority or righteousness upon another, or to not feel alone, which is on a mission from our Self, to suppress fears which we have and may not know we have, and yet will pretend we do not have (the online phenomenon of superficiality)?
AITW
Richard Proenneke went into the wild and built a cabin in the middle of no-mans-land (Twin Lakes, AK). He did this at 50 years old and lived alone there until 80 years old. There are plenty of areas / lands in which to live. There are plenty of people who would be happy to let you live on their land as well. There are Native American tribes who have already extended a hand of friendship to me. Unlike the wasichu, there are many tribes who don't believe in land ownership, but rather...a communal life.
Alone in the Wilderness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJKd0rkKss
Success in this type of endeavor really depends on how committed you are to the pioneer or N.A. lifestyle. Many, if not most, Native Americans are wasichu now. They have been bought off relatively inexpensively, and the N.A.'s that weren't were killed/persecuted/reprogrammed to the point of extinction of their culture.
New Hampshire has a motto (though it's more of a suggestion these days)..."Live Free Or Die." I like that motto. Part of the Global Non-Compliance model will include persecution and death. The establishment doesn't want freedom, it wants slaves. Two hundred years ago, we had a Revolutionary War (which by my understanding of accounts was a stalemate at best), then we had a Civil War, then WW1 and WW2, not to mention many wars in-between. If China's and other countries' organ harvesting practices are true, then any who do not serve The Crown will be harvested.
Do you want to live Alone In The Wilderness? Could you if you wanted to?
Most people that I've met have never grown their own vegetables, hunted/fished for meat, or even constructed their own dwelling. If their food did not come in a cardboard/styrofoam/plastic package, they would literally starve to death.
Their solution to living is being dependent on the establishment...and while being a slave themselves, they are simultaneously forcing others into bondage to pay for their welfare.
Ayn Rand wrote a book called 'Atlas Shrugged', there's an interesting speech by John Galt...I've never read the book but the three part movie was very inspiring and worth viewing in my opinion.
[video=youtube;zN6JV2GXyvg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN6JV2GXyvg[/video]
The question remains...are you content to be a slave, knowing that your taxes are helping to enslave and kill people?
Are you afraid to live free? You should be.
I've had my son kidnapped by the system for refusal to vaccinate, and also for home-schooling. Other parents have had their children kidnapped for off-grid related lifestyles. To have a police officer come to your home and leave with your child...you cannot imagine the pain and anxiety unless you've had it happen to you. If you have children, be prepared for this eventuality. The establishment will claim that you are neglecting your child, and with a pen stroke they will kidnap your child. Once you birth a child in a hospital and sign that birth certificate, THEY OWN YOUR CHILD.
If you view the Native American documentary'Red Cry', you'll see that the wasichu have already done this to thousands upon thousands of N.A. children. Some of their children were tortured, raped, abused, and some were killed and never seen again.
So, again, if you have children or want to have children, off-grid living is a very serious matter to consider...however, if you truly love your child, off-grid really is the only option. I wish I was off-grid when my son was born...the system would never have known about him. I had to voluntarily poison my child to get him back and I still hate myself for it, though they would have kept my child and vaccinated anyway if I didn't voluntarily agree. And yes, parents have had their children kidnapped, and then given the children chemotherapy instead of holistic cancer cures (which are far more effective and less traumatic to the body), based on a doctor's recommendation/report of medical neglect.
I've read a few comments from various people on CC who say that people who don't vaccinate their children are this or that...well, those are the types of people who will try and kidnap your children, thinking they are doing something good...or knowing it's bad, they'll go along with orders, just to keep their comfortable jobs.
Just for a second...imagine being forced to inject mercury and formaldehyde (and who knows what else) into your own child's veins. I still feel guilty for agreeing to it. I hate them (and myself) for what they made me do to regain custody of my own child.
The sad thing is...the people who kidnapped my son believed that what they were doing was right. That's the level of brainwashing/conditioning that many social workers and police have. They really believe they have the right to kidnap other people's children!
Though in a different context...the following is very true...
John 16:2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.
Unfortunately death is one of the few freedoms we have, and I often think about that escape from this living hell...sometimes daily. I would really rather die than be a slave and help the system hurt others, and I'll probably be forced to make that choice in the near future. The only reason I still continue living (barely existing) is to try and be a light to others. There aren't enough candles to light the darkness as it is. Every candle is important, though quite possibly...futile.
Either the people unite, or the people resign themselves to be branded and butchered like cattle. The people are so addicted to their cell-phones and techno-gadgets that they'll never unite as one.
The only solution I see that does not include being a slave (and by default...hurting other people) is being...Alone In The Wilderness...
There are many who are already living this lifestyle. It's not impossible, it's just that certain aspects can be very inconvenient and not what you're used to.
If you're serious, and you know nothing about living off of the land, consider a survival school like Sigma 3. I am not affiliated with them, nor have I studied with them, however, I have learned a few things about survival from watching their videos.
If you don't have canvas/oil cloth for a tipi, this is something you can build yourself for free. Look into their trapping and fish basket videos also.
Survival Shelters Ultimate Wikiup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g78H4si8ZpU
I have a question for anyone who would like to answer...if you had a child and were confronted with forced vaccinations, knowing their potentially harmful side effects, would you take your child into the wilds and try and hack it off-grid, or would you take your child to the doctor, inject your child, and hope for the best?
Just think, this is our society today...where a group of legislators (read pharmaceutical corporation lackeys) can sign their name on a piece of paper, thereby obligating other people to inject children with known toxins?
