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I never said God's convent never changed.
It was established on better promises Heb 8:6 not better laws, because you can't make something perfect, more perfect Psa 19:7
God is the one enabling us to keep His commandment's- they went from external to internal with Him the one doing John 14:15-18 though our love and cooperation
It was established on better promises Heb 8:6 not better laws, because you can't make something perfect, more perfect Psa 19:7
God is the one enabling us to keep His commandment's- they went from external to internal with Him the one doing John 14:15-18 though our love and cooperation
Once again I provide a slew of verses in HB 7:11-10:1 in which the Lord explains that the OC/Law, outside or inside the ark, is made obsolete by the NC/ Gospel of Christ:
"If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood, why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also... The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless, for the law made nothing perfect, and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. Such a high priest truly meets our need... the Son, who has been made perfect forever, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven... The ministry of Jesus has received is superior to the old one [of Moses], since the NC is established on better promises... God said, 'The days are coming when I will make a new covenant' [JR 31:31-34]. It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts... By calling this covenant 'new', he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."
I can write out the rest of that passage if you want more verses, although I had hoped GW would not need to say more.
"If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood, why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also... The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless, for the law made nothing perfect, and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. Such a high priest truly meets our need... the Son, who has been made perfect forever, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven... The ministry of Jesus has received is superior to the old one [of Moses], since the NC is established on better promises... God said, 'The days are coming when I will make a new covenant' [JR 31:31-34]. It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts... By calling this covenant 'new', he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."
I can write out the rest of that passage if you want more verses, although I had hoped GW would not need to say more.
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You don't understand covenants.
You don't have a covenant with first having promises. You build a covenant on the promises. They are like a foundation onto which the covenant is made.
Except when Christ gave us a New Commandment? I mean, that's adding to it, right.
The old commandment was "Love as much as you are able."
The new commandment is "Love like I (God) love."
Maybe Christ is not God to you?
You don't have a covenant with first having promises. You build a covenant on the promises. They are like a foundation onto which the covenant is made.
Except when Christ gave us a New Commandment? I mean, that's adding to it, right.
The old commandment was "Love as much as you are able."
The new commandment is "Love like I (God) love."
Maybe Christ is not God to you?
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I would suggest you speak for yourself.
We are told God's law is perfect. Psa 19:7 If you think our perfect Savior could personally write an imperfect law, well that's something you will need to take up with Him.
There is no where we are told that Jesus is limited to not giving new commandments or in doing so that changes anything else He commands of us.
We are told God's law is perfect. Psa 19:7 If you think our perfect Savior could personally write an imperfect law, well that's something you will need to take up with Him.
There is no where we are told that Jesus is limited to not giving new commandments or in doing so that changes anything else He commands of us.
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At least is not tragic for us.
Exodus 20:8
Remember that thou keep holy the sabbath day.
1 Peter 1:16
Because it is written: You shall be holy, for I am holy.
Matthew 26:24
The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man shall be betrayed: it were better for him, if that man had not been born.
Exodus 20:8
Remember that thou keep holy the sabbath day.
1 Peter 1:16
Because it is written: You shall be holy, for I am holy.
Matthew 26:24
The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man shall be betrayed: it were better for him, if that man had not been born.
Actually as paul said, even the gentiles, who do not have the law. by nature obey it. The law has been in our DNA since God created us, we were created in his image.
Why did you not answer the question. what are the ministry of death written in stone?
It is Holy Just and right.
But unless you keep every jot and tittle. You have failed to keep the law.
and if your tryng to get right with God by keeping the law. You have failed to understand the purpose of the law.
As jesus said, be ye perfect as your father in heaven is perfect.
if your going to get to God by the law. thats the requirement.
The law was not given to tell you how to behave, it was given to expose how you have not and are not obeying.. to expose your sin.
if you or anyone else, including me, look at the law and think we are ok. we are decieved and in serious danger. because we have failed to understand the law
Why did you not answer the question. what are the ministry of death written in stone?
It is Holy Just and right.
But unless you keep every jot and tittle. You have failed to keep the law.
and if your tryng to get right with God by keeping the law. You have failed to understand the purpose of the law.
As jesus said, be ye perfect as your father in heaven is perfect.
if your going to get to God by the law. thats the requirement.
The law was not given to tell you how to behave, it was given to expose how you have not and are not obeying.. to expose your sin.
if you or anyone else, including me, look at the law and think we are ok. we are decieved and in serious danger. because we have failed to understand the law
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There is definitely a difference between "us and them" here.
You know them by their fruits.
When we,"us", repeatedly post scripture in proper context for New Covenant Jesus followers and the opponents keep repeating their same false arguments against us AND scripture, it is tragic.
Because theirs is a premeditated assault on all Jesus followers here. People of The Way,as we were first known,only to be identified later in Antioch as Christians much later.
And God is watching.
They don't believe that.
How do we know that's true?
Because we also believe what God said about them. They will answer for every word they used to condemn,denigrate,mock,ridicule,lie,about his word.
That's not just tragic. That's their destiny. Unless God changes their mind and heart. They don't believe that either.
What is prophecy but God's message as what God has predestined.
You know them by their fruits.
When we,"us", repeatedly post scripture in proper context for New Covenant Jesus followers and the opponents keep repeating their same false arguments against us AND scripture, it is tragic.
Because theirs is a premeditated assault on all Jesus followers here. People of The Way,as we were first known,only to be identified later in Antioch as Christians much later.
And God is watching.
They don't believe that.
How do we know that's true?
Because we also believe what God said about them. They will answer for every word they used to condemn,denigrate,mock,ridicule,lie,about his word.
That's not just tragic. That's their destiny. Unless God changes their mind and heart. They don't believe that either.
What is prophecy but God's message as what God has predestined.
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