the Sabbath
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I don't read anyone telling others they are lawless for not honoring God's Sabbath day gift. What we do read though are those who insist those who honor the Sabbath day gift are wrong.
And some do so by insisting Christian "Sabbatarians" are to live lawlessly. Which is why "obeying the Sabbath law" is wrong. Because the law doesn't pertain to Christians.
This is the thing. It is true. We are all one in Christ. Because Christs Holy Spirit inside us all makes us one with him.
And given God's Sabbath,as Jesus said,was made for man there is nothing at all wrong with honoring the gift God made for man.
What's done away? The divisiveness that claims something of God's is for Jews only.
Why?
Because there are no Jews in Christ. No Greeks,no Gentiles.
Not if you give me some sources. One would think with such a preponderance of sources, you could easily scare some up for me.
BTW...good to see you again @MerSee.
You mistakenly think you are the only one who doesn't worship on the Sabbath.
I don't believe this at all. Most everyone I know doesn't worship on the 7th day. No mistake here.
If by Sabbath you mean Saturday, no. If you mean rest, I would say all the Christians I know worship in the assurance of the Sabbath.
I was always told that most Christians assemble for worship on either Saturday or Sunday.
Do most Christians you know worship on the Sabbath, yes or no?
t 22:37-40 [37] Jesus said unto him, 'Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. [38] This is the first and great commandment. [39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. [40] On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets'.
Wrong for insisting we are breaking the law/being disobedient if we don't join them in their law observance.
I've already told you...no, if you are talking about Saturday. The church I attend meets on Sunday and Wednesday each week.
If you stick around you may find out...
Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Mat_24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Luk 13:14 And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people, There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day.
Luk 13:15 The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering? 16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?
Being a hypocrite ment that they were not practicing what they were preaching, The sabbath was not the issue it was how they were upholding it or teaching people to keep it.. If the sabbath was not important then there would not have been a right standard to make them hypocrites.
Act_13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Act_13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Act_17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
Act_18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
The command comes when you read verses like ....
Rom 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jas 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
Jas 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Praise the Lord... The seventh day sabbath is a delight and i praise God for this wonderful gift.
Praise the Lord... The seventh day sabbath is a delight and i praise God for this wonderful gift.
there is only one God
the God of the Bible
That is not a command.
That is not a command.
There is no commandment there.
No it doesn't. Nor is it written on my heart like one used to say the 613 mitzvot were. God's 7th day rest has always pointed forward to the rest from works for salvation we find in Jesus Christ, Who is our Passover Lamb, slain from before the foundation of the world and before God took a break from creating which you think means something it does not.
Why would a Christian condemn it when other Christians honor Gods Sabbath gift?
It isn''t just on Sabbath that Christ is known. so the grace of God is not limited in any way. The Sabbath is a window that allows me to put down the labours and trials that are normally a burden to focus all the more on Christ. The relationship we have with Christ everyday is individual (between Christ and ourselves), and taking time every 7th day sabbath does not take away from my weekly relationship, it sometimes requires faith but God always makes it a blessing.
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