This is not freedom, this is a living death...it's a hellish nightmare from which you can never wake...and from what I have gleaned from my studies, it's been this way since the beginning of written history.
Jeremiah 9:2 Oh, that I had in the desert a lodging place for travelers, so that I might leave my people and go away from them; for they are all adulterers, a crowd of unfaithful people.
Peace.
Richard Proenneke went into the wild and built a cabin in the middle of no-mans-land (Twin Lakes, AK). He did this at 50 years old and lived alone there until 80 years old. There are plenty of areas / lands in which to live. There are plenty of people who would be happy to let you live on their land as well. There are Native American tribes who have already extended a hand of friendship to me. Unlike the wasichu, there are many tribes who don't believe in land ownership, but rather...a communal life.
Alone in the Wilderness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJKd0rkKss
Success in this type of endeavor really depends on how committed you are to the pioneer or N.A. lifestyle. Many, if not most, Native Americans are wasichu now. They have been bought off relatively inexpensively, and the N.A.'s that weren't were killed/persecuted/reprogrammed to the point of extinction of their culture.
New Hampshire has a motto (though it's more of a suggestion these days)..."Live Free Or Die." I like that motto. Part of the Global Non-Compliance model will include persecution and death. The establishment doesn't want freedom, it wants slaves. Two hundred years ago, we had a Revolutionary War (which by my understanding of accounts was a stalemate at best), then we had a Civil War, then WW1 and WW2, not to mention many wars in-between. If China's and other countries' organ harvesting practices are true, then any who do not serve The Crown will be harvested.
Do you want to live Alone In The Wilderness? Could you if you wanted to?
Most people that I've met have never grown their own vegetables, hunted/fished for meat, or even constructed their own dwelling. If their food did not come in a cardboard/styrofoam/plastic package, they would literally starve to death.
Their solution to living is being dependent on the establishment...and while being a slave themselves, they are simultaneously forcing others into bondage to pay for their welfare.
Ayn Rand wrote a book called 'Atlas Shrugged', there's an interesting speech by John Galt...I've never read the book but the three part movie was very inspiring and worth viewing in my opinion.
[video=youtube;zN6JV2GXyvg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN6JV2GXyvg[/video]
The question remains...are you content to be a slave, knowing that your taxes are helping to enslave and kill people?
Are you afraid to live free? You should be.
I've had my son kidnapped by the system for refusal to vaccinate, and also for home-schooling. Other parents have had their children kidnapped for off-grid related lifestyles. To have a police officer come to your home and leave with your child...you cannot imagine the pain and anxiety unless you've had it happen to you. If you have children, be prepared for this eventuality. The establishment will claim that you are neglecting your child, and with a pen stroke they will kidnap your child. Once you birth a child in a hospital and sign that birth certificate, THEY OWN YOUR CHILD.
If you view the Native American documentary'Red Cry', you'll see that the wasichu have already done this to thousands upon thousands of N.A. children. Some of their children were tortured, raped, abused, and some were killed and never seen again.
So, again, if you have children or want to have children, off-grid living is a very serious matter to consider...however, if you truly love your child, off-grid really is the only option. I wish I was off-grid when my son was born...the system would never have known about him. I had to voluntarily poison my child to get him back and I still hate myself for it, though they would have kept my child and vaccinated anyway if I didn't voluntarily agree. And yes, parents have had their children kidnapped, and then given the children chemotherapy instead of holistic cancer cures (which are far more effective and less traumatic to the body), based on a doctor's recommendation/report of medical neglect.
I've read a few comments from various people on CC who say that people who don't vaccinate their children are this or that...well, those are the types of people who will try and kidnap your children, thinking they are doing something good...or knowing it's bad, they'll go along with orders, just to keep their comfortable jobs.
Just for a second...imagine being forced to inject mercury and formaldehyde (and who knows what else) into your own child's veins. I still feel guilty for agreeing to it. I hate them (and myself) for what they made me do to regain custody of my own child.
The sad thing is...the people who kidnapped my son believed that what they were doing was right. That's the level of brainwashing/conditioning that many social workers and police have. They really believe they have the right to kidnap other people's children!
Though in a different context...the following is very true...
John 16:2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.
Unfortunately death is one of the few freedoms we have, and I often think about that escape from this living hell...sometimes daily. I would really rather die than be a slave and help the system hurt others, and I'll probably be forced to make that choice in the near future. The only reason I still continue living (barely existing) is to try and be a light to others. There aren't enough candles to light the darkness as it is. Every candle is important, though quite possibly...futile.
Either the people unite, or the people resign themselves to be branded and butchered like cattle. The people are so addicted to their cell-phones and techno-gadgets that they'll never unite as one.
The only solution I see that does not include being a slave (and by default...hurting other people) is being...Alone In The Wilderness...
There are many who are already living this lifestyle. It's not impossible, it's just that certain aspects can be very inconvenient and not what you're used to.
If you're serious, and you know nothing about living off of the land, consider a survival school like Sigma 3. I am not affiliated with them, nor have I studied with them, however, I have learned a few things about survival from watching their videos.
If you don't have canvas/oil cloth for a tipi, this is something you can build yourself for free. Look into their trapping and fish basket videos also.
Survival Shelters Ultimate Wikiup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g78H4si8ZpU
I have a question for anyone who would like to answer...if you had a child and were confronted with forced vaccinations, knowing their potentially harmful side effects, would you take your child into the wilds and try and hack it off-grid, or would you take your child to the doctor, inject your child, and hope for the best?
Just think, this is our society today...where a group of legislators (read pharmaceutical corporation lackeys) can sign their name on a piece of paper, thereby obligating other people to inject children with known toxins?
This is not freedom, this is a living death...it's a hellish nightmare from which you can never wake...and from what I have gleaned from my studies, it's been this way since the beginning of written history.
Jeremiah 9:2 Oh, that I had in the desert a lodging place for travelers, so that I might leave my people and go away from them; for they are all adulterers, a crowd of unfaithful people.
Peace.
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PoxEclipse, let's stick to the thread topic. Long conspiracy screeds fit nicely in some other threads and there sure are enough threads to fit them in.
The topic of this thread is what can normal people do about all these conspiracies?
And thank you for elaborating on the nomadic lifestyle. But here in the USA all the land is owned by somebody. You might spend half your life on a patch of ground somebody else owns without him knowing about it, but the land IS owned by somebody. And if we start a commune in the middle of "no-man's land" it WILL attract attention and the authorities WILL come in and bust up the party.
If you know of any other countries that have any land not owned by anybody (besides Australia, and who could survive in the wilds of Australia with every critter trying to kill you?) please let us know.
The topic of this thread is what can normal people do about all these conspiracies?
And thank you for elaborating on the nomadic lifestyle. But here in the USA all the land is owned by somebody. You might spend half your life on a patch of ground somebody else owns without him knowing about it, but the land IS owned by somebody. And if we start a commune in the middle of "no-man's land" it WILL attract attention and the authorities WILL come in and bust up the party.
If you know of any other countries that have any land not owned by anybody (besides Australia, and who could survive in the wilds of Australia with every critter trying to kill you?) please let us know.
Flee?
What to do about it...educate people.
9/11...
When people realize that there are no terrorists (except TPTB), there won't be any cause to fund a military, that money can be spent on housing, infrastructure, food, and real health care.
Moon landing...
When people realize that NASA has been scamming them for years, there won't be any more billion dollar appropriations for a Mars landing show.
Flat Earth...
When people realize that Antarctica is the edge of the world, they will push for exploration in Antarctica to find out what is really out there. And if there is a dome, there are scientific investigative opportunities galore! What is the dome made of? What structures are supporting the dome...etc.
If there's a dome, there may be doorways. And who or what is beyond the gates? Enoch mentions 12 gates...and it's possible that there is land beyond Antarctica, if the world is in fact flat. (1000 year old Buddhist map image below)
The problem remains...brainwashing/conditioning from an early age by TPTB, and of course...the apathy of the population to want a better life. TPTB are turning everyone into zombies with TV, anti-depressants, fluoride, and chemtrails.
Aside from educating people, and hoping they listen, I don't see any solution beyond fleeing into the wilderness and living off of the land as best you can.
2 Corinthians 6:17 Therefore, "Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you."
Peace.
What to do about it...educate people.
9/11...
When people realize that there are no terrorists (except TPTB), there won't be any cause to fund a military, that money can be spent on housing, infrastructure, food, and real health care.
Moon landing...
When people realize that NASA has been scamming them for years, there won't be any more billion dollar appropriations for a Mars landing show.
Flat Earth...
When people realize that Antarctica is the edge of the world, they will push for exploration in Antarctica to find out what is really out there. And if there is a dome, there are scientific investigative opportunities galore! What is the dome made of? What structures are supporting the dome...etc.
If there's a dome, there may be doorways. And who or what is beyond the gates? Enoch mentions 12 gates...and it's possible that there is land beyond Antarctica, if the world is in fact flat. (1000 year old Buddhist map image below)
The problem remains...brainwashing/conditioning from an early age by TPTB, and of course...the apathy of the population to want a better life. TPTB are turning everyone into zombies with TV, anti-depressants, fluoride, and chemtrails.
Aside from educating people, and hoping they listen, I don't see any solution beyond fleeing into the wilderness and living off of the land as best you can.
2 Corinthians 6:17 Therefore, "Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you."
Peace.
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You cannot understand markets very well. Market theory works when supply and demand are
represented properly in a market without it being rigged. This is only possible when you stop
corruption and distortions coming in. Once a market is rigged and people realise this, the market
collapses and fails to fulfil it role.
This is why insider trading is banned, or major market manipulations. If this is beyond you to
grasp, the other considerations are pointless, because they will not make sense.
What has happened in the late 20th century is free market economics have taken over everything,
and the wealth, health and well being has increased. God bless you.
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There can be no real solution as long as the absolute majority of a / any / the population is unwilling to open their eyes and / to see the true nature of the reality of the world they live in.
For as long as people believe that huge out-of-control governments are their "friend", there will be no solution.
The only answer that exists today will be for groups of people who are willing to start their own community somewhere that is off-the-grid of the world-domination system.
Any solution that may be had at all begins with knowledge -- knowledge about the true nature of the reality of the world you live in.
If you have seen the movie THE MATRIX -- then, you have seen the best most accurate modern depiction of the truth of the reality of the world you live in. You can take the blue pill or the red pill -- the choice is yours. The red pill leads to life and freedom. The blue pill keeps you trapped in the endless downward-spiral into the depths of the black hole that is the New World Order.
Would you like to know WHY they will succeed in their plans for a New World Order?
Because YOU are not willing to believe that it can possibly be true. Because YOU are too comfortable in your government-induced "fake reality" to care enough to make a real difference. ( Like the guy in the movie THE MATRIX who would rather enjoy a good [ fake ] steak - and betray all of humanity - than to accept the reality he finds himself in and do his best to help free humanity from slavery. ) Because YOU have swallowed the propaganda - "hook, line, and sinker" - that the government should control every aspect of your life. Because YOU are too short-sighted to realize and understand the major significance of the "hidden" things in this world -- the works of Satan - evil shrouded in a veil of darkness. Because YOU are too busy expending all of your energy on the worthless issues-of-the-day that "they" want you to focus on - while they turn the world into a police-state-existance for the masses.
Are you getting the picture, yet?
Everyone wants everyone else to do the hard work. And, THAT is what keeps the slave-system going and growing...
But, the number one most significant reason why nothing ever changes ( except for the steady exponential increase of evil in the world ) -- "lack of knowledge"...!
There is a solution that actually exists. The question is -- are you willing to do "the hard work" to implement that solution?
It all starts with understanding -- understanding the true nature of the reality of the world you live in.
Because - "I promise you" - it is nothing like what you think!
Satan has lied to you in every possible way all of your life. And, you don't think it is even possible.
SMH
Have you read any scripture lately???
Ephesians 6:
[SUP]10[/SUP] Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. [SUP]11[/SUP] Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. [SUP]12[/SUP] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. [SUP]13[/SUP] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [SUP]14[/SUP] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [SUP]15[/SUP] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [SUP]16[/SUP] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [SUP]17[/SUP] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: [SUP]18[/SUP] Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
Do you REALLY understand what this passage is saying?
WHY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND IT ???
WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT ???
WAKE UP SLEEPING CHRISTIANS !!!
The solution begins with this:
Proverbs 1:
[SUP]7[/SUP] The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Proverbs 3:
[SUP]6[/SUP] In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
Proverbs 10:
[SUP]14[/SUP] Wise men lay up knowledge: but the mouth of the foolish is near destruction.
Proverbs 11:
[SUP]9[/SUP] An hypocrite with his mouth destroyeth his neighbour: but through knowledge shall the just be delivered.
Proverbs 14:
[SUP]6[/SUP] A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth.
Proverbs 15:
[SUP]2[/SUP] The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.
Proverbs 15:
[SUP]7[/SUP] The lips of the wise disperse knowledge: but the heart of the foolish doeth not so.
Proverbs 15:
[SUP]14[/SUP] The heart of him that hath understanding seeketh knowledge: but the mouth of fools feedeth on foolishness.
Proverbs 18:
[SUP]15[/SUP] The heart of the prudent getteth knowledge; and the ear of the wise seeketh knowledge.
Proverbs 23:
[SUP]12[/SUP] Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge.
Galatians 5:
[SUP]1[/SUP] Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Timothy 1:
[SUP]7[/SUP] For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
1 John 4:
[SUP]18[/SUP] There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
'Liberty in Christ' is the most powerful thing you can possess in these end times. STOP being afraid!
STOP being part of the problem and START being part of the solution! Let the Love of Christ prevail!
Not selfishness. Not greed. Not lust. Not indifference. Not apathy. Not fear. Not the cares of this world.
It may very well be that what God wants you to do is to [ simply ] be where you are and do what you are doing. I have nothing to say against it. Be a witness - where you are - to those around you. Let the Love of Christ shine forth...
However, if you have a "flippant" attitude towards those who are trying to help you understand the true nature of the reality of the world you live in -- you are part of the problem. You are "stuck deep in the MATRIX" - living in a dream world. You have no understanding of what should be or what can be. Nor do you realize that neither of those are what is. You only know that which your illuminati masters have spoon-fed you all of your life.
For as long as people believe that huge out-of-control governments are their "friend", there will be no solution.
The only answer that exists today will be for groups of people who are willing to start their own community somewhere that is off-the-grid of the world-domination system.
Any solution that may be had at all begins with knowledge -- knowledge about the true nature of the reality of the world you live in.
If you have seen the movie THE MATRIX -- then, you have seen the best most accurate modern depiction of the truth of the reality of the world you live in. You can take the blue pill or the red pill -- the choice is yours. The red pill leads to life and freedom. The blue pill keeps you trapped in the endless downward-spiral into the depths of the black hole that is the New World Order.
Would you like to know WHY they will succeed in their plans for a New World Order?
Because YOU are not willing to believe that it can possibly be true. Because YOU are too comfortable in your government-induced "fake reality" to care enough to make a real difference. ( Like the guy in the movie THE MATRIX who would rather enjoy a good [ fake ] steak - and betray all of humanity - than to accept the reality he finds himself in and do his best to help free humanity from slavery. ) Because YOU have swallowed the propaganda - "hook, line, and sinker" - that the government should control every aspect of your life. Because YOU are too short-sighted to realize and understand the major significance of the "hidden" things in this world -- the works of Satan - evil shrouded in a veil of darkness. Because YOU are too busy expending all of your energy on the worthless issues-of-the-day that "they" want you to focus on - while they turn the world into a police-state-existance for the masses.
Are you getting the picture, yet?
Everyone wants everyone else to do the hard work. And, THAT is what keeps the slave-system going and growing...
But, the number one most significant reason why nothing ever changes ( except for the steady exponential increase of evil in the world ) -- "lack of knowledge"...!
There is a solution that actually exists. The question is -- are you willing to do "the hard work" to implement that solution?
It all starts with understanding -- understanding the true nature of the reality of the world you live in.
Because - "I promise you" - it is nothing like what you think!
Satan has lied to you in every possible way all of your life. And, you don't think it is even possible.
SMHHave you read any scripture lately???
Ephesians 6:
[SUP]10[/SUP] Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. [SUP]11[/SUP] Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. [SUP]12[/SUP] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. [SUP]13[/SUP] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [SUP]14[/SUP] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [SUP]15[/SUP] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [SUP]16[/SUP] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [SUP]17[/SUP] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: [SUP]18[/SUP] Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
Do you REALLY understand what this passage is saying?
WHY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND IT ???
WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT ???
WAKE UP SLEEPING CHRISTIANS !!!
The solution begins with this:
Proverbs 1:
[SUP]7[/SUP] The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Proverbs 3:
[SUP]6[/SUP] In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
Proverbs 10:
[SUP]14[/SUP] Wise men lay up knowledge: but the mouth of the foolish is near destruction.
Proverbs 11:
[SUP]9[/SUP] An hypocrite with his mouth destroyeth his neighbour: but through knowledge shall the just be delivered.
Proverbs 14:
[SUP]6[/SUP] A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth.
Proverbs 15:
[SUP]2[/SUP] The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.
Proverbs 15:
[SUP]7[/SUP] The lips of the wise disperse knowledge: but the heart of the foolish doeth not so.
Proverbs 15:
[SUP]14[/SUP] The heart of him that hath understanding seeketh knowledge: but the mouth of fools feedeth on foolishness.
Proverbs 18:
[SUP]15[/SUP] The heart of the prudent getteth knowledge; and the ear of the wise seeketh knowledge.
Proverbs 23:
[SUP]12[/SUP] Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge.
Galatians 5:
[SUP]1[/SUP] Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Timothy 1:
[SUP]7[/SUP] For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
1 John 4:
[SUP]18[/SUP] There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
'Liberty in Christ' is the most powerful thing you can possess in these end times. STOP being afraid!
STOP being part of the problem and START being part of the solution! Let the Love of Christ prevail!
Not selfishness. Not greed. Not lust. Not indifference. Not apathy. Not fear. Not the cares of this world.
It may very well be that what God wants you to do is to [ simply ] be where you are and do what you are doing. I have nothing to say against it. Be a witness - where you are - to those around you. Let the Love of Christ shine forth...
However, if you have a "flippant" attitude towards those who are trying to help you understand the true nature of the reality of the world you live in -- you are part of the problem. You are "stuck deep in the MATRIX" - living in a dream world. You have no understanding of what should be or what can be. Nor do you realize that neither of those are what is. You only know that which your illuminati masters have spoon-fed you all of your life.
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GaryA
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Needless to say, the real answer - and the real solution - is Christ.
And, there is not going to be a real solution until Jesus comes back.
Why?
Because the masses are too focused on the little red dot on the wall to notice who is holding the laser pen-light. Like the cat, they follow the little red dot wherever it goes - chasing after it -- never realizing the game that is being played on them at their expense. Intrigued by the little red dot, the cat never rationalizes what the little red dot is and why it moves as it does. And, if you try to tell the cat what is going on -- the cat will deny the possibility of it - and, soon the cat is intrigued by the little red dot once again...
And, there is not going to be a real solution until Jesus comes back.
Why?
Because the masses are too focused on the little red dot on the wall to notice who is holding the laser pen-light. Like the cat, they follow the little red dot wherever it goes - chasing after it -- never realizing the game that is being played on them at their expense. Intrigued by the little red dot, the cat never rationalizes what the little red dot is and why it moves as it does. And, if you try to tell the cat what is going on -- the cat will deny the possibility of it - and, soon the cat is intrigued by the little red dot once again...
As a small sanity check
In the 70's - 80's we thought the end of the world was going to happen and we would
literally starve to death, because with current agricultural methods not enough food was being
created. There was then an agricultural revolution and efficiency and production capacity changed.
This means 7 billion people can be fed.
Our population will reach 10 billion in 40 years.
The only way we will survive is if we organise and structure how we grow and distibute
all our resources. We are too many not to be an integrated society, where we trust each
other and work together. We already do this through shops, supermarkets, international trading,
education, international travel.
And it all works because of integrity and righteousness. People deliver what they claim they
can deliver and we can trust them. Wake up to the world you already rely on, get your food,
shelter and sustenance from. Praise the Lord that we live in these times, because it is
brilliant the level of care and support now available.
If you truly know the Lord, you should admire what His gospel has done, how love has worked
through billions of people to bring us to this place.
If you think this is slavery, how is it people are overweight, indulgent in entertainment and leisure,
with freedoms to travel anywhere. This is freedom, not slavery, though it shows that many are
slaves to sin and not righteousness.
In the 70's - 80's we thought the end of the world was going to happen and we would
literally starve to death, because with current agricultural methods not enough food was being
created. There was then an agricultural revolution and efficiency and production capacity changed.
This means 7 billion people can be fed.
Our population will reach 10 billion in 40 years.
The only way we will survive is if we organise and structure how we grow and distibute
all our resources. We are too many not to be an integrated society, where we trust each
other and work together. We already do this through shops, supermarkets, international trading,
education, international travel.
And it all works because of integrity and righteousness. People deliver what they claim they
can deliver and we can trust them. Wake up to the world you already rely on, get your food,
shelter and sustenance from. Praise the Lord that we live in these times, because it is
brilliant the level of care and support now available.
If you truly know the Lord, you should admire what His gospel has done, how love has worked
through billions of people to bring us to this place.
If you think this is slavery, how is it people are overweight, indulgent in entertainment and leisure,
with freedoms to travel anywhere. This is freedom, not slavery, though it shows that many are
slaves to sin and not righteousness.
GaryA: You have given a prime example of why I started this thread. Unfortunately you have not answered the question. All you have given is more "YOU SHEEPLE NEED TO WAKE UP!" rhetoric.
If there is conspiracy all around us, what are we supposed to do about it?
If there is conspiracy all around us, what are we supposed to do about it?
[video=youtube;c3CjF-fwz4w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3CjF-fwz4w[/video]
8 min video about a change in paradigm.
So now that I have a bit more time to compose a reply...
GaryA this thread was created for two reasons. First, I would like to know what course of action conspiracy theorists would recommend, should they ever get around to actually telling us what we can do about these conspiracies. Second, this thread was meant to prove or disprove a theory. (For the record, this theory was already disproved right near the start of the thread.)
The theory goes something like this:
A: Conspiracy theorists don't really care about the conspiracies, at least not enough to DO anything about them. They just like yelling about them.
B. Conspiracy theorists never provide solutions, things normal people can actually do about the conspiracies, because that would crimp the whole yelling thing.
C. Conspiracy theorists enjoy the smug, superior feeling that comes from "I know something you don't know." They also seem to really get off on calling other people idiots, much the same way people in some churches really like to put other denominations down.
Congratulations GaryA! In one post you proved every part of this theory!
Fortunately Paisley got here first and actually gave some helpful suggestions, thereby DISPROVING this whole theory. So we now know not all conspiracy theorists are alike. There are some like you, and some like him.
By the way, this is not the end of the thread. I would still like to hear some solutions. Being a nomad is impractical, but the other suggestions so far contributed have been spot-on.
Speaking of solutions, how practical is home solar power these days? Are there better power storage options than li-ion currently? I know lifepo4 batteries are more stable, but they have less energy density.
GaryA this thread was created for two reasons. First, I would like to know what course of action conspiracy theorists would recommend, should they ever get around to actually telling us what we can do about these conspiracies. Second, this thread was meant to prove or disprove a theory. (For the record, this theory was already disproved right near the start of the thread.)
The theory goes something like this:
A: Conspiracy theorists don't really care about the conspiracies, at least not enough to DO anything about them. They just like yelling about them.
B. Conspiracy theorists never provide solutions, things normal people can actually do about the conspiracies, because that would crimp the whole yelling thing.
C. Conspiracy theorists enjoy the smug, superior feeling that comes from "I know something you don't know." They also seem to really get off on calling other people idiots, much the same way people in some churches really like to put other denominations down.
Congratulations GaryA! In one post you proved every part of this theory!
Fortunately Paisley got here first and actually gave some helpful suggestions, thereby DISPROVING this whole theory. So we now know not all conspiracy theorists are alike. There are some like you, and some like him.
By the way, this is not the end of the thread. I would still like to hear some solutions. Being a nomad is impractical, but the other suggestions so far contributed have been spot-on.
Speaking of solutions, how practical is home solar power these days? Are there better power storage options than li-ion currently? I know lifepo4 batteries are more stable, but they have less energy density.
T
toinena
Guest
I have a Goal Zero Yeti 1250. It can be charged by plugging it into the wall, by solar panel and by car. It is quiet and I keep it plugged in all the time. I have two... Also a smaller yeti 400. Works brilliantly.
Love Or Vanity?
Very well spoken GaryA! I applaud your efforts (and Paisley_buddie's) on your posts! If I may contribute a few verses?
In our efforts to educate and bring the light of truth to the masses, we're often blinded by our own zeal. I am continually guilty of this.
Matthew 7:6 "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
Matthew 13:14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: "'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
John 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Acts 28:26 "'Go to this people and say, "You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving."
Romans 11:8 as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that could not see and ears that could not hear, to this very day."
2 Peter 2:22 Of them the proverbs are true: "A dog returns to its vomit," and, "A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud."
Deuteronomy 29:4 But to this day the LORD has not given you a mind that understands or eyes that see or ears that hear.
Jeremiah 5:21 Hear this, you foolish and senseless people, who have eyes but do not see, who have ears but do not hear:
Isaiah 6:10 Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed."
Ezekiel 12:2 "Son of man, you are living among a rebellious people. They have eyes to see but do not see and ears to hear but do not hear, for they are a rebellious people.
Proverbs 9:7 Whoever corrects a mocker invites insults; whoever rebukes the wicked incurs abuse.
Proverbs 9:8 Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you.
Proverbs 14:7 Stay away from a fool, for you will not find knowledge on their lips.
Proverbs 19:2 Desire without knowledge is not good-- how much more will hasty feet miss the way!
Proverbs 23:9 Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words.
Proverbs 26:4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.
Proverbs 26:12 Do you see a person wise in their own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for them.
Proverbs 29:20 Do you see someone who speaks in haste? There is more hope for a fool than for them.
And the converse...
John 5:22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son,
John 9:39 Jesus said, "For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind."
John 9:41 Jesus said, "If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.
Am I kicking a dead horse (sheep) here? Why do I bother?
Matthew 18:12 "What do you think? If a man owns a hundred sheep, and one of them wanders away, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the hills and go to look for the one that wandered off?
Matthew 18:13 And if he finds it, truly I tell you, he is happier about that one sheep than about the ninety-nine that did not wander off.
Matthew 18:14 In the same way your Father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should perish.
Why do any of us bother?
1 Corinthians 13:6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
2 John 1:4 It has given me great joy to find some of your children walking in the truth, just as the Father commanded us.
3 John 1:3 It gave me great joy when some believers came and testified about your faithfulness to the truth, telling how you continue to walk in it.
3 John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children are walking in the truth.
LOVE?
Or is it all just an extension of...
Ecclesiastes 2:14 The wise have eyes in their heads, while the fool walks in the darkness; but I came to realize that the same fate overtakes them both.
Ecclesiastes 2:16 For the wise, like the fool, will not be long remembered; the days have already come when both have been forgotten. Like the fool, the wise too must die!
Ecclesiastes 2:17 So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.
Ecclesiastes 4:2 And I declared that the dead, who had already died, are happier than the living, who are still alive.
Ecclesiastes 4:3 But better than both is the one who has never been born, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun.
Sometimes I wonder...
Job 3:11 "Why did I not perish at birth, and die as I came from the womb?
Job 3:20 "Why is light given to those in misery, and life to the bitter of soul,
Jeremiah 19:9 I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another's flesh because their enemies will press the siege so hard against them to destroy them.'
Jeremiah 20:17 For he did not kill me in the womb, with my mother as my grave, her womb enlarged forever.
Jeremiah 20:18 Why did I ever come out of the womb to see trouble and sorrow and to end my days in shame?
Deuteronomy 28:53 Because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you.
Leviticus 26:29 You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters.
Isaiah 9:20 On the right they will devour, but still be hungry; on the left they will eat, but not be satisfied. Each will feed on the flesh of their own offspring:
Luke 23:29 For the time will come when you will say, 'Blessed are the childless women, the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed!'
Matthew 24:19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!
If it doesn't matter if we live or die as long as we're living in Christ, why is there a commandment (or is it more of a suggestion) to flee?
Luke 17:31 On that day no one who is on the housetop, with possessions inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything.
Luke 21:21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city.
So, on the topic of solutions...does anyone have a solution aside from 'be separate and come out from among them' and 'flee'? If Luke speaks about the razing of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 as some theorize, what has really changed in the last 2,000 years? Are we doomed to become cannibals again and eat our own offspring, as it's spoken of in Deu/Lev/Jer/Isa?
Does anyone really have faith in humanity considering our HIStory? Based on my non-canonical/canonized scripture calculations, Christ is not going to be returning for some time (not in our lifetime). If anyone has a more conclusive time-line of Christ's return, I would love to read it (canonized or not).
There is a time-line of when Christ will return within these writings...the question is (more often than not), can you believe what is written?
http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/80241-930-5-500-10-000-1-000-a.html
Tipi's are beginning to sound more and more appealing to me.
Peace.
Very well spoken GaryA! I applaud your efforts (and Paisley_buddie's) on your posts! If I may contribute a few verses?
In our efforts to educate and bring the light of truth to the masses, we're often blinded by our own zeal. I am continually guilty of this.
Matthew 7:6 "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
Matthew 13:14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: "'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
John 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Acts 28:26 "'Go to this people and say, "You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving."
Romans 11:8 as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that could not see and ears that could not hear, to this very day."
2 Peter 2:22 Of them the proverbs are true: "A dog returns to its vomit," and, "A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud."
Deuteronomy 29:4 But to this day the LORD has not given you a mind that understands or eyes that see or ears that hear.
Jeremiah 5:21 Hear this, you foolish and senseless people, who have eyes but do not see, who have ears but do not hear:
Isaiah 6:10 Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed."
Ezekiel 12:2 "Son of man, you are living among a rebellious people. They have eyes to see but do not see and ears to hear but do not hear, for they are a rebellious people.
Proverbs 9:7 Whoever corrects a mocker invites insults; whoever rebukes the wicked incurs abuse.
Proverbs 9:8 Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you.
Proverbs 14:7 Stay away from a fool, for you will not find knowledge on their lips.
Proverbs 19:2 Desire without knowledge is not good-- how much more will hasty feet miss the way!
Proverbs 23:9 Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words.
Proverbs 26:4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.
Proverbs 26:12 Do you see a person wise in their own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for them.
Proverbs 29:20 Do you see someone who speaks in haste? There is more hope for a fool than for them.
And the converse...
John 5:22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son,
John 9:39 Jesus said, "For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind."
John 9:41 Jesus said, "If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.
Am I kicking a dead horse (sheep) here? Why do I bother?
Matthew 18:12 "What do you think? If a man owns a hundred sheep, and one of them wanders away, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the hills and go to look for the one that wandered off?
Matthew 18:13 And if he finds it, truly I tell you, he is happier about that one sheep than about the ninety-nine that did not wander off.
Matthew 18:14 In the same way your Father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should perish.
Why do any of us bother?
1 Corinthians 13:6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
2 John 1:4 It has given me great joy to find some of your children walking in the truth, just as the Father commanded us.
3 John 1:3 It gave me great joy when some believers came and testified about your faithfulness to the truth, telling how you continue to walk in it.
3 John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children are walking in the truth.
LOVE?
Or is it all just an extension of...
Ecclesiastes 2:14 The wise have eyes in their heads, while the fool walks in the darkness; but I came to realize that the same fate overtakes them both.
Ecclesiastes 2:16 For the wise, like the fool, will not be long remembered; the days have already come when both have been forgotten. Like the fool, the wise too must die!
Ecclesiastes 2:17 So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.
Ecclesiastes 4:2 And I declared that the dead, who had already died, are happier than the living, who are still alive.
Ecclesiastes 4:3 But better than both is the one who has never been born, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun.
Sometimes I wonder...
Job 3:11 "Why did I not perish at birth, and die as I came from the womb?
Job 3:20 "Why is light given to those in misery, and life to the bitter of soul,
Jeremiah 19:9 I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another's flesh because their enemies will press the siege so hard against them to destroy them.'
Jeremiah 20:17 For he did not kill me in the womb, with my mother as my grave, her womb enlarged forever.
Jeremiah 20:18 Why did I ever come out of the womb to see trouble and sorrow and to end my days in shame?
Deuteronomy 28:53 Because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you.
Leviticus 26:29 You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters.
Isaiah 9:20 On the right they will devour, but still be hungry; on the left they will eat, but not be satisfied. Each will feed on the flesh of their own offspring:
Luke 23:29 For the time will come when you will say, 'Blessed are the childless women, the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed!'
Matthew 24:19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!
If it doesn't matter if we live or die as long as we're living in Christ, why is there a commandment (or is it more of a suggestion) to flee?
Luke 17:31 On that day no one who is on the housetop, with possessions inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything.
Luke 21:21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city.
So, on the topic of solutions...does anyone have a solution aside from 'be separate and come out from among them' and 'flee'? If Luke speaks about the razing of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 as some theorize, what has really changed in the last 2,000 years? Are we doomed to become cannibals again and eat our own offspring, as it's spoken of in Deu/Lev/Jer/Isa?
Does anyone really have faith in humanity considering our HIStory? Based on my non-canonical/canonized scripture calculations, Christ is not going to be returning for some time (not in our lifetime). If anyone has a more conclusive time-line of Christ's return, I would love to read it (canonized or not).
There is a time-line of when Christ will return within these writings...the question is (more often than not), can you believe what is written?
http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/80241-930-5-500-10-000-1-000-a.html
Tipi's are beginning to sound more and more appealing to me.
Peace.
GaryA this thread was created for two reasons. First, I would like to know what course of action conspiracy theorists would recommend, should they ever get around to actually telling us what we can do about these conspiracies. Second, this thread was meant to prove or disprove a theory. (For the record, this theory was already disproved right near the start of the thread.)
The theory goes something like this:
A: Conspiracy theorists don't really care about the conspiracies, at least not enough to DO anything about them. They just like yelling about them.
B. Conspiracy theorists never provide solutions, things normal people can actually do about the conspiracies, because that would crimp the whole yelling thing.
C. Conspiracy theorists enjoy the smug, superior feeling that comes from "I know something you don't know." They also seem to really get off on calling other people idiots, much the same way people in some churches really like to put other denominations down.
Congratulations GaryA! In one post you proved every part of this theory!
The problem with calling folk sheeple is that you are no better than the elites who look down on all people as cattle.
Love your fellow man even though they might shout at you "you conspiracy nut" I know pre 2009 I would have shouted the same thing at someone saying 9/11 was a inside job.
As with the video I posted alot of folk who are truthers are in stage 3 (bargaining) trying to wake up stage 1 (denial) and this just is in most cases defeat the object of constructive conversation.
what is needed is stage 5 (acceptance) folk being asked by stage 1 (denial) why the change in their demeanor? I've woken up my brother and 2 friends by this approach.
not just the unawake I have encountered a problem alot of flat earthers who are aware of the banking cartel can't get past the idea that flat earth is a psy-op designed to split and discredit the truth movement. that flat earth isnt high up in the priority list when a totalitarian government is starting to take root. Your government is slowly taking away freedoms under the guise of temporary security aka slow kill 1984. Kind of makes the thought of flat earth a secondary concern at best.
NiFe
Most solar systems are going to be very expensive (kw/h per dollar). If you have thousands of dollars to spend on a home solar system, I'd recommend the Iron Edison NiFe batteries. It depends on your usage, longevity, and price requirements. If all you need is 10 years of battery life, there are Lion offerings that will give you more kw/h per dollar than the NiFe's. NiFe's are what I would buy. Saltwater batteries are greener than lead-acid but you'll pay a premium and you won't get much of a benefit per dollar over lead-acid.
Wind generators can be had for as little as $1,000 dollars and will provide more kw/h per dollar than solar.
A combination solar/wind generation would be optimal.
I hope this helps.
Peace.
Most solar systems are going to be very expensive (kw/h per dollar). If you have thousands of dollars to spend on a home solar system, I'd recommend the Iron Edison NiFe batteries. It depends on your usage, longevity, and price requirements. If all you need is 10 years of battery life, there are Lion offerings that will give you more kw/h per dollar than the NiFe's. NiFe's are what I would buy. Saltwater batteries are greener than lead-acid but you'll pay a premium and you won't get much of a benefit per dollar over lead-acid.
Wind generators can be had for as little as $1,000 dollars and will provide more kw/h per dollar than solar.
A combination solar/wind generation would be optimal.
I hope this helps.
Peace.
G
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Admittedly, post #29 was - in part - a bit of a rant. However, it was not my intent to insult or belittle anyone. My intent was to illustrate the fact that no solution can be had unless [ enough of ] the masses are properly informed - and they understand - what is really going on in our world. And, like in the movie THE MATRIX, the masses - being 'ignorant' of the truth - would rather "stay plugged into the MATRIX" rather than know - and act on - the truth.